calodo2003
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What is that?
What is that?
biden is gambling on a regime change that could never happen or take years. both of which will only lead to more innocent deaths and a longer war.There is no peace available. Russia aren’t going to stop until they’ve taken eastern Ukraine, which they have no right to.
Hamstringing Russia is about the only option the west has and is doing (albeit not enough on some fronts)
Yes, the US is pushing for peace talks and peace talks are happening between Ukrainians and Russians. With no results. What else can the USA do to end this war now?the us should be pushing for peace talks. not crippling russian economy which does barely anything to end this war.
No they shouldn’t. They should be helping Ukraine in the way Ukraine wants to be helped, which is what they are currently doing.the us should be pushing for peace talks. not crippling russian economy which does barely anything to end this war.
The best way for less innocent deaths is for Russians to simply withdraw from Ukraine. The onus is on them, not the US. Why would we pressure Ukrainians to settle for an upalatable peace that dismembers their country and leaves people under Russian yoke? Putting peace above liberty is a fool’s errand.biden is gambling on a regime change that could never happen or take years. both of which will only lead to more innocent deaths and a longer war.
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I don't know the Greek Communists. Apparently, they are on their own in the EP. When I say the Left I mean this group here ( GUE/NGL). The only party from Greece in this group is Syriza. Not saying they are good, but it is still somewhat "normal" politicians that are representing these parties (I don't like them, Most are against NATO and against the integrated Union, they want less EU). Apparently, that Irish nutter is totally accepted in GUE/NGL through her Irish party called I4C.Not true, I'm afraid. For example, in Greece the Communist Party gets about 5%. This is about constant since the 1990s. There are many stalinists in this party. They have some MEPs, they are usually against everything that says "West".
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IMO all bets should be off now if confirmed true.
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As long as we don't repeat Obama''s 'red lines' hollow threat in SyriaIMO all bets should be off now if confirmed true.
What would your solution be?biden is gambling on a regime change that could never happen or take years. both of which will only lead to more innocent deaths and a longer war.
gambling on regime change as a strategy is stupid. because it isn’t a sure shot and the guy replacing putin won’t be a peace loving leader. it could also mess things up more and push the country further into despair.What would your solution be?
Peace talks aren't going to work unless Putin and his cronies are ousted. How can you have peace talks with a country commiting needless genocide, not just commited by those most blood thirsty but encouraged by those at the top. When even Putin openly is saying Ukraine shouldn't exist, peace is out the window.
If Russia withdraw's and Ukraine pushes into Russia, that's a completely different story and one I'd expect the US to push for peace.
Not when Ukraine are fighting for freedom and peace with Russia's terms would be rewarding evil giving them full incentive to do this with other countries and more of Ukraine in the future.
feck.
Where did you get this info? From the article? Because it doesn't say any of what you are claiming. I'm far from a N-VA fan; but that's just not true.Tweet
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In Belgium, the Federal Government is opposing the EU's call on Russian-gas. Not because they are against it. But because the opposition party N-VA, which leads the regional government in Flanders is blocking it. And in reality the N-VA is only opposing this to sabotage the Federal government. (N-VA is like the SNP of Belgium, indy this indy that, only far more to the right than SNP, and far more nonesense populism)
Worrying about what might happen when we already know exactly what is happening is stupid. You should probably stop reading whatever Russian fan pages you've been on.gambling on regime change as a strategy is stupid. because it isn’t a sure shot and the guy replacing putin won’t be a peace loving leader. it could also mess things up more and push the country further into despair.
we already know what happens when we topple one dictator with no strategy in place. iraq is a good example.Worrying about what might happen when we already know exactly what is happening is stupid. You should probably stop reading whatever Russian fan pages you've been on.
So then what is your solution? You say the US should push for peace talks and I do not disagree with the idea that everyone should hope for an end to war and death. But to what end? What should Ukraine be willing to concede?we already know what happens when we topple one dictator with no strategy in place. iraq is a good example.
The situations are not remotely comparable but good effort.we already know what happens when we topple one dictator with no strategy in place. iraq is a good example.
What an anology. Wow.we already know what happens when we topple one dictator with no strategy in place. iraq is a good example.
how about we start with not repeating the same mistakes? that is a good policy start. unfortunately, we see nothing of that. and history keeps repeating itself.So then what is your solution? You say the US should push for peace talks and I do not disagree with the idea that everyone should hope for an end to war and death. But to what end? What should Ukraine be willing to concede?
So, what do you suggest?how about we start with not repeating the same mistakes? that is a good policy start. unfortunately, we see nothing of that. and history keeps repeating itself.
Do you not understand how vastly different the situations are though? Like, really? For one, the dictator in this case isn't just minding his own business oppressing his own people, and the illegal war wasn't started by the democracy. For another nobody is sending any troops into Russia, except perhaps if they're shooting at Ukrainian territory. It will have to be an internal revolution if he's to be toppled.how about we start with not repeating the same mistakes? that is a good policy start. unfortunately, we see nothing of that. and history keeps repeating itself.
This and the other article linked there.Where did you get this info? From the article? Because it doesn't say any of what you are claiming. I'm far from a N-VA fan; but that's just not true.
That's not what I asked. You say Ukraine should sue for peace,, so what should they concede for that peace?how about we start with not repeating the same mistakes? that is a good policy start. unfortunately, we see nothing of that. and history keeps repeating itself.
The US is not omnipotent; we cannot decide for the Ukrainians whether they should keep fighting and dying or give Russia whatever they want.how about we start with not repeating the same mistakes? that is a good policy start. unfortunately, we see nothing of that. and history keeps repeating itself.
and that could take forever or it could never happen. and in the meantime, more innocent people will get killed.Do you not understand how vastly different the situations are though? Like, really? For one, the dictator in this case isn't just minding his own business oppressing his own people, and the illegal war wasn't started by the democracy. For another nobody is sending any troops into Russia, except perhaps if they're shooting at Ukrainian territory. It will have to be an internal revolution if he's to be toppled.
But that's going to be entirely the mutual choice of the Russians and Ukrainians. So absolutely nothing like Iraq in any way.and that could take forever or it could never happen. and in the meantime, more innocent people will get killed.
So what should Ukraine concede in peace talks that they're not already conceding? They've already said (if I recall correctly) they're willing to accept pre-invasion borders and neutrality.and that could take forever or it could never happen. and in the meantime, more innocent people will get killed.
So should Ukraine just surrender their land to end the war? Give up their own people so we can see Bucha on an industrial scale?and that could take forever or it could never happen. and in the meantime, more innocent people will get killed.
how about we start with not repeating the same mistakes? that is a good policy start. unfortunately, we see nothing of that. and history keeps repeating itself.