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You constantly refer to fans being positive about Ronaldo as this fanboy cult/Ronaldo FC bollocks. You do realise he's been utd's best player this season? Fans support their star players. It's like trying to belittle a fan for supporting their own club. It's a bizarre and weird outlook to have.
This is a little hate cult in here, very passionate about Ronaldo being the problem and has caused a rift in the dressing room.
Yep, agree with every point.
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Yes it is, for next season anyway.
This is such a lazy narrative to have, instead of it’s only one more year of his contract left after scoring 21 goals (so far) it’s “building a team around”. We are already 3/4 strikers down for various reasons Ronaldo is least of our worries at the minute.
Nonsense. All absolute nonsense. He agreed with what Blatter said, that United should allow him to leave. For me, he’s entitled to do that as a kid from the Iberian Peninsula who doubtless dreamt of playing for Real all his life. He never ever said anything about slavery, and if he did feel that way, would have celebrated like a madman when he scored against us in 2013. Fergie has also never had a bad word to say about him, and knowing the man, he would have annihilated Ronaldo if he did say that.
Of the top of my head I can name 3-4 names on here that form the little Ronaldo dislike club on here.
His goals have come in a small number of games though so have contributed to us winning a smaller number of points than they might have if spread out
Indeed you are correct, though most of his goals have been match winning ones so that might counter balance that.
On the other hand there was that statistic posted here about a month ago about how many of Ronaldo's goals were winners, equalisers or openers and almost none were stat padding, almost all of his goals have gained us points.
Outside of the fanboys/anti circus I think there's a lot of frustration. I can relate because we pretty much live the same thing at PSG with Messi (bar the nostalgia). You expect a player like Ronaldo to be consistent, to crank up your team and to be a special player. The thing is, he's not anymore and a hat trick against Norwich won't change that (the same way that Messi delivering 3 assists last week didn't change the fact that his season is bad). So if he didn't make United competitive this season and considering the fact that you can't build around him because of his age, what's the point of him being here with the best salary in the country?
I'm not saying it completely cancels it out for Ronaldo and Messi, but you can't just look at their wages and say this is how much they're costing the club, their commercial value clearly offsets their wages to an extent, and neither us nor psg are paying half a million a week just for Ronaldo and Messi the players, they're paying that for the brand and sponsors are likely to pay a bit more with the two most famous footballers in the world on our respective teams. Like i said it probably won't cancel out their wages entirely but it does reduce the net amount we're paying for each
I have loved the Ronaldo return this season. The one bright spot in an otherwise dull season.
An hattrick against Norwhich? As if it was some dead rubber game. Ronaldo got us winning points. Go check on stats on how man winning goals he has scored this season. Trust me, most fans here love what he has done this season overall. Were it not for him, we wouldn't even make it to the CL knockout round. We wouldn't be anywhere near top 4 as well.
There's a chance this works in his favour, although I haven't personally ran the numbers. It's better to score twice to win 1 and not score in the next game to lose 1, than it is to score only once in 2 games and draw both. I think also, this is how most strikers play. Berba scored like this when he was our top scorer and we won the league that season.
I don't see why he can't be viewed as a good stop gap for parts of the rebuild. The squad has some very big problems. Having Ronaldo around for a year or two while the new manager sorts out our horrendous full back options and defensive midfield issues is not a bad thing and we're already desperately short of attacking options.
Just mentioned it in a different thread but ideally that would be exactly what we would do. Even if we sign a new CF as planned, having Ronaldo in the squad makes sense as we're thin on options and he can obviously still score goals.
We won the league that season with Berba but we also had Rooney and hernandez. Berba wasn't even on the bench for the cl final.
Such an ABU article. People initially thought he would be a disaster. Now he is only 2 goals short of Salah , they are changing the narrative now. He is a great player but blah blah.
Its up to ETH to decide if he wants to or if hed rather build towards the future
Stop gap stop gaps. Ibrahimovic, Cavani, Ronaldo how many do we need?
Is every striker not "an eventual 38 year-old"?
It doesn't have to be "built around" him tbf.
He’ll he 38 next season. He’ll demand to play every game and not he subsituted. He’ll when he benched for a big game have his people put out stories to undermine the manager. These things have all happened this season.
Know him well do you?
Know what we have seen this season. I also know what I saw happen when he wasn’t selected in the starting 11 vs City
considering how terrible some areas of our squad are and how urgently they need fixing i'd say a stop gap here or there wouldn't be too bad. If Ronaldo is here next year and the transfer money is invested in getting full backs that are good and a defensive midfielder then i'd be very happy to have Ronaldo here for another season.
Not ibrahimovic, he is a former 38 year old
It would be bad if it doesn’t fit with how we want to play
He was also at his peak in 2007-2009 in Manchester United and he only managed to score one hattrick.
He wasn’t near his goalscoring peak in those years. He played more as an orthodox winger.
