Aurelien Tchouameni / Signs for Madrid
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If it's not nonsense, and he would opt for the PL over Real, there's every chance for United.
Even if we're winding down with the silly money wages, we only have that to entice a highly coveted player (new project and being the club Ronaldo - and possibly Pogba - plays for being secondary factors) and I'm pretty certain we'd be prepared to pay the toll for bringing this type of player here in lieu of no CL football.
Not getting drawn into this, mind. He's not going anywhere but Real
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Even if we're winding down with the silly money wages, we only have that to entice a highly coveted player (new project and being the club Ronaldo - and possibly Pogba - plays for being secondary factors) and I'm pretty certain we'd be prepared to pay the toll for bringing this type of player here in lieu of no CL football.
Not getting drawn into this, mind. He's not going anywhere but Real
.Hopefully players like this want to be apart of the revolution because that’s what it means to sign for us at the moment. A sleepint giant wanting to get back to the top. Can they be apart of it? Even if it means missing the CL next season.
If the club has a clear project that can show the player how are we planning to get back at the top, why not? I think we have a good chance because city, Liverpool and Chelsea already have players in his position.
Let’s be honest it’s Liverpool. If it was Chelsea or City I’d be nervous. But them guys can’t even offer Salah good wages. Just show him to money I’m confident we will be more attentive than them.
Let’s hope the new chopping and changing upstairs sells this club to new players.
Let’s hope the new chopping and changing upstairs sells this club to new players.
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Why would Paul Mitchell have any effect on such a move? I’m dying to hear the logic here
Bring in Tchouameni and Kamara on a free in, literally transforms our midfield with a pure out and out defensive midfielder to screen the defence and a proper box to box ball winner which then allows our front four to do their thing.
Aren’t we currently desperately trying to offload a shitload of players that we offered silly money to to keep hold of them? Why on earth would we immediately do the same thing again
Salah wants money that would break the wage structure over there.
I don’t think we should be offering that sort of money to this player.
Arsenal in for him also…
This is exactly how you end up with a squad that isn’t motivated by glory.
Yep. That’s why Ralf Rangnick had a big moan and blamed our recruitment. I mean you guys all over this place have this guy as number 1 DM. So what’s the issue? Either he’s good or he’s not that good. If he’s not that good then just don’t get him at all.
An odd thing to throw at me, who openly admits to having never seen this guy and having no opinion at all on him
Breaking their wage structure.. Which is exactly my point. Our wage structure is bigger than there’s. I’m not saying go stupid I’m saying he’ll be better paid playing for us.
Explains your response then and I don’t blame you for it.
£80m for Maguire on £150k a week is poor business. It’s not the same as getting this guy and giving him and extra £30k a week compared to Liverpool.
I’m not saying anything mad. We were once Liverpool and we missed out of players like Yaya Toure, David Silva and Eden Hazard. Sometimes the money does pay off. Don’t be burnt because our scouts and management didn’t do their job correctly for the past couple of years.
Nothing much, just the fact Mitchell is Monaco sporting director. There are many factor, one he would know how much Monaco will accept the deal which allows us to accelarate the deal without long negotiation. Two, Mitchell might know about how to deal with the player's agent before, which I'm sure he had dealt with the agent during contract negotiation so he knows what to expect from the agent's demand. Lastly, the player might have good employee-director relationship which would make it easier for Mitchell to persuade him with the project. In addition, Mitchell might know his personal number, which allows Mitchell to talk directly to the player without talking with his agent first.
I had seen my college decided to leave tier 1 company for tier 2 because he was convinced by his former boss to come and given important role. May be Mitchell understand what the player wants and he knows how to hit the player's weak spot to convince him to come here.
These factors are not really that convincing but that's the only slim chances we have because right now without Mitchell, we have zero chance.
Hopefully you’re talking about our new hypothetical front 4 because it doesn’t matter who’s winning the ball or spreading play if you’re static and predictable.
And even the hypothetical front 4 can't just do 'their thing' if we want to implement a cohesive strategy going forward like the poster you're responding to says.
If there's one player I'd want us to push the boat out for, then it would be Tchouameni imo. There's not a DM outside the big clubs who is as dominant as he is, at controlling a large space in a compact high block.
He would be the most important piece of the jigsaw imo, which would take us a long to being a front foot team. He's a player that provides the platform/foundation for a head coach to build a high pressing team.
He would be the most important piece of the jigsaw imo, which would take us a long to being a front foot team. He's a player that provides the platform/foundation for a head coach to build a high pressing team.
Those types scare me, even if we got them. Just because of key man risk if hes injured or unhappy or whatever.
