Sparky_Hughes
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85 million?
Last season he scored over 20 goals. His performances where poor generally but I gave him the benefit of the doubt because of injuries and apparently carrying a shoulder injury for most of the season.Even if ETH turns him around and he bangs in 30 goals next season, I’m interested to see how fans will look back on Rashford as a player.
The last 2 years have been horrific, no doubt in my mind he’s downed tools and as has been pointed out, his attitude on the pitch is absolutely stinking. There’s a slim chance he can turn this around but I reckon the esteem fans have held him in before is done, he’s gone to be fighting an uphill battle now for as long as he wears a Utd shirt.
My conclusion about him a couples years ago aged wellHe's very much kick and rush. His finishing is inconsistent, his general dribbling is no way near the hype and he misplaces pass too often with silly flicks every now and again. He's way behind Sterling in general play, and this is when he had a solid half season of leading the line for us.
This is where I'm at.Being out of form (albeit for what feels like is approaching over 2 years now), is one thing. But that extreme lack of effort on the pitch is inexcusable. It’s an insult to the club and to the manager/fans. I’d sell him if it means the money goes into the kitty for reinvestment.
He might do if he can't keep Sancho on the right. I don't see Rashford accepting a right sided role and being a backup for Sancho, he'll have to be brilliant on the left, if he loses form and ETH uses Sancho on the left I can see Rashford struggling to get back. I don't see him being a central striker. Rashford has to nail the left hand side here or move to another club to do that there and resurrect his England chances. His England career and United place that he has known might not ever return.The only niggling thought I'd have is if things went a bit wrong will he check out again?
This is what it comes down to. Despite what people like to say to defend Rashford, he isn't putting in any effort. Thats quite literally the baseline that anyone can expect from a United player or a professional in general. I never saw Dan James come off the pitch and think "god he was lazy today". Very limited footballer yes but lazy, never. Dan James wasn't on £200k/week either.Being out of form (albeit for what feels like is approaching over 2 years now), is one thing. But that extreme lack of effort on the pitch is inexcusable. It’s an insult to the club and to the manager/fans. I’d sell him if it means the money goes into the kitty for reinvestment.
I think he forgot the decimal point between the 8 and 585 million?
This is it isn’t it?This is where I'm at.
You can defend bad performances, but a lack of effort is the worst. And it's clear this season Rashford hasn't been giving 100%. I think back to that Villa cup game where there was a chance of a rebound to score and he just couldn't be bothered to run. One of the most glaring examples of a player not giving a shit that I've seen.
To then be leaking stories about how unhappy he is with his minutes and he wants assurances of more game time despite half arsing it all season is insulting to Utd fans
Should he ever achieve such levels for us again on a consistent basis, not forgetting that even the Rashford of previous seasons still needed to improve to be considered a forward a club like us should be relying on, then I think the fans will quickly forget this year.Even if ETH turns him around and he bangs in 30 goals next season, I’m interested to see how fans will look back on Rashford as a player.
The last 2 years have been horrific, no doubt in my mind he’s downed tools and as has been pointed out, his attitude on the pitch is absolutely stinking. There’s a slim chance he can turn this around but I reckon the esteem fans have held him in before is done, he’s gone to be fighting an uphill battle now for as long as he wears a Utd shirt.
What does this mean?Furthermore his off field politics is ruining the team.
You cant have his brigade and the ex players all putting pressure on ETH
Even that might be pushing itI think he forgot the decimal point between the 8 and 5
It certainly would say something about us as a club, that we are done hanging onto players past the point where they are useful to usPersonally, I think it would be really sad to see the lad go. When he first came through he was a boy with a lot of raw talent, who was actually putting up some very impressive numbers. While he can be incredibly frustrating (I've voiced this many times,) I don't like how a lot of the fanbase has turned against him. But there's no denying that his performances have not been good enough for some time. I mean, let's be honest, they're been woeful.
He looks broke to me, and I'm not sure if there's any way back for him here. I would love to think that EtH could get something out of him with some proper coaching, which he probably hasn't had in...forever, but honestly, I just don't see it.
As I said, I personally think it will be a sad day if he does indeed leave and would say just as much about us as a club, as it would about him.
Transfermkt has him at 63 million, down 7 million from last week.85 million?
And thats the exact mentality that will see us not challenge for a title in the next 10 years.There was a lengthy period where he was a good finisher and showed plenty of skill dribbling and beating players. I still hope he can reproduce that and build on it; seems like a better outlook than hoping he won’t.
He’s been off it for a couple of years but some people look at Rooney’s last couple of years and say he was overrated. Rashford’s recent poor form doesn’t mean he was never any good - he was our most effective forward for a while and I think it’s a bit soon to condemn him.
This is where I'm at.
You can defend bad performances, but a lack of effort is the worst. And it's clear this season Rashford hasn't been giving 100%. I think back to that Villa cup game where there was a chance of a rebound to score and he just couldn't be bothered to run. One of the most glaring examples of a player not giving a shit that I've seen.
To then be leaking stories about how unhappy he is with his minutes and he wants assurances of more game time despite half arsing it all season is insulting to Utd fans
Yep, playing through injuries etc. were all seemingly valid excuses last season, to cover his poor form. That means patience and giving him another chance to turn it around. But the lack of effort is just on another level and I really can’t think up any excuses to defend that.This is what it comes down to. Despite what people like to say to defend Rashford, he isn't putting in any effort. Thats quite literally the baseline that anyone can expect from a United player or a professional in general. I never saw Dan James come off the pitch and think "god he was lazy today". Very limited footballer yes but lazy, never. Dan James wasn't on £200k/week either.
I would happily see him gone and never think about him again. I don't care if he regains his form elsewhere. That would just be another indictment on his complete lack of character as a United player IMO.
would love to believe this but I’ve seen literally no indication from him for months that he’s capable of going on a run.If he regains his form - I personally don't think he will lose it again as he enters in to his prime.
If he doesn’t regain his form next year then I think he has lost it forever.
It would say a lot more than that. Like the fact that we simply don't improve players.It certainly would say something about us as a club, that we are done hanging onto players past the point where they are useful to us
Agree. Also sell Maguire for 100 mill, Martial for 80 mill, WB for 70 mill and Jones for 40 mill and we can have a brilliant rebuild this summer.Unless ETH has some incredible plans for him, if someone offered round about the 85 mil mark or above, we should let him go.