Thought he was better than Pogba today, which must be a first!
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Stepped up in the second half. So much dynamism, love him.
Was excellent, barely gave the ball away and worked hard, which he needed as he played alone in the midfield.
Fred... 
Not sure if serious…
Shades of Park destroying Chelsea. He was that good.
If that wasn’t his best game ever I guaran-fecking-tee his best game was against another top four contender. He’s a big game player. One of very few in our squad of mental midgets.
Two things -
1) Playing with an actual DM and not having to cover for both Mctominay and Pogba/Bruno
2) Getting a week's rest. He's our most played midfielder and his game involves a lot of running, it noticeably shows when he has to play weekend - midweek - weekend with no rest. I think people forget that fatigue is real when you play 90 minutes of intense football.
I mean there's a reason why he starts for the number 1 ranked international team in the world, his ability has never been in question for me.
Always see some fake compliments over here in a "good but never long term option". While he's our by far best and most consistent midfielder in the last 5 years. Easily outpeformed Schweinsteigger, Schneiderlin, Matic, McTominay, Herrera probably too.. yet he's not good enough.
He's more seen forward contributing to attack now for those too slow to understand the game and appreciate him but even before in his deeper role, he showed how absolutely crucial he's for our defensive game which was often nonexistent whenever he wasn't playing. Obviously people who seen footy only from the tv or playstation overlook his defensive work, covering tackling, forcing errors and one touch passing in high pace with decent vision which all gives other players the freedom to attack and create
There's a real struggle to give him credit in his more timid games and never allow him to make a mistake for some reason. But today he was just ridiculous and that's something considering he played in that midfield pretty much alone again, with grandpa Matic and linguid Pogba giving the ball away with their every second touch not being able to close down spaces quickly enough when we couldn't get near the ball.
So yeah he's definitely in a title winning team but the standard around him obviously need to get better. Not just the statistics show that we are much better team when he plays.
When he has proper players around him, he performs very well. When he plays with McT, he is the one who needs to be main playmaker which he is not.
On days like this he's world class easily. He often matches or outperforms best DMs in the best leagues with his tackles/clearances/blocks so I am not sure about this argument.
Because he's small and works extremely hard he's got great balance and dynamism crucial to get into those good positions without the need of long legs, because of that he's mostly a clean tackler. Look at Pogba and McTominay, how does that affect their defensive contribution positively? once in a while they can reach to a different ball/tackle, but their timing and dynamism is night and day with Fred who's just moping around much faster and more intelligently.
Put a proper deep playmaker around him and we'll see the best of him.
Sorry, but a contrary newb opinion here regarding Fred’s comment:
It’s just an obvious statement of fact. Who is going to suggest that we’re better off with no strategic overview or direction?
When Fred plays well, which in my view is usually, somebody will just have to find something else to criticise the guy for. We really don’t appreciate him here.
You mean if it's a first part? Because he was miles better.
Let's put it this way, I'd rather the ball fall to Fred than Pogba. Brilliant today, always tries hard.
No coach can hate a player like him. Honest , hardworking and always gives his all on the pitch. And no one can tell me he doesn’t have the talent or skill set good enough. You can see time and again he’s got it. The only problem is inconsistency which isn’t only his problem it’s the whole club’s problem. I have no doubt in my mind under a very good manager and good setup he has the tools to be one of the best midfielders in the league.
Under Pep he would be a baller.
Under Pep he would be a baller.
He's capable of such a high level which makes it so annoying when he is at his low level.
He'll never have the passing range or the ability to be a deep playmaker really, it puts too much pressure on him and his weaknesses. But put him as the box to box player to link up play, do some dribbling and short passing, and off the ball pressing... And he's excellent. Get a DM with a good passing range to be behind Fred and Bruno and we'll be cooking in midfield next season
He'll never have the passing range or the ability to be a deep playmaker really, it puts too much pressure on him and his weaknesses. But put him as the box to box player to link up play, do some dribbling and short passing, and off the ball pressing... And he's excellent. Get a DM with a good passing range to be behind Fred and Bruno and we'll be cooking in midfield next season
How many goals and assist does he have ?
One of the best performances in a red shirt from him today. From where I was sitting in the stadium it honestly looked like he was everywhere
Sensational today, just wish he could find some way to put in performances like that more consistently. Definitely helps pairing him with Matic
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Just to add, he's had many games as good as this. We have heard various times in the past couple of years that "this was Fred's best ever game". Those saying this are just giving him a backhanded compliment.
I've read nothing, but Fred was class today
I don't care what anyone says I absolutely love him. One of the few players who seems like he gets what it means to play for United. He's inconsistent but so is the entire team, I think if you give him a better partner he'd be much more consistent. At his best he's genuinely very, very good.
Good performance, one of his best on the ball for us.
You're allowed to love him. I would however advise you to see a optometrist. His passing is terrible and he will lose 90/100 physical battles. His workrate is good, but should we settle for that?
Yeah, the “it’s a first” part. Fred is often better than Pogba. In fact usually better in the bigger games.
He was excellent.
Him and McTominay are both better when they can harass and push forward instead of sitting and holding for us in midfield.
Him and McTominay are both better when they can harass and push forward instead of sitting and holding for us in midfield.
Fred was absolute class today. Excels further up the pitch.
That flick in the first goal, he was inspired by Bruno today.
Sancho was the 2nd best for me. It was close, though.
He has had a ton of really good matches, I am a fan of his.
With that said he had never had a game for us where he looked so good on the ball. He looked like Modric mixed with Kante today, it is no backhanded compliment to say that is his best ever performance for us.
The referee was better than Pogba todsy
19 goals
17 assists rashford style
Sancho was poor 2nd half
I must have forgotten stuff. I thought he's the only one in attack that made things happen. He fizzled out near the end but that was expected.
I meant this season mate
Fred has more passion for the club in his little finger than Pogba (the most overrated footballer of his generation) has in his whole body.
Mad that him playing like an actual midfielder gets so much praise.
That's a bog standard midfield performance in my book, if that's an exceptional performance from Fred it just shows how low he's set the bar.
That's a bog standard midfield performance in my book, if that's an exceptional performance from Fred it just shows how low he's set the bar.
Such a strange player. Goes from looking like a championship midfielder to a top class number 8 game to game. What a performance tonight!
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