Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?

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Ralf has done a bad job but we hired a systemic manager with players that can't play in any recognisable system, and hired him for 6 months at that. You won't see anything different with Ten Hag comes in, most of these players need clearing out and replacing. They don't even try anymore.
Please mark your word and see what ETH can do with these players in six months.
 

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Think about it, mate.

First LVG wasn't good enough, then it was Jose, then Ole and now Rangnick. Are we really expected to believe all 4 of them spectacularly failed, while the players once again escape accountability for their consistently appalling performances?
The players are fecking different between them all. What is it with Utd fans not realising you can have multiple bad managers in a row? Ole came the closest to acceptable performances/results but even he was off the required standards. Which of these players have been here for all four managers. Its the laziest narrative in the world right now designed to protect Rangnick.
 

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I can’t wait for Austria to start playing beautiful gegenpress football & then have the CAF explode about why he didn’t get our lads doing it.

Well he tried and they done it all for 30mins against Palace.

For Tuchel & Klopp both to sing his praises, he must be doing something right, he can’t be this bad.

It’s the fecking players!!!
Yep, Caf experts love throwing stats and numbers around, feck context. They know better.
 

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His supporters are licking their lips in anticipation for his post match interview where he deflects all blame.

The word fraud had often been used here but there is no bigger fraud in the history of this club than this joker.
 

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Should have spent money on a short-term specialist instead of The cheap option.

I’m sure even Big Sam would have given some of these pricks a kick in the arse.
This is true, not even just a short term specialist but someone who has made their career as a manager/coach rather than an executive.

If they identified Ralf for this advisory role then offer him that anyway. I am sure we can afford the salary for both consecutively.
 

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Think about it, mate.

First LVG wasn't good enough, then it was Jose, then Ole and now Rangnick. Are we really expected to believe all 4 of them spectacularly failed, while the players once again escape accountability for their consistently appalling performances?
It's obviously both. In hindsight, all our post-Fergie appointments have been dreadful. It was those failed managers who assembled this squad (barring a couple from the Fergie era).

The club has totally lacked any semblance of structure, strategy or planning over the last decade. Jose was the only appointment that made any sense to me, but he was a shit-show. Ole was a disaster and those 3-years under his management, have definitely set us back.
 

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If ETH comes in and gets these players playing coherent football next season, will most of you accept you got it wrong?
 

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It's funny to recall his early post match interviews of him gleaming about installing simple coaching. The players have truly yanked the rug from under him since. Seems to have been a quite abrasive relationship that I feared would happen.

I think a lot of coaches would've been confident in taking over Ole as easy, probably quite smug early on like Ralf then spat out.
 

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Why are you tagging me? Im not absolving Ralf of blame, so stop making shit up with daft posts.

Yes he takes a huge responsibility, but these players are also long gone.

Do you have problems reading? This is a genuine question.
Nah, it's fair game. Your arrogance and pathetic excuses week in, week out have come home to roost.
 

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Think about it, mate.

First LVG wasn't good enough, then it was Jose, then Ole and now Rangnick. Are we really expected to believe all 4 of them spectacularly failed, while the players once again escape accountability for their consistently appalling performances?
The playing squad has changed almost entirely in that period of time. And all those managers were responsible for signing them. LvG got rid of as many fergie stalwarts as he could and replaced them with schneiderlins and depays.
 

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Yes. Those are all decent coaches who either stayed past their welcome or wasn't the correct fit.

Rangnick never even had a new manager bounce.
Thank God for that, if he reached top 4, those that jerk on CL would put him in a wheel song.
 

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Think about it, mate.

First LVG wasn't good enough, then it was Jose, then Ole and now Rangnick. Are we really expected to believe all 4 of them spectacularly failed, while the players once again escape accountability for their consistently appalling performances?
I don’t think anyone is giving the players a pass mate
I’m a fan of ralfs ideas, and I’d like us to play his football but, if you don’t have the players to pull it off don’t use those tactics
There is a reason not all teams play tiki taka or whatever
We know are players are poor on the ball, we know they won’t track back we know our defence is shit

ffs Jose knew it, so he played a low block with boring football because his midfield was mctom Fred fellaini matic, and he won things
 

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God help the Austrian national team.
 

