Neville confirms what we knew all along

[#07]

Maybe because our little stars, brands, divas are too valuable, too marketabe, too important, to get rid of. Players know that very well, hence they behave the way they do.
Or, another reason maybe is, our wonderfull BBC (British Boys Club as I call them) at the top of the club don't want to boot players out of the club cause of the fear of backlash from media, social media, players PR, fanboys...
Thinking about it, people at the Club do not have balls. So the players follow.

Nail on the head.

We've made our bed. We've puffed this lot up like stuffed pigs. Now we want to be the ones to eat at the table, not pass them on to someone else who can use them to sell wine, tech and all sorts of other s-t. As a result the inmates are running the asylum.

The players know they can afford to be garbage, there will be no consequences for them. They pull in the results that the club's leadership is really interested in: Sponsorships. Having or not having Ralf Rangnick at the club isn't going to decide whether we can find a new tractor sponsor. So if everything goes to pot the coach will be out and they will still be there. They've been through enough of these boom and bust cycles to know the coach's fate depends on them, not the other way around.

It all goes back to Fergie. The manager has to be the most important man in the dressing room. As soon as he's not he's done. Since Sir Alex retired the manager of Man Utd hasn't been anywhere near the most important person at the dressing room, or the club. The players can phone it in for next few months. As long as they have huge social media followings the club can monetize there won't be any consequences for them.

This is Man Utd today and we've just gotta get used to it.

 

[Lentwood]

Again, why does every list I see just include all of our English players?

Do we honestly believe that Maguire, for example, is leaking to the press? Why on Earth would the club captain, who starts every week, be leaking to the press? That is just utterly bonkers. I get some people have a problem with him (for some reason) but come on, let's be realistic for just a second.

Lingard, OK, would maybe make sense. Has basically been kept at the club under false pretences. Same could be said of Dean Henderson.

However, I don't often see the name 'Ronaldo' mentioned...yet Ronaldo has had his issues with Rangnick already, has been dropped recently and has been criticised by Rangnick in the past (pre joining Utd) Now, I am not saying it is Ronaldo (I actually don't think it is) but makes more sense than Maguire!

Likewise...Paul Pogba! Again, surely got to be high on any list of suspects....again, not saying it IS Pogba, but seems more likely than Maguire, or even Shaw or Rashford for that matter

 

[Adisa]

Pure guess work.

Yeah, why I put "feel".

 

[romufc]

Do we honestly believe that Maguire, for example, is leaking to the press? Why on Earth would the club captain, who starts every week, be leaking to the press? That is just utterly bonkers. I get some people have a problem with him (for some reason) but come on, let's be realistic for just a second.

It is quite clear, it fuels fans agenda. Dislike player = leaking to the press.

 

[2 man midfield]

Ole’s British core have betrayed him. We were supposed to be forgoing their actual footballing talent because of their good character. That went well.

 

[Real Name]

Why is Gary protecting them if he is so disgusted, so adamant, so convinced these people are causing detriment to the club? Gary seems to have a lot to say without really putting himself out there, which is disappointing.

Yes, one week he's criticizing only players who are not English, the other he's saying someone is leaking the lineup without naming.

 

[Abraxas]

To be honest I find Neville more annoying than the idea he is putting forward.

Mainly because it does nobody any good at all to be endlessly speculating on who these people are with no possibility for it to become public knowledge and therefore uncovering the leak and making it less viable.

Is this statement from him for the club's benefit or Gary's as a pundit and media presence I wonder?

 

[Superunknown]

Somebody needs to take everyone at the club, line them all up, and then run down the line with a gigantic hand and slap every single one of them.

 

[GlasgowCeltic]

Again, why does every list I see just include all of our English players?

Do we honestly believe that Maguire, for example, is leaking to the press? Why on Earth would the club captain, who starts every week, be leaking to the press? That is just utterly bonkers. I get some people have a problem with him (for some reason) but come on, let's be realistic for just a second.

Lingard, OK, would maybe make sense. Has basically been kept at the club under false pretences. Same could be said of Dean Henderson.

However, I don't often see the name 'Ronaldo' mentioned...yet Ronaldo has had his issues with Rangnick already, has been dropped recently and has been criticised by Rangnick in the past (pre joining Utd) Now, I am not saying it is Ronaldo (I actually don't think it is) but makes more sense than Maguire!

Likewise...Paul Pogba! Again, surely got to be high on any list of suspects....again, not saying it IS Pogba, but seems more likely than Maguire, or even Shaw or Rashford for that matter

If Pogba had things to say Raiola would've let us know about it, doesn't seem more likely than Shaw and Rashford at all

 

[V.O.]

Somebody needs to take everyone at the club, line them all up, and then run down the line with a gigantic hand and slap every single one of them.

It's more efficient if you get them to come to you really.

 

[AFC NimbleThumb]

I’m always getting onto posters being ITK so my opinion is it’ll be mostly coming the English contingent. The press & the FA are on perhaps the friendliest terms ever with puff pieces about Southgate & his crew abundant.

