Ronaldo asked Bruno to take the penalty

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Thought this deserved a thread if its own because not everybody’s aware of it.

French TV showed a replay where Ronaldo asked Bruno to take the penalty. I can understand him after the week he’s had, even though he was our best player today.

In my opinion this should have been decided before the game not during.
 

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Do they know that’s for sure what he said? He might’ve told him to make sure he doesn’t hit the post
 

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After the week he’s had it’s understandable that Ronaldo didn’t want to take it. I felt that the moment it was awarded. More pressure than he can cope with right now.

Unfortunately, we haven’t got any other players who can cope with it either.
 

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That just makes it feel even worse to be honest.
 

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Ok fair enough. Ronnie's had a tough time. Shame Bruno missed, but hey.
 

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Thought this deserved a thread if its own because not everybody’s aware of it.

French TV showed a replay where Ronaldo asked Bruno to take the penalty. I can understand him after the week he’s had, even though he was our best player today.

In my opinion this should have been decided before the game not during
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In all likelihood it was, but somewhere in the middle of a high pressure situation something changed, which would be completely understandable.
 

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I may be in the minority here but I didn't have a problem with Bruno taking the penalty and even though he missed it these things can happen.

It was Bruno's overall performance that was the real problem.
 

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I thought he looked nervous as feck before the kick. I even said out loud at the time that it looked like he was going to miss the target.

It's easy to say this in hindsight, but maybe if they'd come to the arrangement pre-match, Bruno might have been a bit more relaxed when he stepped up.

Oh, well.
 

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I may be in the minority here but I didn't have a problem with Bruno taking the penalty and even though he missed it these things can happen.

It was Bruno's overall performance that was the real problem.
Agree with this, Bruno has a great pen record. Shame he missed but let's move on.
 

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Bruno is an exceptional penalty taker

He missed, it happens, in the grand scheme of things it was a minor issue
So according to Transfermarkt, who only include in-match penalties, the following have such conversion rates:
  • Bruno 88.1%
  • Jorghino 86.3%
  • Kane 86.2%
  • Salah 84.4%
  • Ronaldo 83.2%
 

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Never seen Bruno look so nervous before taking a penalty, puffing and blowing.. he wasn’t his usual calm concocted penalty taking self. He bottled it.
 

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Never seen Bruno look so nervous before taking a penalty, puffing and blowing.. he wasn’t his usual calm concocted penalty taking self. He bottled it.
I spotted this and said it to my mate he looked like he was afraid to take the penalty
 

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He was in the 90s up until this season as as well. He should never have been taken off them.
Nah. Even though I know the numbers, I would still have Ronaldo taking all the most important penalties. I suspect Bruno’s numbers in the most crucial situations would be lower than Ronaldo’s long term. Bruno feels the heat and breaks under pressure; Ronaldo doesn’t.
 

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I may be in the minority here but I didn't have a problem with Bruno taking the penalty and even though he missed it these things can happen.

It was Bruno's overall performance that was the real problem.
I don't have any issues with Bruno taking it. He rarely misses. It's one of those things when he is playing badly.
 

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Nah. Even though I know the numbers, I would still have Ronaldo taking all the most important penalties. I suspect Bruno’s numbers in the most crucial situations would be lower than Ronaldo’s long term. Bruno feels the heat and breaks under pressure; Ronaldo doesn’t.
This big name thing is a bit of a nonsense imo. It's the league so you want the person with the highest success rate on them and Arsenal away shouldn't be a big game anyway.

He was asked to take it at the last minute today which probably played into things.
 

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I thought he looked nervous as feck before the kick. I even said out loud at the time that it looked like he was going to miss the target.

It's easy to say this in hindsight, but maybe if they'd come to the arrangement pre-match, Bruno might have been a bit more relaxed when he stepped up.

Oh, well.
I think the last minute swap obviously heaped more stress on Bruno. But don’t blame Ronaldo. You could see how emotional he felt after scoring. Which must be why he didn’t fancy the pen. I don’t think he could have predicted that.
 

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Weird considering Roanldo was very sharp today. Good touches, nice link up play, had already scored a good goal. But also understandable if his mind just wasn’t in it.
 

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Nah. Even though I know the numbers, I would still have Ronaldo taking all the most important penalties. I suspect Bruno’s numbers in the most crucial situations would be lower than Ronaldo’s long term. Bruno feels the heat and breaks under pressure; Ronaldo doesn’t.
Didn’t catch our last CL win then?

