Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?

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I don’t rate him, and glad that we are going to have a new manager.

But, our players fail at the basics. The first goal today is an example. This has pre-dated RR and I’m afraid that it will continue after he’s gone.
Yeah he didn't create all the problems but fixed very little. We don't concede more than 3
 

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Well a total rebuild isn't practical and won't be happening so best to make our peace with that. Luckily going off the reports of Ten Hag's vision for United he doesn't think the drastic rebuild Rangnick keeps referring to is necessary.
I mean it literally already is happening, we've just sacked our two chief scouts and appointed our first ever DoF, Woodward's gone and we'll have at the very least 6 outgoings in summer. The club is going through drastic change.
 

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What I will say is that I think his substitutions are absolutely appalling, when was the last time a Rashford, Lingard or Mata substitution changed the game? Dreadful.
 

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There's no manager available who could have given a big club like United a bounce as interim manager? So if another club had to fire their manager in December, they wouldn't have found anyone that could have done a good job?
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Must be baffling as a Real fan to read this thread. One crap excuse after another for a manager so out of his depth. Genuinely envy the ruthlessness your fans and board show towards players and managers who aren't good enough. Meanwhile at United we vigorously defend managers who win 4 out of 10 games.
 

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He just seems a genuinely bad manager and, probably most concerningly given his consultancy role, I’m not convinced by his judgement of players.

Dalot delivered a genuinely 1/10 display on Tuesday - he was the worst player on the pitch by a mile and that’s despite most of our team being awful. In contrast, AWB had a very good second half particularly. Somehow that translates to Dalot starting today and immediately gifting them a goal by falling asleep at the back post. Unless AWB was injured, that type of management decision is simply impossible to explain.
 

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A bit short sighted don't you think? Ralf came Into the club when moral was at rock bottom. The players didn't buy into his philosophy because he actually tried to instill a work ethic more in line with professional players. They downed tools completely. Any manager is in an impossible situation in cases like these.

On the plus side. It's now out in the open just how gutless the squad is mainly down to Ralf expressing what all of us are thinking. That alone was worth bringing him in for. This whole cultural reboot idea has to be shredded and restarted from zero. Ralf has experience in abundance in building teams. In fact hes the only man at the club that does so what makes you think he'd be a failure?
Its not so shortsighted when you look at the results. Solskjaer won 54% of his matches here, Rangnick has won 40%. So basically, that's a dramatic worsening of results following a manager who was sacked. Conte has won 57% and is taking club to the CL next year.

Rangnick doesn't deserve an iota of respect or patience for making us worse than we were under Solskjaer. Blaming the players is also pointless since Conte has vastly outperformed Rangnick with less quality.
 

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What I will say is that I think his substitutions are absolutely appalling, when was the last time a Rashford, Lingard or Mata substitution changed the game? Dreadful.
Ermmm against Norwich. Or did you conveniently forget about that game?!
 

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:lol:

Must be baffling as a Real fan to read this thread. One crap excuse after another for a manager so out of his depth. Genuinely envy the ruthlessness your fans and board show towards players and managers who aren't good enough. Meanwhile at United we vigorously defend managers who win 4 out of 10 games.
He's gone in 4 games, who cares?
 

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I’ve got to the point with Rangnick where I think he’s purposely playing the same team over and over again just to emphasise how shite the players are, and the need for a major overhaul. I can’t understand why he’s playing the same 14 or so players. We aren’t getting top 4. Let’s stop using players who aren’t going to be here next season, give more youngsters their debuts. Seasons a write off, and going into Europa or the Papa Johns Trophy equivalent will only hinder progress next season.
 

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This mush is surely employed by a rival. Everything he says and does is absolutely wrong. Sounds defeated before every match, talks as if we should be one of the up and down relegation teams. He's just shite.
 

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Well a total rebuild isn't practical and won't be happening so best to make our peace with that. Luckily going off the reports of Ten Hag's vision for United he doesn't think the drastic rebuild Rangnick keeps referring to is necessary.
Exactly! No team had a "total rebuild", it is pointless to expect this.

Anyway, most of us agreed that Ole was not a good manager. What did RR improve? I cannot see any real improvements either in defense or in attack. What did he do all these months? Is there any different than having Carrick or Giggs as interim manager?
 

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What I will say is that I think his substitutions are absolutely appalling, when was the last time a Rashford, Lingard or Mata substitution changed the game? Dreadful.
Sure, but there are no other players left mate..
 

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Ermmm against Norwich. Or did you conveniently forget about that game?!
What, the game we won with a Ronaldo hat trick with assists by Elanga and Telles who all started the game? Yeah real difference makers there.
 

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Outside of involving Elanga I don't think he has made a brave selection as Utd manager.
 

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What, the game we won with a Ronaldo hat trick with assists by Elanga and Telles who all started the game? Yeah real difference makers there.
If you judge who has an impact based purely on goals and assists then you don’t understand football.
 

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Its not so shortsighted when you look at the results. Solskjaer won 54% of his matches here, Rangnick has won 40%. So basically, that's a dramatic worsening of results following a manager who was sacked. Conte has won 57% and is taking club to the CL next year.