Trouble is, it’s not a particularly happy squad in general so if I were Bailly for example I would be averse to sounding off.

Somebody needs to take everyone at the club, line them all up, and then run down the line with a gigantic hand and slap every single one of them.

Yes. 1000 times yes!

 

[SirReginald]

If Pogba had things to say Raiola would've let us know about it, doesn't seem more likely than Shaw and Rashford at all

Fair point on Pogba but he will always be suspected as he was even too toxic for Mourinho and that man can be cancerous.

Honestly it’s kind of sad that you guys can list so many potential suspects. That dressing room needs fixing asap.

 

[Superunknown]

It's more efficient if you get them to come to you really.

One fan should be allowed to do this to the team after a poor performance.

 

[Bebestation]

I'm going to purely guess it's Bailly because it involves Villareal in the Europa Final.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ex...real-Europa-League-final-team-news-leaked/amp



Literally being English these days and having United fans blame everything on them with every chance they get is just yuk.

 

[McGrathsipan]

All of them? Ok so sell them all?

Other than DDG and Sancho there isnt one of them I would be sad to see leave.
Call it mad or deluded or whatever you like but I am sick of them

 

[GiddyUp]

He knows nothing about the players who are using the media but it's an easy speculation to make , I very much doubt the Journalists who are getting these so called scoops would be discussing the names with likes of Neville or for that matter any body why would they to be honest it doesn't make any sense.

We are talking about the British football press here. They have been known to talk absolute nonsensical shit about clubs, all made up and based on the catering that club provides for media events. These people are in a lot of cases narcissistic cnuts, you can see that on social media when someone disagrees with them.

 

[The Urban Goose]

So on the Liverpool fall-from-grace blueprint we've just got rid of Roy Evans but we have a spice-boys problem. It's lucky we haven't reached an FA Cup final recently otherwise the white suits would be out.

So we're about 20 years away from winning the title again. I look forward to our Euro Cup win in 2031, however.

 

[shaky]

Mentioning that he knows there are certain people causing trouble, without mentioning names, is just stirring up more of the exact needless drama that he's claiming to be rallying against. Name names or keep quiet Gary.

 

[AFC NimbleThumb]

If Pogba had things to say Raiola would've let us know about it, doesn't seem more likely than Shaw and Rashford at all

Exactly but it doesn’t quite fit the narrative. That along with the couple of times where Pogba has outed press stories as false on Social Media make Pogba a rather unlikely candidate here.

He knows he’s off in a few months, I doubt at this point he cares how good/bad Ralf is.

Likewise...Paul Pogba! Again, surely got to be high on any list of suspects....again, not saying it IS Pogba, but seems more likely than Maguire, or even Shaw or Rashford for that matter

 

[GiddyUp]

It wouldn't be Pogba cause he doesnt like the British press anyway.

If you actually look at the stories that have come out, Lingard and Rashford are prime candidates.

Lingard's team mates believe he should start? hmmm I wonder who would say this
All the talk about different training methods - team selections, only one player now that doesn't play.

Its pretty obvious Lingard is up there.

They are my two picks. I think Maguire has more respect for the position he is in despite his personal performances to talk petty shit like this. Shaw looks like he couldn't be arsed picking up the phone. I would love for the next manager to cash in on Rashford or at the very least drag him out of the clouds and get him back to basics.

 

[goptun]

What an attention whore “I know who they are, but I’m not telling!”… then why say at all?

Go back to whining about UK Government and retweeting Salford City stuff.

Don't be an arse. His and Rashford's work in holding this disgrace of a government to account is some of the only positive stuff associated with the club at the moment.

 

[Handsome Devil]

One day there will be a good book about this, but by then nobody may care anymore.

 

[Adisa]

Yes, one week he's criticizing only players who are not English, the other he's saying someone is leaking the lineup without naming.

If someone tells you something in confidence, I feel you should honour that.

 

[Withnail]

Other than DDG and Sancho there isnt one of them I would be sad to see leave.
Call it mad or deluded or whatever you like but I am sick of them

Yeah sorry it's a bit hysterical for me. A few will go in the Summer, the rest will likely fall in line if we get a proper long-term manager in.

 

[JPRouve]

Neville essentially creates a public mess and feeds negativity around the club. That's nice.

 

[gica_7]

It wouldn't be Pogba cause he doesnt like the British press anyway.

If you actually look at the stories that have come out, Lingard and Rashford are prime candidates.

Lingard's team mates believe he should start? hmmm I wonder who would say this
All the talk about different training methods - team selections, only one player now that doesn't play.

Its pretty obvious Lingard is up there.

It may not have to be him, but his agent might be. We have a bunch of players that love to protect their images and leaks could be coming from anybody but it's not silly to think Pogba might be one of them.

 

[Jeppers7]

Nevilles been a cause of distraction around the club for years. He creates problems himself. With regards to ‘this never happened in my day’ I think Wayne Rooney leaked a few things to the press over the years and the same group (Rio,Evra,Vidic etc) that Neville played with laid the groundwork for the current group in the Moyes LVG era.

