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Find it rather hard to believe that it would be "unexpected" to encounter resistance at the capital city of a country you've declared war on and invadedTweet
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Find it rather hard to believe that it would be "unexpected" to encounter resistance at the capital city of a country you've declared war on and invadedTweet
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Yep but there’s still degrees of how fecked Russia can be. If they back down eventually and keep it a normal war, then I still bet things will get better in a few years time. If they just raid Kyiv like that it will be remembered forever and they will be marginalized for a very long time. But I might be wrong.It's all gone a bit beyond that, hasn't it?
There's no guarantees with verified accounts either.Follow the right accounts and you only get the stuff that is either verified, geolocated or posted by somebody who has a reputation for posting authentic footage.
Any NATO country attacked would trigger article 5.Is it guaranteed that the NATO countries would interfere if Putin were to attack a NATO country threatening with nuclear weapons if anyone attacks russia?
Yes please.Kinzinger advocating for a NATO NFZ over Ukraine on CNN now.
You see it incorrectly, Vida. Don't take any criticism of India to heart re its abstention at the UN. They voted pragmatically and abstaining is not the same as voting against a resolution.India's neigbhours are china and pakistan, both have nukes and both have territorial claims over Indian territory and both have previously fought wars over it against India.
Russia has helped India previously while at times the west has acted against us. Russia continues to supply us with military hardware without which we'd be nowhere in the short term if china and pakistan decide to take advantage.
As i see it the west too has to share the blame for this useless and needless war. What was the need for nato to stoke the flames and try to get ukraine into the fold when everyone knows it would antagonize the russians ? Of course every soverign country should have a right to do whatever it wants but we dont live in an ideal world. If china placed nukes in sri lanka India would be antagonized and if India placed nukes in taiwan/vietnam then china would be mobilizing its military and so would the west if putin decided to place nukes in mexico/cuba etc.
This was a needless war stoked by old men in suits trying to feck with each other. No side is blameless here.
Until the death of Putin / Revolution at least.That would come back at a huge cost for Russia for many years to come, wouldn’t it?
Biden saying the” US will defend every inch of NATO controlled territory”Is it guaranteed that the NATO countries would interfere if Putin were to attack a NATO country threatening with nuclear weapons if anyone attacks russia?
But the West don't have any nukes in Ukraine, no? If the missiles in Turkey are the problem why isn't Putin invading Turkey? Otherwise the closest ones to Russia in Germany and Italy.India's neigbhours are china and pakistan, both have nukes and both have territorial claims over Indian territory and both have previously fought wars over it against India.
Russia has helped India previously while at times the west has acted against us. Russia continues to supply us with military hardware without which we'd be nowhere in the short term if china and pakistan decide to take advantage.
As i see it the west too has to share the blame for this useless and needless war. What was the need for nato to stoke the flames and try to get ukraine into the fold when everyone knows it would antagonize the russians ? Of course every soverign country should have a right to do whatever it wants but we dont live in an ideal world. If china placed nukes in sri lanka India would be antagonized and if India placed nukes in taiwan/vietnam then china would be mobilizing its military and so would the west if putin decided to place nukes in mexico/cuba etc.
This was a needless war stoked by old men in suits trying to feck with each other. No side is blameless here.
I don't use tiktok but read there is a viral vid with over 10 million views claiming to be from yesterday in Ukraine but in fact was a conflict zone from 2016.There's no guarantees with verified accounts either.
We can only get to know the general trends from social media, we'll only know the actual specifics after its over.
What I think we may see is some REW (jamming) deployed by NATO.I wouldn’t be surprised if we’re about to see the Americans launch fighters in the area to intervene and maintain a neutral air superiority. They won’t attack Russian forces but it’ll certainly hurt Russia’s ability to take control of the air space.
The last sentence possibly hitting the point as Ukraine has airfields and presumably water based territory, and id the closest you'll get to Moscow without being on Russian or Russian friendly territory (Belarus)But the West don't have any nukes in Ukraine, no? If the missiles in Turkey are the problem why isn't Putin invading Turkey? Otherwise the closest ones to Russia in Germany and Italy.
Though I imagine the actual closest ones are in submarines and airplanes.
Ukrainian ambassador characterizes the Russian ambassador’s speech as an application for an upscale seat in hell.
I get that the smaller countries might want to join but that doesn't change the fact that the leading western countries don't know whats going to go down if they induct them.You see it incorrectly, Vida. Don't take any criticism of India to heart re its abstention at the UN. They voted pragmatically and abstaining is not the same as voting against a resolution.
NATO is a defensive alliance and no threat to Russia unless Russia attacks a NATO member country. Ask yourself why former Warsaw Pact countries have been clamouring to be a part of NATO since the collapse of the Soviet Union and maybe your perspective will change.
