saw this yesterday and had to chuckle
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
The Kremlin obviously believe that Ukraine belongs to them historically so they’ll be justifying their actions that way.
Is this an IRA related picture?saw this yesterday and had to chuckle
nope he wasnt in the IRA sureThe part that gets me about Iraq is that it wasn’t even a NATO operation. Several members of NATO actively opposed it.
Yes but we have shamefully been slow to do so.
The Home Secretary's statement yesterday: https://www.gov.uk/government/speec...tement-on-humanitarian-support-for-ukrainians
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I’d like to make a grand threat about leaving the country if this lot get re-elected, but because of Brexit and Russia the options have dried up.
Thats not for me to answer and can only speculate. I guess if you see NATO as a hostile force then, its expansion near your country is a threat you cant ignore. Ukraine inclusion will make Russia vulnerable as in event of war, oil supply can be easily cut which will result in paralysing Russia. It would be wise for NATO and Russia to have some buffer space and keep Ukraine as neutral ground. But we have crossed that line long back.
Some concessions have always been made to keep the peace.
This is basically NATO and Ukraine using the same asymmetric warfare tactics the Russian regime has done over the past decade. Not that I mind.
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What is that?
I'm really curious how the Russian population responds to all this increasing isolation.
Strategically that would have been a wise decision, but the problem is, that the European way obviously is far more appealing, as proven by the amount of further SU members being part of NATO/EU today. Russia's way wasn't attractive, and the way the Russians dominated the SU and suppressed other ethnic groups didn't help their cause.
As they are trying to force their will upon bordering states they lost their right to be legitimately concerned about NATO coming closer.
That’s a can of worms this thread doesn’t really needsaw this yesterday and had to chuckle
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I understand these comments but couldn't they have at least placed mines In the roads ?
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It's hard to know what is true in a war.... But if the narrative we have over here is true about russian media ... That it is still saying it's an operation in the Donbas only then there must be a huge disjoint with that and what Russians are seeing ... Companies closing.... Credit cards not working... Stock market closed....
If they did, it's not exactly in their best interest if this is public knowledge
Sorry I should have said hybrid warfare, not asymmetric.
Asymmetric warfare is any conflict where the two powers are unequal militarily.
Hybrid warfare is any kind of conventional or unconventional tactics of subversion. So fake news, or manipulation of social media (both of which Russia used in 2016 in the UK referendum and US election). It is basically a form of propaganda for the digital age.
A long, detailed discussion here: https://www.nato.int/docu/review/ar...mplexity-and-trust-as-the-antidote/index.html
Petitions are pointless. At best they can force a debate in t HOC, there has been a debate and the idea was shot down.
Yes, I agree and I am familiar with the concept of hybrid warfare.
Yeh, if we are too incompetent to keep pace just drop the visa requirement!
Maybe they did and that's why it is moving very slowly - if the Russians have to make sure it's save to use the road, it would massively slow them down.
Signed, closing on 108k now.
The narrative is true but people are not stupid.
We had the same situation in the 90s. Everyone under 70 knew that what the state controlled media was saying was bs and figured out ways to learn the truth, at least parts of it.
And this was before internet became widespread.
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“The main body of the large Russian column advancing on Kyiv remains over 30km from the centre of the city having been delayed by staunch Ukrainian resistance, mechanical breakdown and congestion. The column has made little discernible progress in over three days.” according the the Ukrainian MOD. So, it's fair to assume that there are some sort of counter-attack measures to delay the convoy.
We let the wolf through the front door and now we are shocked it's eating the children. Poor souls.
Have you heard of Priti Patel and the Tories?
They can come in as long as they pick fruit
not really plus its in a spoiler so dont worry about it
Lesson learned: Don't invade a country at a time when everything is muddy and you can't really drive offroad. Disabling a few vehicles just stops everything.
Absolutely bang on. Well said.
It's hard to say how much of this is them trying to distance themselves from that decision retroactively but it's a good sign anyway. Deripaska, Fridman speaking out, Abramovich forwarding Chelsea money to a fund to support Ukraine...
It's been my daily 3 minutes of optimism, I'll go to hopeless desperation & existential dread now.
Who is that? Someone from Ireland I assume?saw this yesterday and had to chuckle
absolutely not, he was never a member
I think they will think that the West hates Russia and basically trying to start a war against them. YOu have to remember that the propaganda that's being fed to them -- denazification (a morally correct thing to do considering what the Nazi Germans did during the war) --- and then to protect the ''Russians'' living in the Eastern parts of Ukraine from the genocide being initiated by the Nazi Ukrainians.
This military incursion is the right thing to do and yet the West is generating some propaganda that Ukrainians are being killed when really its the Russians that are being killed.