Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

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Interesting article about gas imports from Russia and Ukraine's opinion on it: https://www.reuters.com/business/en...ssian-nord-stream-1-gas-shipments-2022-04-20/

They don't lobby for a stop of imports, but they want to convince Europe to switch to Ukrainian pipelines, which would mean Russia would have to pay (more) transit fees to Ukraine and also motivate Russia to keep the pipeline infrastructure safe.

The story of smoothly working gas export and transit during this war is really fascinating...

Russia pays Ukraine to be able to get money from Europe while they are fighting a war against each other.
 

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Raoul said:
Wow. That's Medvedev, Rublev (both top 10 players) and Khachanov out of Wimbledon this year. Not sure if I agree with this one.

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Those affiliated with the government or otherwise linked to Putin's power structure, I would agree with. Random athletes getting sanctioned just because Russia happens to be their country of birth wouldn't really accomplish anything imo. Medvedev seems like a very level headed guy from what I've seen.
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They have been doing this throughout the whole war. Other Russian athletes have been kicked out. its a case by case basis dependent on the sport and what they choose to do. This is probably more notable as they are some of the top players. Imagine if Sharapova was still good
 

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Stacks said:
They have been doing this throughout the whole war. Other Russian athletes have been kicked out. its a case by case basis dependent on the sport and what they choose to do. This is probably more notable as they are some of the top players. Imagine if Sharapova was still good
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Shes been resident in the USA since 1994 so she would have just taken US citizenship I think...
 

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You can't have dual citizenship if you go US so would lose Russian
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She would do that if at the height of her career I think

Also I think she can have 2 citizenships under both us and russian law

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How can a Russian citizen obtain second citizenship?
* The United States, Cyprus, Australia and the United Kingdom are countries that officially allow the second citizenship.
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https://www.vorotagoroda.com/en/rus...ion allows a dual,it was obtained before 2015.
 

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Stacks said:
You can't have dual citizenship if you go US so would lose Russian
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You can have dual citizenship with the US but you have to declare it your primary residence and pay taxes on earnings made outside the US.
 

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The Russians have given up on the idea of trying to storm the Azovstal steel plant in Mariupol and will now try to surround it so that no Ukrainian fighters can escape. At the same time they claim to have to taken the city and will hold a "victory" parade there on May 9th.

Several things strike me as problematic for the Russians here:

1) Sealing off an 8 mile perimeter around the steel plant (which is 4 square miles in size), 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, is going to tie up a lot of troops.

2) The Ukrainians defenders (more than 2,000 apparently) could strike at the perimeter at almost any point, at any time of their choosing. I would think it'd be impossible to make an 8 mile perimeter strong enough at every point to potentially repel an attack by, say, 1,000 soldiers.

3) It's a hollow claim to say you have taken a city when 2,000+ enemy soldiers remain active inside it.

4) A "victory" parade through a city that's been reduced to rubble does not sound like good optics to me.

5) How many troops will they need to guard their "victory" parade lest it come under attack? I'd suggest to the Russians that they don't broadcast it live on Russian TV.
 

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Raoul said:
Moans about NATO but has multiple vacation homes within NATO territory.
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And due to sanctions he can't go there at the moment. He needs the Russian army to occupy Europe to be able to access his property again :lol:
 

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The BBC reports:

"In his update at the White House, US President Joe Biden also says the US is banning Russian-affiliated ships from its ports, in a move to "ratchet up the pressure on Putin".

"No ship that sails under the Russian flag, or that is owned or operated by Russian interests, will be able to dock in a US port or access our shores. None, none," he says."
 

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And Azarenka and Sabalenka out from the women's side
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I think if they publically denounce the war they should play. They won’t but at least we should give them that option rather than just say you are Russian and therefore evil. We should make it clear this isn’t about being Russian it is about Putin and give all players a choice.
 

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It seems that Ukraine is fighting against the time here with these trainings/weapon deliveries into the battlefield.
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I think if they publically denounce the war they should play. They won’t but at least we should give them that option rather than just say you are Russian and therefore evil. We should make it clear this isn’t about being Russian it is about Putin and give all players a choice.
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They had 2 months for that, seemingly, no one did.
 

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Just a little evidence that China will back Russia when it comes down to it. It's about authoritarian regimes working together to resist western pressure to be ethical.

 

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Rajma said:
It seems that Ukraine is fighting against the time here with these trainings/weapon deliveries into the battlefield.

They had 2 months for that, seemingly, no one did.
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Athletes have short careers, they’ve already missed yearly tournaments due to covid and Medvedev, in particular, actually has a good chance to win Wimbledon. I get they haven’t so far but they’ve not needed to, now there’s an actual tournament on the line it might prompt them to speak out.
 

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nimic said:
Who is that guy, and what makes him an expert?

I'm just weary of our use of twitter threads from random people as sources of information. If they're an analyst or some other kind of expert, sure.
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He's an Italian cyclist wearing an Assos jacket. If that doesn't make him an expert, I don't know what else to say

(So many bots on Twitter, it's not even funny).
 

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frostbite said:
Or perhaps he acts in a very selfish way, as usually happens with Germans. If Americans and Poland and the English can help Ukraine win, then fine, Germany also helped sending those helmets. If the Russians win, then again fine, Germans can still get Russian gas and resume economic relations with Russia. Yes, it is true that Ukrainians die every day, but do Germans care? (Of course they do, they care and they send thoughts and prayers! )
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Unlike the selfless Greeks ;-)
 

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tomaldinho1 said:
I think if they publically denounce the war they should play. They won’t but at least we should give them that option rather than just say you are Russian and therefore evil. We should make it clear this isn’t about being Russian it is about Putin and give all players a choice.
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Did Wimbledon adopt the same policy same towards American players when Dubya illegally invaded Iraq? Did they feck?
 

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Mariupol will still be falling in a month’s time at this rate. We still have at least one poster every day telling us that it looks like the end is near:

 

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TMDaines said:
Mariupol will still be falling in a month’s time at this rate. We still have at least one poster every day telling us that it looks like the end is near:

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Putin sits like he's holding in a huge shit.
 

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Raoul said:
If only there were a dedicated thread to discuss such topics.
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Come on Raoul, we're discussing the absurdity of sanctions on a bunch of Russian/Belarussian tennis players as a result of Putin's invasion of Ukraine.

I thought the goal of sanctions is to make Putin's war more difficult to wage, and don't see how banning tennis players who don't even compete under the Russian flag accomplishes that.
 
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