It might be a different era, it doesn't or shouldn't mean that what Sir Alex achieved should be in any way dismissed, diminished or anything like that.
Who where the close challengers in 17-18, 19-20 (Liverpool) and 20-21? All those titles were won by landslides.
Aberdeen? I get it more important than Peps achievements at Bayern, Barca, and City? Just stop. Scotland kinel
The fact that you are mocking/dismissing/putting down/laughing, in a way only adds to his achievements there, he literally beat REAL MADRID in a European final, please show me when Pep has done likewise despite spending billions more than what Sir Alex did......
Well it’s definitely less impressive to win trophies with teams that recently won said trophies and are used to win them.
He beat Sir Alex's own United twice in European finals?
Yup, Jose winning back to back European trophies (UEFA Cup, beating a very good Celtic side with a prime Larsson, then the Champions League) doesn't get talked about enough really.
And??
"Scotland kinel"
Exactly!!
You're trolling with this. A coach rated so highly by his peers (and other great players who all know better), and who's had a huge influence on how the game is been played today still has to prove himself? Put the pipe down.
Nope no trolling, just facts, he might be respected by his pears, but his actual achievements are not on the level of what Sir Alex achieved with Aberdeen, what Sir Alex achieved there is mind blowing, I don't see why that is being put down in any way.
But he has a lot of very good players. He can literally build 2 teams and compete with them in the EPL and probably even finish top 6 with them that's how much depth they have.
Nothing you're saying about Pep is a fact, just your opinion.
How many times has this fake news been debunked already?
…because it’s not fake. They were without Torres for half a season, and now they have replaced him with Haaland. Mendy was bought for 50 million, so going to include him in the squads.
It wasn't a myth last year when he still had Mendy and Aguero. He had 20 very good players last season - more than enough for 2 squads with some players from the academy involved.
You know damn well you're trolling adding Mendy, Haalland who isn't at their club yet, Kayky who hasn't played a single minute. Putting Grealish in the midfield 3 (when he's played in the front 3 all season) instead of Silva, putting Zinchenko as a starter at LB instead of Cancelo and Stones instead of Dias.
He had Xavi, Iniesta, Busquet, Messi.
Hindsight is always 20/20. That Barca team played nowhere near the level they did when he took over, and didn't win anything for 2 seasons.
Not as laughable as your reading comprehension skills apparently. Read my post again, I said hes world class but also outlined why I think he’s not as good as SAF or Klopp etc. Both those coaches have overachieved. Pep has gone into a perfect situation every time. And not won the CL at Bayern or City, which lets face it, is the goal at both those clubs. They didn’t hire him to win the german league at Bayern, some people from the caf could manage them and win it.
Is that ETH?
May be Pep had to start that lineup due to fatigue/injury? If he can be blamed for the starting lineup, he should be credited for the correct substitutions too. I know many people were scratching their heads when they saw Sterling coming in. And he delivered a valuable assist right away.
Barcelona surely is a bigger beast than Aberdeen- that’s the point. Fergie won it with a team whose resources were so much lower, and came from a much lower league. That’s something pep has never done, he’s never taken an underdog to the top. It is silly to say just cause someone is at a top club that success is given, it’s just he’s never done a coup like Fergie did for Aberdeen or Mou for Porto in that sense. Can’t deny he isn’t better then Mou at this point, although give Mou that City checkbook and I would say he could have won the CL at this point.
It’s just that he has never picked a massive underdog and gone to the top. That’s all there is anyone can claim. Otherwise massive budget is a pressure a lot of people couldn’t handle, let alone deliver such success.
He was always driving a Mercedes is the analogy I would say, but I don’t feel anyone is saying he’s garbage. Simply that he’s never done it in ways Fergie did. That’s true, no denying it. But also no denying he’s a football guru and extremely successful. I’m sure he’ll go down as the most successful manager of all time, even though fergie is there at 48 titles.
Not hindsight at all. In the 2011 final we had Fabio, Ferdinand, Vidic and Evra. 3 of those were in their 30's and Fabio was certainly nowhere near a world class player. In midfield we had Carrick, Giggs, Valencia and Park. Giggs was way over the hill at that point, Park wasn't a winger and Valencia was decent... at best. In attack we had Rooney and Hernandez. Hernandez was a decent player, but again not exactly world class. In comparison, that Barca team was filled with world class players in every position and quite frankly - numerous legends in the game and potentially the best or second best player in history (depending on your view). Certainly that 2011 season was the best one in Messi's career. Even SAF's magic couldn't counter that. In the 2009 final it was far more competitive and I do believe we could have easily won that if one or two things went in our favour. We had a brilliant start were we could have scored a number of goals and I think missing those chances basically cost us the game
Of course he's a great but the fact you need to mock Fergie's time at Aberdeen and don't understand (or dont want to) the magnitude of his success there says a lot.
Well, Klopp is staying till 2026 it seems. So I wouldn't mind Pep winning 8 in 9 seasons.
Pep is world class. When his team decided to turn it on last night... wow. Imagine that with Haaland next season.