Rangnick doesn't deserve an iota of respect or patience for making us worse than we were under Solskjaer. Blaming the players is also pointless since Conte has vastly outperformed Rangnick with less quality.
See your point on Conte but isn’t he going to demand 28/30 year old ready made superstars, then leave us in a big mess? That’s what he’s always done. Personally I don’t think Conte was the answer but there were a lot better options than getting Rangnick in as the head coach. If you want Rangnick in as a DOF give him that role immediately, why give him a different role prior to that appointment? Yet another ridiculous decision by the club.
 

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What I will say is that I think his substitutions are absolutely appalling, when was the last time a Rashford, Lingard or Mata substitution changed the game? Dreadful.
He's taking the piss. 3 players that should/are leaving in the summer and he keeps on using them. He talks the logical game but when it comes to it..
 

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This mush is surely employed by a rival. Everything he says and does is absolutely wrong. Sounds defeated before every match, talks as if we should be one of the up and down relegation teams. He's just shite.
He's been talking a scary amount of sense and truth? He's flopped on the pitch, but the stuff he's said has been exactly what needed to be said the majority of the time.
 

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Just a terrible manager all round. He has no fight, no heart and its rubbed off on the team.
 

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Scholes mentioned on TV that Lingard had told him the morale in the dressing room right now is abysmal apparently
It doesn't take a genius to work that out.

Thats where our interim manager has failed. Miserably. His cold german style of assessment/management has completely flopped.

He isn't klopp or tuchel who are both insanely passionate and man managers at the heart of it all.

This guy is a wheeler dealer type. The german harry redknapp without the stories or the humour.
 

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He just seems a genuinely bad manager and, probably most concerningly given his consultancy role, I’m not convinced by his judgement of players.

Dalot delivered a genuinely 1/10 display on Tuesday - he was the worst player on the pitch by a mile and that’s despite most of our team being awful. In contrast, AWB had a very good second half particularly. Somehow that translates to Dalot starting today and immediately gifting them a goal by falling asleep at the back post. Unless AWB was injured, that type of management decision is simply impossible to explain.
Yup, that has always been my concern. People pointed out how he built a club etc.

We are not building any club here and we are nothing like any other club as well. The problem has always been about the upper management not being competent. A lowly position such as a consultant role would not change anything.

It sounded like he was not even sure if he would be used as he would like to be next season.

That being said, it was not exactly his fault that he was hired like this. You would just be worried about the so-called new upper management which decided that it was a good idea to do it.
 

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Its not so shortsighted when you look at the results. Solskjaer won 54% of his matches here, Rangnick has won 40%. So basically, that's a dramatic worsening of results following a manager who was sacked. Conte has won 57% and is taking club to the CL next year.

Rangnick doesn't deserve an iota of respect or patience for making us worse than we were under Solskjaer. Blaming the players is also pointless since Conte has vastly outperformed us with less quality.

Exactly! No team had a "total rebuild", it is pointless to expect this.

Anyway, most of us agreed that Ole was not a good manager. What did RR improve? I cannot see any real improvements either in defense or in attack. What did he do all these months? Is there any different than having Carrick or Giggs as interim manager?
you’re missing the point, Ralf was never brought in to desperately steer this lot to top four, it would have been a nice bonus, of course.. but he’s here to look at the club as a whole, work with the team directly and assess everything with absolutely no bias.. then report back to the long term manager and move upstairs where he can make real lasting changes to the structure. he’s literally telling you that in his press conferences.
 

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These results are nothing to do with Ralf. It’s the unprofessional mentality that has crept in from the previous regime.

We could have easily beaten Arse today.
 

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Don't get why he persists with the same shit every week. Play some youngsters from the academy and try something new. The season has been over a long time ago it's not like we will lose anything. Have some balls ffs.

These lot don't care and don't want to play for us but he keeps on playing them
Its to late for that, he should done that 2-3 games after he joined. Now he just keeps those cnuts on a light, with no place to hide.
 

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It doesn't take a genius to work that out.

Thats where our interim manager has failed. Miserably. His cold german style of assessment/management has completely flopped.

He isn't klopp or tuchel who are both insanely passionate and man managers at the heart of it all.

This guy is a wheeler dealer type. The german harry redknapp without the stories or the humour.
He’s not a day to day manager and it was daft to make him one and not make him DOF right away instead. However, the players don’t have any pride in the shirt or are even prepared to run and fight for their own careers, how do you work with that?
 

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you’re missing the point, Ralf was never brought in to desperately steer this lot to top four, it would have been a nice bonus, of course.. but he’s here to look at the club as a whole, work with the team directly and assess everything with absolutely no bias.. then report back to the long term manager and move upstairs where he can make real lasting changes to the structure. he’s literally telling you that in his press conferences.
That's still not a valid reason to bring him in as manager, given that literally any number of other options would've outperformed him and led as to a CL spot given the players we have.
 

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He just seems a genuinely bad manager and, probably most concerningly given his consultancy role, I’m not convinced by his judgement of players.

Dalot delivered a genuinely 1/10 display on Tuesday - he was the worst player on the pitch by a mile and that’s despite most of our team being awful. In contrast, AWB had a very good second half particularly. Somehow that translates to Dalot starting today and immediately gifting them a goal by falling asleep at the back post. Unless AWB was injured, that type of management decision is simply impossible to explain.
Defensevly both Dalot and Telles are genuine contenders for worst full backs in the league, yet he uses them as much as possible.
Terrible, terrible manager give Ralf 3 years as a manager and we are relegation material.
 
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