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Nah, it's fair game. Your arrogance and pathetic excuses week in, week out have come home to roost.
Pathetic excuses :lol:

Come home to roost? Whats wrong with these silly posts. Ive said I wouldn't be surprised if we lost all our games left.
 

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It's obviously both. In hindsight, all our post-Fergie appointments have been dreadful. It was those failed managers who assembled this squad (barring a couple from the Fergie era).

The club has totally lacked any semblance of structure, strategy or planning over the last decade. Jose was the only appointment that made any sense to me, but he was a shit-show. Ole was a disaster and those 3-years under his management, have definitely set us back.
Which speaks volumes because he's the only manager who is the complete antithesis of what Utd is about. He was a disgrace and we should never have brought him in. The biggest mistake this board made was not following LVG with a competent, modern possession manager rather than ripping everything up for that dinosaur cnut Mourinho. Ole was a breath of fresh air after him and he didn't do a bad job, he just didn't have the tactical nouse to push us that final step.
 

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Why are you tagging me? Im not absolving Ralf of blame, so stop making shit up with daft posts.

Yes he takes a huge responsibility, but these players are also long gone.

Do you have problems reading? This is a genuine question.
Nope I've read all your insults to me fine, so will the mods when I report them
 

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Think about it, mate.

First LVG wasn't good enough, then it was Jose, then Ole and now Rangnick. Are we really expected to believe all 4 of them spectacularly failed, while the players once again escape accountability for their consistently appalling performances?
All of them bought around 8 players by their last seasons. It's not like they coached the same 25 players throughout. Psg sacked Tuchel, Carlo and Emery. Tuchel :ucl winner, Carlo league /ucl winner and Emery won a Europa and reached the semis with Villarreal. Our ex managers don't seem to disprove that they themselves were out of their depths. They were very much part of the circus especially with some of the players they signed.
 

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Since the West Ham game at the end of January we have a 25% win ratio and a 38% loss ratio.

It definitely can't all be blamed on Ralf's incompetence the players are equally culpable but does anyone still think he's improved this team?
 

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The guy has taken zero accountability, zero chanve to youth players, then taking austria job. He has done nothing but put the club under the bus. What a shitshow of an appointment
 

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Nope I've read all your insults to me fine, so will the mods when I report them
@Jippy has asked me to avoid insults. So Im happy to attack the post and not the poster. As I did.

Asking if you have trouble reading was a genuine question. No less insulting than your childish tags in the forum and making up things I didnt say.
 

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If ETH comes in and gets these players playing coherent football next season, will most of you accept you got it wrong?
Which bit are most people wrong about? Do you mean the players will be proved to be good or RR proved to be bad?
 

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Honestly who gives a feck about Rangnick? He’s not going to be the manager for much longer and this season is already a write off as well know.

Debating wether or not he’s actually a good manager is trivial at this stage, as he was hired on an interim basis to work with the existing squad and give his assessment at the end of the season.
 

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He has been pretty crap mate. As for the dressing room. I think it's got too much hip-hop culture, you know where it's seen as not cool to try your best.
What the feck kind of post is this? Too much hip-hop culture. What's that meant to mean?
 

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Which speaks volumes because he's the only manager who is the complete antithesis of what Utd is about. He was a disgrace and we should never have brought him in. The biggest mistake this board made was not following LVG with a competent, modern possession manager rather than ripping everything up for that dinosaur cnut Mourinho. Ole was a breath of fresh air after him and he didn't do a bad job, he just didn't have the tactical nouse to push us that final step.
They were all utter, utter shite and I certainly wouldn't make excuses for any of them. Ole was a cracking interim, but hiring him permanently was ludicrous.

I was hoping Jose would get his spark back when he came here but it wasn't to be. He was obviously a 'has been' at that point. Couldn't wait to see the back of him by the end of his tenure.
 

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The guy has taken zero accountability, zero chanve to youth players, then taking austria job. He has done nothing but put the club under the bus. What a shitshow of an appointment
He has been a train wreck in the managerial role but he did take accountability in saying he should have done things differently.
 

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You can only hope that his role as a consultant will be very very different to a manager. It should be in theory but with this fecking club, you never know
 
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