Exciting news that we are linked nonetheless, your evaluation of him would be better than mine.
I'm a big fan of the guy based on the 3 games I can remember watching this season, but is he what we need? He seemed more of a Fred than a DM.
And before people say he's so talented we can't miss out, I'd like to remind you we signed Sancho, Varane and Ronaldo and it didn't exactly work out.
I know Fred's a divisive figure around here, but with not even one DM or RW in the squad and Telles + Maguire regularly appearing for us، surely his detractors realize a Fred upgrade isnt the priority?
And before people say he's so talented we can't miss out, I'd like to remind you we signed Sancho, Varane and Ronaldo and it didn't exactly work out.
I know Fred's a divisive figure around here, but with not even one DM or RW in the squad and Telles + Maguire regularly appearing for us، surely his detractors realize a Fred upgrade isnt the priority?
He's a complete midfielder that has been utilised as a single pivot or even in a double pivot.
I think Chelsea will be in contention for him too. I think by the time July comes, they'll have a new owner and they'll want to show they mean business.
None of those players are at fault if those around them don't facilitate their game.
Sancho is a world renowned combination player, yet we isolate him on a wing without even a supporting full-back, let alone supplementary midfielders and attackers.
Varane is used to far better than what he's had here; it must be remedial to have to look over your shoulder so much rather than squeeze the life out of the opposition as the club he played for and country are renowned for.
We barely supply Ronaldo or play cohesive football, yet he's doing the best he can with the tools at his disposal.
The theme has to stop and us become a coherent and cohesive unit otherwise we'll never get the best out of literally anyone we buy. It's no coincidence not a single touted player has come here and improved; in fact they've all eventually dropped in performance and output and fallen in line with the status quo.
Tchouameni would, you'd hope, be a cornerstone of a newly constructed midfield and a core component in us being knitted midfield - you wouldn't him coming in to play with the cloggers we have in midfield, rather be part of a new and exciting unit.
Sounds very promising.
I guess our only slim chance would be to offer 10-20m more than any other club, which is doable. But he could of course refuse to sign for us and go to Liverpool or City.
Good post
It will be a much different looking side next season under the first real tactical system we've had in years. I expect that the club to sign only players that will be well suited for the new manager's vision and with that I expect to see the talent at the club and on the way to fit in much better as part of that cohesive unit than in previous seasons.
Offer Monaco 60m and give the kid 150k pw.....surely that should be good enough to land him
Maybe. But no CL… Will have a big impact on first years transfers I think.
If United really want him then they’ll have to start doing what we did and start (behind the scenes) pitching their plans to the players and making them feel like a central part of the project. If this is who they’ve identified. It’s how we secured players like VVD, (the infamous Blackpool meeting) when you have less to offer than other clubs you have to go the extra mile.
Of course United have funds we didn’t have but with ragnick there I think you’ll learn to stop throwing giant contracts around like candy.
Of course United have funds we didn’t have but with ragnick there I think you’ll learn to stop throwing giant contracts around like candy.
Players like Hazard were the hottest properties in Europe at the time. This lad is highly rated but giving him a monster contract to get him in isn’t the way to go. United need to pitch the project and set a boundary line that they’ll walk away from on deals.
In any respect, I hope we get him.
new manager...he wants the prem and we can probably offer him a starting role. The ability to help turn around the club is hopefully something that he would fancy.
David Silva? Yaya Toure?
You have to shop smart abit like the striker situation, the scarcity in the market means you can’t just walk away from certain deals when presented to you. For Instance you can set boundary’s with Antony as there are a variety of options as the same level. Tchouameni not so much.
People need to stop getting obsessed with specific individuals, as if they will make or break our season. Talking about offering a kid ridiculous wages to tempt him to come, are we going around in circles? We need players that are good enough to play the roles ten Hag lays out, and we can see where the weaknesses lie once everything is properly implemented.
You're the only one claiming this, and Tchouameni isn't a 'kid'
There is literally someone on this page talking about going above Liverpool's wage structure for him
He's 22 and playing in France, offer him a decent wage and explain what we are trying to do, and if he goes somewhere else, so be it.we need better individuals in this group to make the squad strength and depth better.....this specific individual is right now one of the top 2 or 3 players in his position which is what recruitment is all about
finding the individual that has quality who fits the need of the first XI
Yeah and we are going to finish in the Europa or worse and have a new manager coming in, we aren't really in pole position for these types of players.
So it's not a bunch of people but one poster?There is literally someone on this page talking about going above Liverpool's wage structure for him
My post wasn't really specific to this player exclusively, so yeah the term 'people' was perfectly appropriate. Not sure why you've taken offence, you seem to think I was aiming my comment at you?
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