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So is nobody watching this show? It's one of the best TV shows right now. Would be surprised if they don't sweep the awards.


Here's the trailer.
 

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It's been discussed a bit in the Recommend A TV Show thread but yeah, it's been fantastic, especially the last two episodes. Just seen that it's been renewed for a second season.

I could watch a spin-off of Irv and Burt all day long... :D
 

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It is pretty good. Also got renewed for the second season. Season finale is next week.
 

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Watched the first episode but felt no desire to carry on. Just seemed a bit lifeless.
 

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It's brilliant. One of those shows you really look forward to week on week.

Although I'll watch John Turturro in anything!
 

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Finished the 4th episode last night. I can see why it wouldn't be for everyone but I'm engrossed. Love weird dystopian sci fi shit. I need to know what they're doing goddamnit!
 

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Not seen it yet, but it's definitely on my list.
 

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That finale. Holy shit.
 

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Watched the first episode. It hasn't really grabbed me yet but I remain intrigued and will go back to it. The cast is great and the production quality is top notch as you'd expect from Apple TV plus
 

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What.A.Finale! Abso-fecking-lotuely the best one I have seen in years. I was on the edge every single second of it.

To all those who have stopped watching after a few episodes, this is definitely the show to stick with it. Give it till 7 episodes at least. if you are not in by then then quit!
 

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Incredible finale and one of the best, most intense tv episodes I’ve seen in years.

best new show of the year so far, easily. And one of my favourite shows in a while.

hopefully the wait for season two isn’t massive :(
 

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Incredible finale. I don’t think I’ve ever been on the side of the protagonists so much in a show before - edge of my seat throughout and almost whooped a few times :lol:
Yeah Adam Scott is great. You care about both Mark's as different people and root for both of them.
 

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Incredible finale and one of the best, most intense tv episodes I’ve seen in years.

best new show of the year so far, easily. And one of my favourite shows in a while.

hopefully the wait for season two isn’t massive :(
Unfortunately it is going to be. Stiller said he was *hopeful* that production would start by the end of 2022, they probably are going to need time till then to close the scripts. And in general shows now days take 1 year+ in post production. So best case you are looking at Nov/Dec 2023 and more likely March 2024.

Show needed to be renewed by the time it started airing for the next season to air at similar time as S1 in 2023.
 

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Unfortunately it is going to be. Stiller said he was *hopeful* that production would start by the end of 2022, they probably are going to need time till then to close the scripts. And in general shows now days take 1 year+ in post production. So best case you are looking at Nov/Dec 2023 and more likely March 2024.

Show needed to be renewed by the time it started airing for the next season to air at similar time as S1 in 2023.
That sucks. It's been a massive hit for Apple though so hopefully they move it on at a good pace.
 

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That was so good. I googled Severance season 2 a few days and saw that it hadn't yet been renewed, so I thought maybe it was a one-and-done thing. Very glad to be proved wrong.
 

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Good finale, but they shouldn’t do another season. Seen too many miniseries lose their luster after a solid season.
 

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The novelty will wear off. This was a good one off.
Do you mean that they should end it now after that finale, or that it should have been written as a miniseries from the start? The latter is a reasonable opinion but the former is ludicrous. That would be one of the most unsatisfying series finales of all time.
 

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Just watched the last two episodes. Holy shit. That was fantastic TV. People weren’t lying when they said it was edge of your seat stuff. Immense.
 

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The novelty will wear off. This was a good one off.
I used to hold you in so high regard.

And in general shows now days take 1 year+ in post production.
I don't think this is accurate, is it? It may be accurate for a first season, and it was definitely more accurate during Covid, but I don't think it's any kind of general rule. Plenty of popular TV series have yearly seasons. I wouldn't be at all surprised if we get season 2 of Severance in early 2023.
 

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Just binged it. Absolutely brilliant show on several levels. It is rare that they found a novel concept that provokes philosophical / ethical dilemas, and they also executed it flawlessly. The closest I can think of with the same attention to detail is Westworld season 1.
 

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Just binged it. Absolutely brilliant show on several levels. It is rare that they found a novel concept that provokes philosophical / ethical dilemas, and they also executed it flawlessly. The closest I can think of with the same attention to detail is Westworld season 1.
Next season you should try not to binge it, it's somehow even better that way. So much room for debate and closer looks at every little thing. I've been using the subreddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SeveranceAppleTVPlus/
 

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Next season you should try not to binge it, it's somehow even better that way. So much room for debate and closer looks at every little thing. I've been using the subreddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SeveranceAppleTVPlus/
I am gonna go off the bat and state what associations the inworld invokes in me. Something Orwellian in the interactions and especially the break room. All the procedures and documentations without the corporeligious shite - the Dharma initiative from Lost. The white color and hallways - Portal the video game, weirdly.
 

