Roman Abramovich plans to sell Chelsea | SOLD for £4.25BN

[Devil’s Trident]

I’m surprised by the chelsea fans new found integrity and morality all of a sudden. You love to see it. Hiding behind the garb of we fans didnt do anything wrong so why are we punished ? I bet you didn’t think along those lines when Roman bought chelsea, did you ? I didn’t see any protest when you were bought. Where were you with your moral high ground at that time ? You were not thinking about the fecking slippery slope for the premier league then ? When Roman was pumping his billions buying trophies for you, you were celebrating and shouting from the roof tops, never once it occurred to you what if that rich owner of yours gets bored or gets pulled, what then ? What would happen to your club ? Never once your morality was shaken when he made your club a play thing and made a mockery of premier league with his money. You behaved the same way as those geordies are behaving right now. You paved the way for everyone. You were least bothered , weren’t you ?

You were the 3rd/4th biggest club in London nevermind England when Roman bought you. Did you know how it felt for other club fans when your owner pumped millions after millions of this shady money unjustifiedly, beyond your capacity to overtake almost every club in the premier league ? But did you care ? Not one jot. You tarnished the whole level playing field for everyone. Did your integrity not kick in then when fans of other clubs felt the unjust ? Did you feel for other fans ? Now you, you are giving lectures about how it’s unfair on your fans ? Give me fecking break.

I would be sympathetic with you lot if all these years you were protesting against your ownership and Roman instead you were busy celebrating winning trophies with his money. You were being tribal as a fanbase. So when fans of every club are celebrating your demise by being tribal as you were all these years now woe is me ? Why should you suffer ? You should because you were equally compliant in legitimising Roman regime. You were supportive of his money and his methods all these years. Even now your fans are singing his name during the applause for Ukraine. This is your behaviour towards Roman and that has been your behaviour for the past 2 decades. So cry me a river and take your faux morality and faux integrity somewhere else. You are nothing more than a tainted club with tainted ownership with few trophies bought with tainted money. Russian warship go feck yourself.

 

[Flexdegea]

As I said before couldn't have happened to a better bunch.


Swings and roundabouts. They enjoyed the false reality last 20 years from the Roman funding, money took from the Russian people by underhand tactics and the fans didn't care less about it as the trophies where flowing, so enjoy the massive fall now and potential bust all this might bring.


Can't be having it both ways.




Got to laugh at some of the comments and whataboutism from Chelsea men and some other folks in this thread.

 

[Paxi]

@TheMagicFoolBus is a good guy too!

@Kentonio

 

[Cloud7]

This quoting of Chelsea fans reminds me of that Chelsea fan that used to be around here who seemed to have a gambling addiction. I hope they're doing okay these days.

 

[DanClancy]

Just to clarify Roman had initially agreed to donate his profits from selling Chelsea so assume that was after the 1.5 billion he's owed?

 

[giggs-beckham]

How dare she have a working class London accent.

That is ridiculous

 

[Scriblerus]

Just to clarify Roman had initially agreed to donate his profits from selling Chelsea so assume that was after the 1.5 billion he's owed?

He said 'nett proceeds' but neither he nor the club have responded to questions about what deductions would be made to reach that nett figure. It should also be noted that he said that the money would go to 'victims of the war in Ukraine' which could be interpreted as applying largely or even wholly to Russians not Ukrainians - again, no-one has come forward to clarify that.

 

[#07]

If Chelsea goes into administration, even if its on a technicality to get the club sold, does that mean an automatic 9 point deduction from the Premier League?

 

[0le]

If Chelsea goes into administration, even if its on a technicality to get the club sold, does that mean an automatic 9 point deduction from the Premier League?

I like how you think.

Fingers crossed it does happen.

 

[giggs-beckham]

If there ever was a profile for a Chelsea fan, this would be it.

Hey looks a right slimey cnut - sorry Wepat.

Harsh

 

[LochGormanAbú]

If Chelsea goes into administration, even if its on a technicality to get the club sold, does that mean an automatic 9 point deduction from the Premier League?

