Rashford considering his future...

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Don’t take it personally, mate.

There is a myopic group on the Caf that believes that Ralf is the second coming of SAF. Everything that is wrong with our results and our performances is down to the players with zero accountability to the coaching staff and the management/board. Bizarre, I know.

I believe Rashford has some responsibility for his poor form, but getting the best out of players is also the responsibility of the coaching staff. You are absolutely right with Rashford’s track record. I he didn’t have any ability, we wouldn’t have seen him score 20+ goals two straight seasons. This thread is like flies to a cow pie for those who are frustrated with our record this season looking for somewhere to place blame other than management and coaching. Let me be clear, both the player and the coaches share some responsibility here.

No coaches made him stay around halfway line today, same thing happened few weeks back when he didn’t follow-up on that rebound. Him losing every time against a single marker.
 

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Alternative take on Rashford current situation.
At the moment Rashford is totally out of form, his level isn't good enough, but so is Ronaldo, Ronaldo is possibly worst, yet he gets to start every game playing 90 mins.
Could this be demoralizing Rashford, seeing as the club he has given everything to would prefer 37 year old past it Ronaldo over him, is there any sporting benefit to persist with Ronaldo who is even more likely to walk away before Rashford and has less to offer medium to long term
sounds similar to when Zlatan came in and allegedly put Martial's nose out of joint, believe the prevailing view was Martial should man up and accept competition
 

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Alternative take on Rashford current situation.
At the moment Rashford is totally out of form, his level isn't good enough, but so is Ronaldo, Ronaldo is possibly worst, yet he gets to start every game playing 90 mins.
Could this be demoralizing Rashford, seeing as the club he has given everything to would prefer 37 year old past it Ronaldo over him, is there any sporting benefit to persist with Ronaldo who is even more likely to walk away before Rashford and has less to offer medium to long term
Poor take imo. 37 year old Ronaldo still is miles above than what Rashford has to offer. He has also done more for the club in terms of helping it win trophies while he was in the same age bracket.

Its all about his poor attitude. If he thinks he deserves a spot than why not fight for it? Why does he think he has made a starting spot his own? So many of these young players act like spoilt brats these days that the moment things start getting tough, they drop their shoulders and hide behind their agents and PR teams.
 

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sounds similar to when Zlatan came in and allegedly put Martial's nose out of joint, believe the prevailing view was Martial should man up and accept competition
That view is only valid if you are not the golden DNA boy.
 

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Alternative take on Rashford current situation.
At the moment Rashford is totally out of form, his level isn't good enough, but so is Ronaldo, Ronaldo is possibly worst, yet he gets to start every game playing 90 mins.
Could this be demoralizing Rashford, seeing as the club he has given everything to would prefer 37 year old past it Ronaldo over him, is there any sporting benefit to persist with Ronaldo who is even more likely to walk away before Rashford and has less to offer medium to long term
Ronaldo is not worse than what Rashford has been offering in the same period. And let's not forget that Rashford had plenty of crap games last season before any Ronaldo return rumor. There was a reason Ole bent backward to ask Cavani to stay a second season, and Cavani situation is indeed "more likely to walk away before Rashford and has less to offer medium to long term" even at the end of last season.

If Ronaldo is that bad, shouldn't it be easy to outperform him, and prove critics wrong? Sulking and actually doing even worse is lamest excuse of them all for a pro.

Rashford showed in these past 2 seasons, that he's a risk for any medium and long term plan. Even if he somehow gain form, he is not reliable to keep pandering to. An good offer come, and we should take it and say goodbye to him.
 

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Alternative take on Rashford current situation.
At the moment Rashford is totally out of form, his level isn't good enough, but so is Ronaldo, Ronaldo is possibly worst, yet he gets to start every game playing 90 mins.
Could this be demoralizing Rashford, seeing as the club he has given everything to would prefer 37 year old past it Ronaldo over him, is there any sporting benefit to persist with Ronaldo who is even more likely to walk away before Rashford and has less to offer medium to long term
18 goals this season versus 5, it's pretty clear cut who offers more sporting benefit this season.
 

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I was disappointed to see Rashford start yesterday. In light of Rashfords comments starting him made Rangnick look really weak.
 