That's an incredibly tone-deaf way of describing what's going on here.This was a needless war stoked by old men in suits trying to feck with each other. No side is blameless here.
The invasion itself is on Putin and Putin alone.India's neigbhours are china and pakistan, both have nukes and both have territorial claims over Indian territory and both have previously fought wars over it against India.
Russia has helped India previously while at times the west has acted against us. Russia continues to supply us with military hardware without which we'd be nowhere in the short term if china and pakistan decide to take advantage.
As i see it the west too has to share the blame for this useless and needless war. What was the need for nato to stoke the flames and try to get ukraine into the fold when everyone knows it would antagonize the russians ? Of course every soverign country should have a right to do whatever it wants but we dont live in an ideal world. If china placed nukes in sri lanka India would be antagonized and if India placed nukes in taiwan/vietnam then china would be mobilizing its military and so would the west if putin decided to place nukes in mexico/cuba etc.
This was a needless war stoked by old men in suits trying to feck with each other. No side is blameless here.
Russia is not able to offer a guarantee that it won't invade its non-NATO neighbours.I get that the smaller countries might want to join but that doesn't change the fact that the leading western countries don't know whats going to go down.
Why doesn't nato, russia and these smaller countries in between both of them sign agreements that they won't join nato if russia guarantees it won't invade them ? Russia wants a buffer between them and nato so i dont think they'll mind this arrangement. Imo there should be a buffer between countries having huge militaries and nukes. You (nato) shouldn't want a land border with russia because any small border misunderstanding could kick off a war where nukes are lobbed, trust me when i say this because we (India) are surrounded on two sides with hostile countries with nukes and every year we have skirmishes and exchange of artillery. You dont want that shit on an annual basis.
I'm sorry but I take offense to this. Sadly, the US and UK had a habit of royally screwing India during the Cold War (and before that too, obviously). Let's not forget Nixon and the Blood Telegram which led to an Indo-Pak war where US threatened intervention against India and the Soviet Union of all people stepped in to provide deterrence.Countries true colours are certainly coming out during this.
India and Russia have a history during previous wars which to an extent can be described as Russia literally saving India's ass from the rest of the world including China, US, Europe etc.Why did India abstain?
If there is no give and take then one side has to be utterly defeated.Russia is not able to offer a guarantee that it won't invade its non-NATO neighbours.
NATO offers collective security from invasion, that's why these countries want in.
So what you’re saying is….they are showing their true coloursI'm sorry but I take offense to this. Sadly, the US and UK had a habit of royally screwing India during the Cold War (and before that too, obviously). Let's not forget Nixon and the Blood Telegram which led to an Indo-Pak war where US threatened intervention against India and the Soviet Union of all people stepped in to provide deterrence.
Do Indians in India agree with Russia's actions? Of course not but the economic and defense ties are too intertwined at the moment to risk Russian retaliation nor economic setback that could affect the ability to support the millions of impoverished people.
In time this will probably change as the US proves itself willing to be a more reliable partner to India to counter China.
And any Russian plane downed in a no fly zone would trigger a thermonuclear war.Any NATO country attacked would trigger article 5.
I think this week will be looked at decades from now as the beginning of the end for Putin.China seemingly turning against them is really significant
I don't think Putin would have expected that, and China are the country that buy the most oil off them too
If SWIFT is happening they're really gonna be in the shit as well
It just makes me more worried though, if Putin gets backed into a corner will he just give up? Who knows at this point
I don't think nukes will ever come into play.And any Russian plane downed in a no fly zone would trigger a thermonuclear war.
Wouldn’t be surprised if at the end of this he’s taken out or tops himself.I think this week will be looked at decades from now as the beginning of the end for Putin.
Please, you don't live in a country of a billion+ people with a huge percentage in poverty. Russian retaliation against India could lead to a scale of human suffering of unimaginable scale (greater than what we are seeing in Ukraine) due to India's reliance on Russia for agricultural fertilizer in addition to other materials.So what you’re saying is….they are showing their true colours
It always boggles my brain that Russians feel intimidated by NATO as if it's some aggressive force of nature looking for any reason to bomb Moscow...while at the same breath everyone knows that NATO will do feck all if russia stirred up shit with a non NATO country. It's why Putin had the gall to even invade Ukraine in the first place as he knows this organisation will not use it's weapon's against it.You see it incorrectly, Vida. Don't take any criticism of India to heart re its abstention at the UN. They voted pragmatically and abstaining is not the same as voting against a resolution.
NATO is a defensive alliance and no threat to Russia unless Russia attacks a NATO member country. Ask yourself why former Warsaw Pact countries have been clamouring to be a part of NATO since the collapse of the Soviet Union and maybe your perspective will change.
Tanks like frozen ground.I wonder how the freezing conditions will impact things for either side. It's hardly optimal to move around or be posted somewhere in near sub zero temperature.