Still not going to help us

 

[adexkola]

There's a pretty well-established precedent for this type of sanctions though. It's not like they were invented in the current crisis. And it'd be surprising if they have never previously been legally challenged (presumably without success).

If they are related to stuff Abramovich did in the past it begs the question of what has changed.

Indeed. The most common thing is for the initial seizure to be used to leverage an agreement without the need to test it in Court. The supply of steel to the army doesn’t look the most robust argument to me.

Same. The damage can be done in the meantime before legal proceedings begin.

 

[adexkola]

Before they seize assets? The fact they’ve already done it?
let’s say you’re carrying a huge sum of money and the police stop you. They’re allowed to take that money from you until you can prove it’s yours and and obtained legally.
The law is pretty consistent at all levels with this? That’s what seizing is. Roman is allowed to fight this, nobody has said he isn’t.

Yeah this is not a good thing. See how Civil Asset Forfeiture works in the US to understand how this can be weaponized.

 

[Bilbo]

eh?

It’s a football club, that will continue to be a huge football club.

What am I empathising over?

Do you empathise every time they get a bad result or don’t manage to get the player they wanted in the transfer market?

We’ve had a much worse ownership situation, where the club itself was leveraged, Chelsea won’t have anything remotely like that. No football fans feel sorry for us, we still have our club, we still spend money, and just like Chelsea we still have it better than 99% of all other clubs in the football pyramid, we’re just a bit shit.

Agree with you on this. What we will see now, most likely, is simply Chelsea going back to what they were before Roman bumped them up several levels. I've never heard one single football fan outside of United feel any sympathy for our club being thrown into debt.

 

[Hughie77]

Have to say it's a bit ironic that English fans of other clubs are feeling Chelsea should be punished because of Romans money.

Where do you think UKs money came from. Eh? Need a history lesson on colonization.

By this measure, the UK should have relegated itself to how it was before the colonial era after the 50s when the likes of India got independent. This logic is cynical.

Colonization while deplorable doesn't necissate you ignore the effort put in by ordinary people. The scientists, engineers who's ingenuity helped the world and the UK through industrial revolution.

It is precisely because of this reasons UK citizens shouldn't be held responsible and are not punishable for a colonial past.

Punish Roman by all accounts but the club is more than that. Do you think the club you support is defined by your owner?

Absolving the UK, but to find Chelsea punishable because of an owner and who's money were perfectly acceptable to the UK government when the sale was made 19 years ago is hypocritical. Especially coming from English fans.

Is the club you support defined by the owner? Wow. Chelsea will be fine when the eventually sell. But they won't have the same as Romans dirty money. We will see how many support the club then.

 

[HTG]

It’s amazing really what a bad picture their fans are painting in this situation. Never seen a fanbase come across this badly.

 

[Kaos]

If Chelsea goes into administration, even if its on a technicality to get the club sold, does that mean an automatic 9 point deduction from the Premier League?

We’ll still finish below them.

 

[Hughie77]

I’m surprised by the chelsea fans new found integrity and morality all of a sudden. You love to see it. Hiding behind the garb of we fans didnt do anything wrong so why are we punished ? I bet you didn’t think along those lines when Roman bought chelsea, did you ? I didn’t see any protest when you were bought. Where were you with your moral high ground at that time ? You were not thinking about the fecking slippery slope for the premier league then ? When Roman was pumping his billions buying trophies for you, you were celebrating and shouting from the roof tops, never once it occurred to you what if that rich owner of yours gets bored or gets pulled, what then ? What would happen to your club ? Never once your morality was shaken when he made your club a play thing and made a mockery of premier league with his money. You behaved the same way as those geordies are behaving right now. You paved the way for everyone. You were least bothered , weren’t you ?

You were the 3rd/4th biggest club in London nevermind England when Roman bought you. Did you know how it felt for other club fans when your owner pumped millions after millions of this shady money unjustifiedly, beyond your capacity to overtake almost every club in the premier league ? But did you care ? Not one jot. You tarnished the whole level playing field for everyone. Did your integrity not kick in then when fans of other clubs felt the unjust ? Did you feel for other fans ? Now you, you are giving lectures about how it’s unfair on your fans ? Give me fecking break.