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Wow, like youve been waitig and hoping he does something poor so you can come on here and justify your point, bit cringe.

I thought he actually had a reasonable game, bar the own goal. Dont get me wrong, I didnt want us to sign him at the time, I want him out too, but "Just take £5m"....come on now, be realistic, not even going to comment there
Waiting and hoping ? Does this guy even give me a chance for that because he has a mistake in him every single game and lucky he got bailed out by Ronaldo the GOAT. Again how much would he go for ? Can you answer that at least.
 

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There's wider issues at play here. For one, I don't think he's been fully fit for a while and probably pained through a lot of pain when we had nobody else.

Out of the current crop of c***s, he's the one I'd give another chance to once a new manager comes in. Perhaps its the romantic in me, but I just find giving up on of our own so quickly really sad. Genuine world class players have struggled at United and will continue to do until the culture of the club is changed for the better.
You do realize that this romantic approach (instead of rational, long-term planning) lead United to these 9 years of wildness, right?

Everything started from the romantic "The Chosen One" story of Moyes, with that huge banner on Old Trafford. This was created both as a romantic story and a jab on Mourinho (because he wasn't chosen).

We stuck too long with Ole when the signs were bad, because he knew "the United way".

I want our club to be run with efficiency and rationality, like a supposedly top team. Not this romanticism that is bound is spell trouble in the business world.
 

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Waiting and hoping ? Does this guy even give me a chance for that because he has a mistake in him every single game and lucky he got bailed out by Ronaldo the GOAT. Again how much would he go for ? Can you answer that at least.
I cant put a figure on what he goes for. Te most important part is what would we sell him for and will there be buyers at that rate. If you wante edme to guess, I would say anywehere from £40-55m....but he wont be gettign sold this sumemr anyway.....sadly
 

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If he wants to leave then please leave. Nobody is untouchable when they have not won a single trophy in 4 years.
Fergie pushed out the likes of Beckham and Stam. Nobody is bigger then the club and certainly not some underperforming players who never win something major.
 

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Alternative take on Rashford current situation.
At the moment Rashford is totally out of form, his level isn't good enough, but so is Ronaldo, Ronaldo is possibly worst, yet he gets to start every game playing 90 mins.
Could this be demoralizing Rashford, seeing as the club he has given everything to would prefer 37 year old past it Ronaldo over him, is there any sporting benefit to persist with Ronaldo who is even more likely to walk away before Rashford and has less to offer medium to long term
The bubble burst and now he can't handle the reality that he isn't as good as Ole made him think he was. He needs to start showing some interest in the game and work his ass off to deserve a spot. I would put him last in the pecking order atm.
 

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Alternative take on Rashford current situation.
At the moment Rashford is totally out of form, his level isn't good enough, but so is Ronaldo, Ronaldo is possibly worst, yet he gets to start every game playing 90 mins.
Could this be demoralizing Rashford, seeing as the club he has given everything to would prefer 37 year old past it Ronaldo over him, is there any sporting benefit to persist with Ronaldo who is even more likely to walk away before Rashford and has less to offer medium to long term
Not really, no.
Firstly he was playing as CF and struggled when Ole was here. Then he was moved to the left where he seemed to be gaining form, looked much happier at first. How is Ronaldo replacing him?
Secondly take a look at goal+assist between the two and compare them. If Rashford was being given a chance at CF do you think he would have had the same productivity? I don't think so because his form is so bad. If he is doing okay then fine, you find Ronaldo as someone that holds him back. But as it is the only person holding himself is himself. He even lacks the basics now. He cant just replace Ronaldo when we know he's going to feck up every single chance. The fact that Ronaldo is 37 only makes it worse, Ronaldo's age shouldn't be used as an excuse "why does Ronaldo play instead of Rashford?" instead it indicates if Rashford is currently not good enough, he's so bad that a 37 y.o plays more than him.
We need every goal we can have now to get top 4. The club isn't a charity.
 
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PSG should put some of that Mbappe money towards him.

Honestly, I don't care if he goes elsewhere and does well. Plenty of players have done that and plenty of players have come to United and been a shadow of their previous form. You can't take these things in isolation and say "he recovered his form at club X so he would have done so at United".