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Just finished this today. Thoroughly enjoyable yet highly frustrating at the same time. That finale? Hurts how they left us hanging for the second season.
Feck off what a tease, to wait over a year to get closure. Some like it that way, I just don't. If I knew it ended that way, I'd rather wait till the entire series was complete to start watching it. May have to revert back to that method, recently I've given series with 1 season a shot, and this reminded me exactly why I don't like to do it.
Oh well, will just have to forget about it for probably over a year.

Regardless, brilliant thought concept and had me wanting more and more, which I suppose is why I feel let down with the finale.
 

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One of the frustrations I had with it:

Why the feck did they just do whatever they said? Like the break room was this massive "scary" thing? Seriously?? I wanted to know what they would do if the just refused to repeat that ridiculous apology. Probably shut them down or something but then family members would come asking where's their loved ones. So that really irritated me a bit.
 

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Yeah the lack of closure is annoying in TV series these days, almost as if things are being deliberately written to bait a second series commission … however it was a really good show in all, and I guess it could’ve ended on a much more unsatisfying note - though it was frustrating as hell how none of them seemed remotely urgent to carry out their missions as soon as the “awoke” … just kind of ambling about for an hour whilst Dylan held the switches! :lol:… (obviosily it was necessary to build up the tension, but, you know…)

It was a good concept, and nicely pitched somewhere between a Black Mirror, a Wes Anderson and a Charlie Kaufman. Just absurd enough to cover the holes in logic, but straight enough to feel like there were stakes. Plus I did not think the fictional relationship I would be most invested in in 2022 would be between Christopher Walken and John Turturro. They both played it delightfully.
 

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One of the frustrations I had with it:

Why the feck did they just do whatever they said? Like the break room was this massive "scary" thing? Seriously?? I wanted to know what they would do if the just refused to repeat that ridiculous apology. Probably shut them down or something but then family members would come asking where's their loved ones. So that really irritated me a bit.
They're not fully formed people, basically. All they know is the company.

Also, as to your question, there is that scene where outie Mark's knuckles are sore and bloody.
 

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They're not fully formed people, basically. All they know is the company.

Also, as to your question, there is that scene where outie Mark's knuckles are sore and bloody.
But if we see the kind of resistance that Helly had, then naturally they have a understanding something is messed up about the place, so not sure what other kind of formation they would need to have.

And that further messes things up, because their explanations are so crap and the outies just accept it as fact when it makes no sense whatsoever. Oh well, I suppose just have to suspend some critical thinking at some points.
 
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But they are fully formed aren't they? Just with memories removed? So essentially, their education is probably the same, as are their ideals and thought process, even if they don't actually know where or how they've formed this... so that creates a separate entity, which builds it's own separate mindset from there on.

I dunno, it's a mad ass show. But I enjoyed it.
 

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But they are fully formed aren't they? Just with memories removed? So essentially, their education is probably the same, as are their ideals and thought process, even if they don't actually know where or how they've formed this... so that creates a separate entity, which builds it's own separate mindset from there on.

I dunno, it's a mad ass show. But I enjoyed it.
Ms Casey says that her entire lifespan is 108 hours, and I think that definitely contributes to her weirdness. You also have Burt being basically a Lumon acolyte on the inside (stickler for the rules, knowing the company handbook by heart and citing it as some would the bible), while on the outside he's definitely working against Lumon in some way. And Dylan thinks he's probably having a wild sex life on the outside, probably because he often gets the waffle parties (read: orgies) on the inside. But the best example is maybe how they treat the book they find. It's obviously the most banal, pseudo-philosophical stuff, but they all treat it as if it's the word of the most insightful man in the world. Because they have nothing to compare it to (except the equally banal Kier stuff, which is far more authoritarian). When Innie Mark goes to find someone he can talk to ("who you think you can trust"), he picks his hero, Ricken.

They're not completely fresh or anything, but their understanding of reality is limited. Helly is different, I wouldn't put it past her to do all of this on purpose from day 1. She came in with a very strong rejection of the company.
 
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