I would be sympathetic with you lot if all these years you were protesting against your ownership and Roman instead you were busy celebrating winning trophies with his money. You were being tribal as a fanbase. So when fans of every club are celebrating your demise by being tribal as you were all these years now woe is me ? Why should you suffer ? You should because you were equally compliant in legitimising Roman regime. You were supportive of his money and his methods all these years. Even now your fans are singing his name during the applause for Ukraine. This is your behaviour towards Roman and that has been your behaviour for the past 2 decades. Cry me a river and take your faux morality and faux integrity somewhere else. You are nothing more than a tainted club with tainted ownership with few trophies bought with tainted money. Russian warship go feck yourself.

Like this .

 

[jackal&hyde]

It’s amazing really what a bad picture their fans are painting in this situation. Never seen a fanbase come across this badly.

Complete moral bankruptcy. Most were up in arms during the Super League fiasco shouting morality but now when the gangster owner is in trouble and through extension the club, it's suddenly unfair.

 

[cyberman]

Yeah this is not a good thing. See how Civil Asset Forfeiture works in the US to understand how this can be weaponized.

I dont agree with it but it is what it is.

 

[FrankDrebin]

It’s amazing really what a bad picture their fans are painting in this situation. Never seen a fanbase come across this badly.

Expect the same from City or Newcastle fans if a similar situation manifests itself.

 

[TheReligion]

It’s amazing really what a bad picture their fans are painting in this situation. Never seen a fanbase come across this badly.

I know. I think it’s because clubs like ours have a rich history and culture. We as fans know how to conduct ourselves and when enough tribalism is enough. Sadly these lotto winning louts don’t appreciate success as it’s not earned.

 

[Champ]

This was not a majority of fans, it was condemned by Tuchel, the club and Chelsea supporters groups. Damning all Chelsea fans on that basis is unfair.

Admittedly I can't say it was the majority of fans, but it was a loud section of the crowd, and I haven't yet met a Chelsea fan (I know a fair few) that is willing to criticise RA.

Again, dance with the Devil, you will eventually get burnt.

 

[Handsome Devil]

I’m surprised by the chelsea fans new found integrity and morality all of a sudden. You love to see it. Hiding behind the garb of we fans didnt do anything wrong so why are we punished ? I bet you didn’t think along those lines when Roman bought chelsea, did you ? I didn’t see any protest when you were bought. Where were you with your moral high ground at that time ? You were not thinking about the fecking slippery slope for the premier league then ? When Roman was pumping his billions buying trophies for you, you were celebrating and shouting from the roof tops, never once it occurred to you what if that rich owner of yours gets bored or gets pulled, what then ? What would happen to your club ? Never once your morality was shaken when he made your club a play thing and made a mockery of premier league with his money. You behaved the same way as those geordies are behaving right now. You paved the way for everyone. You were least bothered , weren’t you ?

You were the 3rd/4th biggest club in London nevermind England when Roman bought you. Did you know how it felt for other club fans when your owner pumped millions after millions of this shady money unjustifiedly, beyond your capacity to overtake almost every club in the premier league ? But did you care ? Not one jot. You tarnished the whole level playing field for everyone. Did your integrity not kick in then when fans of other clubs felt the unjust ? Did you feel for other fans ? Now you, you are giving lectures about how it’s unfair on your fans ? Give me fecking break.

I would be sympathetic with you lot if all these years you were protesting against your ownership and Roman instead you were busy celebrating winning trophies with his money. You were being tribal as a fanbase. So when fans of every club are celebrating your demise by being tribal as you were all these years now woe is me ? Why should you suffer ? You should because you were equally compliant in legitimising Roman regime. You were supportive of his money and his methods all these years. Even now your fans are singing his name during the applause for Ukraine. This is your behaviour towards Roman and that has been your behaviour for the past 2 decades. Cry me a river and take your faux morality and faux integrity somewhere else. You are nothing more than a tainted club with tainted ownership with few trophies bought with tainted money. Russian warship go feck yourself.