They’re both excellent penalty takers. Who score them more than most other players. Neither of them have been up to their usual standards this season though. It obviously doesn’t help to have this uncertainty about who’s our number one. An issue that goes all the way back to their first game together.
 
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I may be in the minority here but I didn't have a problem with Bruno taking the penalty and even though he missed it these things can happen.

It was Bruno's overall performance that was the real problem.
Yeah same. Penalties get missed all the time and let's face it he misses less than most.

Performances are a worry though but he's carried us for a while now, so again he deserves a lot of leeway especially during this car crash of a season.

I hope the Bruno of old will be be back in August.
 

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Nobody is blaming Bruno for the miss.

It happens.
I am actually. If you do these silly steps and break concentration and skip and what not, and miss, you are in for deserved ridicule and laughter. Remember Simone Zaza? Jorginho has perfected the act and does it every time and hence he can skip, but Fernandes changes around because he’s nervous and then this happens. Concentrate and fecking hit the ball like Kane or Ronaldo, this penalty was the personification of Lingard’s fashion style.
 

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I am actually. If you do these silly steps and break concentration and skip and what not, and miss, you are in for deserved ridicule and laughter. Remember Simone Zaza? Jorginho has perfected the act and does it every time and hence he can skip, but Fernandes changes around because he’s nervous and then this happens. Concentrate and fecking hit the ball like Kane or Ronaldo, this penalty was the personification of Lingard’s fashion style.
Did you start watching Manchester United today?
 

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Over analysis of penalties are pointless. Sat the keeper on his arse, placed it a few inches wider than intended. It happens. 9/10 times, Bruno rolls it in the corner. Everyone needs to get a grip.

Also, Ramsdale…we’ve already seen what happened to Martinez this season. Reacting like that is proper small time for not even making a save.
 

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Makes sense.

It happens.

I wouldn't criticize Bruno for his pen miss. His performance though....
 

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Didn’t catch our last CL win then?

They’re both excellent penalty takers. Who score them more than most other players. Neither of them have been up to their usual standards this season though. It obviously doesn’t help to have this uncertainty about who’s our number one. An issue that goes all the way back to their first game together.
Ronaldo could miss the next big one I would want him to take and I’d still feel that way. Seen enough of both players to feel secure in my view that pressure is a detriment to Bruno Fernandes, far more than it is to Ronaldo.
 

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Hmmm. I haven’t dared go near his thread (I’ve absorbed enough toxicity already for the day) but are you sure about that?
Well its the caf. Theres bound to be some kneejerkers :lol:

They'll be back gobbling his cock when he scores a hattrick next season.
 

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I am actually. If you do these silly steps and break concentration and skip and what not, and miss, you are in for deserved ridicule and laughter. Remember Simone Zaza? Jorginho has perfected the act and does it every time and hence he can skip, but Fernandes changes around because he’s nervous and then this happens. Concentrate and fecking hit the ball like Kane or Ronaldo, this penalty was the personification of Lingard’s fashion style.
Im pretty sure jorginho and bruno have very similar conversion rates.

Both in the high 80's.

So unless you're bringing Thierry Henry back from retirement or manage to sign mo salah, we're not going to do much better.

Oh of course we could just sign mark noble and sub him on for the pens...oh WAIT.
 

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Jorghinio literally cost his country q place in the world cup.
He is not the barometer that people think he is.
 

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I may be in the minority here but I didn't have a problem with Bruno taking the penalty and even though he missed it these things can happen.

It was Bruno's overall performance that was the real problem.
This. He's scored 21 out of 24 now. It's some record. He even done the keeper as well as he normally does.

His general all round play has been largely shite since last Christmas now. That's the problem
 

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I am actually. If you do these silly steps and break concentration and skip and what not, and miss, you are in for deserved ridicule and laughter. Remember Simone Zaza? Jorginho has perfected the act and does it every time and hence he can skip, but Fernandes changes around because he’s nervous and then this happens. Concentrate and fecking hit the ball like Kane or Ronaldo, this penalty was the personification of Lingard’s fashion style.
Did you complain about the other 21 he's scored like that?
 

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So according to Transfermarkt, who only include in-match penalties, the following have such conversion rates:
  • Bruno 88.1%
  • Jorghino 86.3%
  • Kane 86.2%
  • Salah 84.4%
  • Ronaldo 83.2%
Im pretty sure jorginho and bruno have very similar conversion rates.

Both in the high 80's.

So unless you're bringing Thierry Henry back from retirement or manage to sign mo salah, we're not going to do much better.

Oh of course we could just sign mark noble and sub him on for the pens...oh WAIT.