The biggest issue with Rashford is getting some mug to pay what the club thinks hes worth and then covering his quite frankly comical wages. Someone might take a punt on him for £40m but they sure as hell aren't paying him £200k+ a week.

Yes I know Mbappe is leaving on a free
 

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I've been watching him closely from the stands all season, and there is definitely something not right with him. He was bending over again on Saturday, with his hands on his knees like he'd just ran the London Marathon. It was only ten minutes into the second half. Our entire team was tracking back and he was up on the halfway line all on his own, blowing out of his arse. I've seen him do this a few times now this season. We have 37 year old Ronaldo picking the ball up at left and right back, covering every blade of grass, and Marcus on the halfway line like his body is about to give up. I dunno if he has that long covid or summat, but he's not close to being match ready at the moment. He's not fit, he can't go past people, he can't break the lines or receive balls over the top. The tank is empty.
 

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the other options were Elenga and Lingard.
We actually have a very talented youngster named Alejandro Garnacho, who is only 17. Apparently its a risk to start him early but why not, couldn't be worse than Rashford at the moment.
 

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I missed some of the post match stuff. What are you alluding to?
I think Neville said it was something like ‘players with considerable PR operations‘ are causing the leaks.

And there‘s only one player in English football who has become a meme for PR.
 

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I don't know if anyone noticed Neville's commentary when Rashford went down injured. His tone of voice towards Rashford making a meal of his toe being hurt came across as Neville not being very impressed with Rashford already.
 

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I've been watching him closely from the stands all season, and there is definitely something not right with him. He was bending over again on Saturday, with his hands on his knees like he'd just ran the London Marathon. It was only ten minutes into the second half. Our entire team was tracking back and he was up on the halfway line all on his own, blowing out of his arse. I've seen him do this a few times now this season. We have 37 year old Ronaldo picking the ball up at left and right back, covering every blade of grass, and Marcus on the halfway line like his body is about to give up. I dunno if he has that long covid or summat, but he's not close to being match ready at the moment. He's not fit, he can't go past people, he can't break the lines or receive balls over the top. The tank is empty.
I got a friend who is a season-ticket holder who says the exact same thing you are.
 

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Cant help but think a lot of people on here dislike Rashford for the stuff he does outside the game and it gives me an uneasy feeling. These are the type of people id gladly beat the shit out of with their own shoes. Not saying you are one its just very prevalent in this thread.
 

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Cant help but think a lot of people on here dislike Rashford for the stuff he does outside the game and it gives me an uneasy feeling. These are the type of people id gladly beat the shit out of with their own shoes. Not saying you are one its just very prevalent in this thread.
Are you saying people dislike him because he campaigns for poor households? I couldn't give a shit if he campaigns to get Gerrard's slip overturned and give Liverpool a league medal.

Any player, through our youth system or otherwise - if they're being lazy entitled twats then they need to be shown the door if they can't get their act together.
 
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Are you saying people dislike him because he campaigns for poor households? I couldn't give a shit if he campaigns to get Gerrard's slip overturned and give Liverpool a league medal.

Any player, through our youth system our otherwise - if they're being lazy entitled twats then they need to be shown the door if they can't get their act together.
Next people say his nose shape cause us to dislike him :lol: . Maybe its hard to like someone who strut the pitch like Maradona incarnate while playing like total garbage and leaks shit to the media when things did not go his way. How can any Rashford defenders in this thread did not see that. It is always about race or his activity outside the pitch to make us dislike him huh :confused:
 

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Are you saying people dislike him because he campaigns for poor households? I couldn't give a shit if he campaigns to get Gerrard's slip overturned and give Liverpool a league medal.

Any player, through our youth system our otherwise - if they're being lazy entitled twats then they need to be shown the door if they can't get their act together.
Im saying exactly the first part.
 

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Cant help but think a lot of people on here dislike Rashford for the stuff he does outside the game and it gives me an uneasy feeling. These are the type of people id gladly beat the shit out of with their own shoes. Not saying you are one its just very prevalent in this thread.
I think you've confused Rashford with Greenwood.