Bravo.

 

[choccy77]

Very interesting time to be a Chelsea fan. Got to feel sorry for the fans and players themselves, but it's something that had to happen to the club based on everything that is going on over there. It will be interesting to see what happens now, and how everything is handled.

Why do you have to feel sorry for them?

They chose to support and get paid by a person who's wealth is covered in blood.

Says a lot about the type of people that Chelsea fans are, by keep singing his name especially during a moment to give support to Ukrain.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Whatever happens, they're not going to be anywhere near as competitive as they have been the last 20 years.

This Candy guy has a net worth of around £800 million. Even if he gets the additional financial backing that he wants, as a club they'll be operating on a completely different level.

There'll be no Roman there personally seeing to the £333 million wage bill whilst there's only £14 million in the bank.

Couldn't happen to a better club.

 

[soapythecat]

In the grand scheme of things we will be fine. However football is secondary right now and the government are entitled to apply sanctions however they feel necessary.

Roman Abramovich has been amazing for Chelsea. It’s hard to predict where it will go from here as it’s only a guessing game however I’d imagine the club, played and fans will have an answer before the 31st May. It surely won’t carry on that long.

The war in Ukraine must take priority and rightly so. Moaning about football seems foolish right now but I suppose it’s a good distraction from the crisis in Ukraine.

I stand by what Roman Abramovich has done for Chelsea. He has developed the club to another level and the academy is absolutely incredible. However we must move on now and it’s best not having any negative associations regardless of evidence. We could easily flourish as a club with developing young talent and older heads like Thiago Silva and hopefully never wasting money on players like Lukaku again.

It’s fair to be thankful but accept moving on.

The most sensible and proper post in this tread.

 

[choccy77]

People talking about Romans pledge to support war victims.

Please look at the wording carefully and also listen to Putins Words.

Roman said he would give net profit to support the victims of war.

Putin has said many times, Russia are the victims.

At no stage has Roman ever said he will give the money to Ukraine or its people.

Roman, is only looking after one person.

 

[Offside]

Chelsea fans taking on this seige mentality about the uncertainty of future success, "how sweet would it be if we still came out of this successful" etc. as though it would be some kind of romantic rejuvenation in the face of adversity...because the Russian Oilgarch who pumped money into making them relevant is being sanctioned in response to a sickening war? Hardly akin to United's 60's revival in the face of losing most of their team in 58. This is precisely why Chelsea were never and will be never as big as Man United, their story is plastic and empty in comparison to what makes the truly big clubs truly great.

 

[Gringo]

Why are people surprised Chelsea supporters are backing Abramovich? They've been sportwashed, it's happening at City and to Newcastle. Your average fan doesn't want to think about politics when it comes to watching and supporting your team. I dont feel sorry for Chelsea but I can understand the POV.

 

[I’m loving my life]

If Chelsea goes into administration, even if its on a technicality to get the club sold, does that mean an automatic 9 point deduction from the Premier League?

To be honest it should be relegation and post-2003 trophies stripped.

Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of fans and owner. Penance for what you did to football, it’s economy and morals for the last 2 decades.

 

[Dancfc]

This was not a majority of fans, it was condemned by Tuchel, the club and Chelsea supporters groups. Damning all Chelsea fans on that basis is unfair.

That's always been an issue unfortunently.

I've been called a racist and had in implied (including on here) despite never uttering a racist word in my life and (near fatally) putting myself in harms way to protect a friend from extremists when I was a teenager, all due to a minority I have gone and will carry on going out of my way to avoid meeting.

When it's other fans it's accepted as a minority and the other fans are left alone, when a Chelsea fan does something it's apparently every Chelsea fan that's like that.

 

[ManchesterManchester]

People talking about Romans pledge to support war victims.

Please look at the wording carefully and also listen to Putins Words.

Roman said he would give net profit to support the victims of war.