 

[goptun]

Neville essentially creates a public mess and feeds negativity around the club. That's nice.

He's not saying anything we don't already know. All he's done is redirect public attention on the leaker/s, which I'm rather happy about. It has been going on for fecking ages and undoubtedly added to the depressing feck pie that is Man Utd at the moment.

 

[Jeppers7]

People can’t wait to blame Pogba despite zero evidence.

 

[red4ever 79]

Yeah sorry it's a bit hysterical for me. A few will go in the Summer, the rest will likely fall in line if we get a proper long-term manager in.

Will be a good clear out in the summer
Out of contract
Pogba, Mata, Cavani, Lingard

Wants out
Henderson, Martial

 

[Classical Mechanic]

Nevilles been a cause of distraction around the club for years. He creates problems himself. With regards to ‘this never happened in my day’ I think Wayne Rooney leaked a few things to the press over the years and the same group (Rio,Evra,Vidic etc) that Neville played with laid the groundwork for the current group in the Moyes LVG era.

The Rio, Vidic, Evra axis seriously undermined Moyes's whole tenure.

 

[Hansi Fick]

Neville essentially creates a public mess and feeds negativity around the club. That's nice.

The "whingebags" comment a few months back were very influential in that they created or propagated an enormously negative narrative, with massive implications how the fans view their team and its players. When really it only jumped onto a couple of gestures of disappointment by Ronaldo and Fernandes whose body language is always like that.

This "podacst" rant today is nothing if not an incoherent, confused, toxic mess of diffuse paranoia, boomerist cultural pessimism, hyperbolic moralism and anonymous denunciations ("I'm not saying who, but they're at it"), opening the door to unhinged speculation.

The guy, as likeable as he might be, is not level-headed or smart enough to be counted as an analyst; he could have a YT channel alright, but as the main guy on Sky he is becoming a problem for the club.

 

[red4ever 79]

People can’t wait to blame Pogba despite zero evidence.

Well we know its not Pogba leaking team news, guy wasnt even in the squad for 2-3 months and the leaks were coming out. We know who the shady ones are

 

[Real Name]

If someone tells you something in confidence, I fell you should honour that.

I bet he doesnt know a thing.

 

[Real Name]

Neville essentially creates a public mess and feeds negativity around the club. That's nice.

This.

Nevilles been a cause of distraction around the club for years. He creates problems himself. With regards to ‘this never happened in my day’ I think Wayne Rooney leaked a few things to the press over the years and the same group (Rio,Evra,Vidic etc) that Neville played with laid the groundwork for the current group in the Moyes LVG era.

And also this.

The "whingebags" comment a few months back were very influential in that they created or propagated an enormously negative narrative, with massive implications how the fans view their team and its players. When really it only jumped onto a couple of gestures of disappointment by Ronaldo and Fernandes whose body language is always like that.

This "podacst" rant today is nothing if not an incoherent, confused, toxic mess of diffuse paranoia, boomerist cultural pessimism, hyperbolic moralism and anonymous denunciations ("I'm not saying who, but they're at it"), opening the door to unhinged speculation.

The guy, as likeable as he might be, is not level-headed or smart enough to be counted as an analyst; he could have a YT channel alright, but as the main guy on Sky he is becoming a problem for the club.

And this is the best one. Sums it all up.

He's gladly giving meat to the media which they'll gob on for weeks. Thats great Gary, really great.

All this does it creates speculation and fans arguing about who's at fault. If it's such a problem and maybe it is he shouldnt have put it in public in that way. And its not the first time either, he sure likes to hear his own voice.

Also its sad how many people think its Rashford. Many of them dont like him so it was a perfect opportunity to pin it on him of course without any evidence cause there isnt one.

 

[Reditus]

Why is Gary protecting them if he is so disgusted, so adamant, so convinced these people are causing detriment to the club? Gary seems to have a lot to say without really putting himself out there, which is disappointing.

protecting the journalist who told him I imagine

 

[The holy trinity 68]

It's like rappers who sneak diss with subliminals, if you aren't gonna say names don't talk shit as it casts a guessing net over a certain set of players, especially when you use the term brands.

Like when Nas released The Message, 2Pac confronted Nas thinking the diss was aimed at him, when it was actually aimed at Biggie and Jay Z. All because the lines on the song were vague.

 

[tyunited]

Need to get rid of these players they ain't good enough as we can clearly see.

 

[romufc]

It may not have to be him, but his agent might be. We have a bunch of players that love to protect their images and leaks could be coming from anybody but it's not silly to think Pogba might be one of them.

Lets be honest, if Pogba's agent wanted to, he doesn't need to leak it to journalists, he actually has a pair and will come out and say it himself. We have seen this in the past. So no, I don't believe Pogba is one.

 

[Judas]

Idiotic stuff to say if you’re not going to name names. Don’t mind Neville but this is bloody daft of him.