The definition of which is supposedly at the heart of much that is currently unfolding in Ukraine.
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Surely they will reopen it at some point...
They will want to keep the ban as long as possible of course given that ADR\GDR shorts before they closed were something in the range of 700 million.
It's not meant to be, it's meant to avoid WW3 and nuclear self assured destruction. Even if there's only 1% chance of allied aggression coming to Nuclear war, you avoid it. If you think the leadership and partisanship of the US government vastly affects US military decisions then you don't truly understand the US Military Industial Complex.
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Yeah, thanks for asking. Although it looks more & more likely that I’ll need to leave Russia soon while I still can.
I’m in Russia, so no bombs & tanks, just a fascist police state trying to root out everyone who dares to oppose the war or the regime itself.
Are there still international airlines flying to Moscow?
Hopefully it all works out for you mate in these tough times.
Would you basically have to fly out or is going across a land border an option for you?
There are a few options still available — Armenia, Turkey etc. Although the flights are scarce & the prices are brutal — not to mention the amount of people that the countries like that can comfortably accept in since Russians have already fled to Armenia, Georgia etc. in vast numbers.
Going across a land border would be tougher logistically but who knows what the situation will look like when/if I’ll do it.
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Gotcha. Wasn’t sure the situation with a car and all since russian air travel has taken such a hit and car ownership in other places isn’t like it is here. I hope you stay safe and are able to get out man.
Stay safe.
I feel for you, even having to contemplate leaving your country, friends and family, and possibly job must be a terrible situation to be in.
Unfortunately I think the situation in Russia will only get worse.
Putin is like a rabid dog.
Yeah. It's hard to feel sorry for myself though since literally millions of Ukrainians don't even have that choice.
Seems about right — Georgia is one of the friendliest and hospitable countries around, it's relatively cheap, many people know Russian language etc. I'm really worrying about this forced gentrification though — especially in Armenia the rent prices had gone up almost 100% and a lot of Armenians that came to big cities like Erevan don't have the money to keep renting their places, while the influx of relatively wealthy & desperate political immigrants from Russia makes sure that there are always other takers.
Do you see many common Russians (not oligarchs) selling their assets abroad? Or at least trying to shift them.
Good luck to you mate, stay safe.
Those that I know personally, unsurprisingly, would rather go to their house, say, in Spain/Latvia/wherever instead of selling it. You have to understand that if you're a Russian with assets abroad and you're not directly involved with Putin you're unlikely to believe Russian propaganda.
For the first time in NATO's history you want it to directly attack Russian forces and believe there's no risk of that eventually escalating to the use of nuclear weapons because Putin is a bluffer.
So tell me, when the superior NATO forces quickly destroy all Russian units in Ukraine - after first having destroyed Russian anti-aircraft missile bases in Western Russia in order to keep its jets safe in the skies over Ukraine, what do you imagine Putin's response is going to be?
And then, what do you imagine NATO's response to Putin's response is going to be?
That sounds like it could turn ugly down the line.
Take care of yourself and hope you can get out safely.
I suppose you're aware, but just in case you aren't: a week (two?) ago the train from Saint Petersburg to Helsinki was still running and they were trying to increase its frequency from two to four per day because of the number of Russians (and others?) trying to get out. Maybe that's an option as well?
yeah, that's why I'm asking. Probably Putin will try everything to stop that middle class from fleeing away, who don't buy his crap.
Yeah, I know, thanks. I think there’s a ferry to Estonia as well… there’re options, it’s not full isolation, at least yet.
I’m not entirely sure. In his speech about true Russians, nation traitors and cleansing of Russia he didn’t seem to care much about them. In this case I feel that the ideological motives are more important to him than his country’s economy. FSB officers are thoroughly questioning a lot of people that are leaving the country but I haven’t heard about them stopping anyone from leaving (aside from those who were already prosecuted).
Maybe not. People leaving who don't believe his propaganda will only strengthen his control over Russia.
A weakened and economically crippled Russia may choose to fire off nukes anyway, regardless of whether NATO directly intervenes on the ground.
Who do you think Putin holds responsible for the loss of 15,000 personnel? Just Ukraine?
Had it not been for the West's intervention, this war would already be over. The point being, as many have stated, that the West is already engaged in this war.
Who do you think Putin holds responsible for the loss of 15,000 personnel? Just Ukraine?
Had it not been for the West's intervention, this war would already be over. The point being, as many have stated, that the West is already engaged in this war.
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So in your wise opinion , the west should not have given any arms to Ukraine so they would just get slaughtered quicker?
So, nothing should have been done to stem the tide of the Russian invasion?
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It seems Russia is going to try to attack Odessa without having anything on land to link up with. This could be a disaster for them.
That would be one of the most stupid actions of this stupid war...
Maybe they just want to scare Ukraine to commit troops to Odessa, that would have more impact elsewhere.
Yeah I work in IT with a Russian team (Im not in Russia) and a sht load of them have set up companies in Serbia and Montenegro etc to keep working with the US and UK etc So I guess there are ways and means to bypass the sanctions etc but it fking sucks having to uproot from your own country. I guess Putin might have to do something if they are loosing the high tech workforce? IT, Lawyers, Journalists etc
This is what it sounds like. Allow Putin to slaughter as many as required, possibly using chemical weapons along the way to expedite the conclusion.
Yeah a feint would make more sense, I can't believe they'd do something so senseless, despite all the evidence of the past few weeks.
...because Ukraine is not a real country anyway
There are only a handful of journalists left in Russia (probably only the staff of Novaya Gazeta), the rest are propaganda workers that aren't going anywhere and lawyers are not what you think that they are in a country where less than 1% of cases end up in acquittal. As for IT — yeah, they've introduced some tax cuts for the companies, I believe, and they also wanted to expel IT workers from the mandatory conscription. Somehow I'm not sure that it's going to be enough.
Stop this insane scaremongering. Russia is not ending the world over an economic crash.
should the ukraine surrender at this stage?
Its clear they are only going to get their country smashed and more people will die
Russia are not going to retreat that much is obvious
Its clear they are only going to get their country smashed and more people will die
Russia are not going to retreat that much is obvious
They don't intend to.