Putin has said many times, Russia are the victims.

At no stage has Roman ever said he will give the money to Ukraine or its people.

Roman, is only looking after one person.

He is not going to risk his families life. Your completely underestimating Putin and how cruel he is. Everyone who goes against him winds up dead or in jail. Roman still has relatives in Russia, he’s looking after his family not himself

 

[crossy1686]

If Chelsea goes into administration, even if its on a technicality to get the club sold, does that mean an automatic 9 point deduction from the Premier League?

It certainly does. 9 point deduction is on the table

 

[crossy1686]

Chelsea fans taking on this seige mentality about the uncertainty of future success, "how sweet would it be if we still came out of this successful" etc. as though it would be some kind of romantic rejuvenation in the face of adversity...because the Russian Oilgarch who pumped money into making them relevant is being sanctioned in response to a sickening war? Hardly akin to United's 60's revival in the face of losing most of their team in 58. This is precisely why Chelsea were never and will be never as big as Man United, their story is plastic and empty in comparison to what makes the truly big clubs truly great.

The fact that they're still only competitive because he keeps pumping billions in says everything you need to know about the club. You'd have thought they would be self sustaining by now

 

[crossy1686]

BBC: Roman Abramovich: Chelsea fans urged to stop chanting name of owner

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/60704463

 

[TheMagicFoolBus]

@TheMagicFoolBus is a good guy too!

He's got a great username too.

Cheers for the kind words lads - only tangentially watching this thread right now because as has been rightly pointed out there are far too many mental gymnasts in here and I find it pretty distasteful.

 

[Lee565]

I’m surprised by the chelsea fans new found integrity and morality all of a sudden. You love to see it. Hiding behind the garb of we fans didnt do anything wrong so why are we punished ? I bet you didn’t think along those lines when Roman bought chelsea, did you ? I didn’t see any protest when you were bought. Where were you with your moral high ground at that time ? You were not thinking about the fecking slippery slope for the premier league then ? When Roman was pumping his billions buying trophies for you, you were celebrating and shouting from the roof tops, never once it occurred to you what if that rich owner of yours gets bored or gets pulled, what then ? What would happen to your club ? Never once your morality was shaken when he made your club a play thing and made a mockery of premier league with his money. You behaved the same way as those geordies are behaving right now. You paved the way for everyone. You were least bothered , weren’t you ?

You were the 3rd/4th biggest club in London nevermind England when Roman bought you. Did you know how it felt for other club fans when your owner pumped millions after millions of this shady money unjustifiedly, beyond your capacity to overtake almost every club in the premier league ? But did you care ? Not one jot. You tarnished the whole level playing field for everyone. Did your integrity not kick in then when fans of other clubs felt the unjust ? Did you feel for other fans ? Now you, you are giving lectures about how it’s unfair on your fans ? Give me fecking break.

I would be sympathetic with you lot if all these years you were protesting against your ownership and Roman instead you were busy celebrating winning trophies with his money. You were being tribal as a fanbase. So when fans of every club are celebrating your demise by being tribal as you were all these years now woe is me ? Why should you suffer ? You should because you were equally compliant in legitimising Roman regime. You were supportive of his money and his methods all these years. Even now your fans are singing his name during the applause for Ukraine. This is your behaviour towards Roman and that has been your behaviour for the past 2 decades. So cry me a river and take your faux morality and faux integrity somewhere else. You are nothing more than a tainted club with tainted ownership with few trophies bought with tainted money. Russian warship go feck yourself.

Also remember before roman brought them they were facing administration so all this rubbish of fans and club not deserving to be punished when they are now facing a situation still better than what they were facing before they were brought by roman

 

[duffer]

BBC: Roman Abramovich: Chelsea fans urged to stop chanting name of owner

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/60704463

A Tory MP asking is bound to do the trick.

 

[choccy77]

Hopefully the sanctions remain in place for a long time

If Chelsea goes into administration, even if its on a technicality to get the club sold, does that mean an automatic 9 point deduction from the Premier League?

Rules be Rules