Why is Bruno in there?
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Why is Bruno in there?
Stop with all the signings, my head is spinning.
With so many players kicking and screaming to not sign for the club, we don’t have many options
It's going to be overpaying for fellini on deadline day again isn't it?
... and then saying there is no value in the market
... and then saying there is no value in the market
Yeah, to be honest, anyone who actually wants to sign for us probably isn’t worth having.
No big signings are happening for anyone until after the nations league
Yeah that's all we can hope for
Put a "help wanted" sign outside of Old Trafford. Might help.
We'll be fine. Hag will get some good players in
The clubs are making moves all over. Some are in the financial frugality mode. Mourinho is doing his old and reliable mode again. Others seem to have not noticed that there is a war on. All have a direction, at least, and are doing something about it. All but one.
This isn't true, but you do need good scouts to find these hidden gem players and we don't appear to have those.
I actually don't understand why fans are so obsessed with signings. Signings are not the key issue here, it is how the manager understands the squad that is important here.
It is highly possible that we may only make 1 signing or even none at all, but it is not a problem as the manager's perspective is always different from the fans. We are only deciding that the squad is pathetic based on what we see but the issues may be due to lack of confidence, fitness etc which is also a strong possibility. Hence why ETH kept on reiterating that this squad was 2nd the season before. The academy has loads of talents waiting to explode which gives a strong outlook for the upcoming season.
Be patient and wait for the manager's assessment. Dont invest your time into reading articles and media nonsense when they (media) have no idea about what is exactly happening at the club. From what I see, the changes seems to be in terms of structure so that the football operations are more effective.
It is highly possible that we may only make 1 signing or even none at all, but it is not a problem as the manager's perspective is always different from the fans. We are only deciding that the squad is pathetic based on what we see but the issues may be due to lack of confidence, fitness etc which is also a strong possibility. Hence why ETH kept on reiterating that this squad was 2nd the season before. The academy has loads of talents waiting to explode which gives a strong outlook for the upcoming season.
Be patient and wait for the manager's assessment. Dont invest your time into reading articles and media nonsense when they (media) have no idea about what is exactly happening at the club. From what I see, the changes seems to be in terms of structure so that the football operations are more effective.
Eeek, Woodward's back at the club...
yikes
The anti-muppet.
You Sir are a destroyer!
Cant agree with the original poster. We are losing a lot of experienced players, there are question marks over many others. Look at Maguire really poor again for England again last night. We need 3 signings minimum to have a hope of top 4, and I am sure the manager wants that as well. Problem is our budget is constrained and we are no longer as appealing nor throwing money around like we used to. Not in itself a bad thing but will be a painful period of adjustment.
We don't need any signings. Where have we heard this before.Eeek, Woodward's back at the club...
My answer to the comment has multiple components.
- The current squad has been plenty responsible for making 3-4 managers lose their jobs at United (including Rangnick, who went full frontal in tackling all football-related issues).
- We already let 4 players run out of contract. They all had to go because there was just no future left for them, but replacing them with men with lots of upsides is imperative.
- We still have players under contract and yet are just not good enough for this club by any stretch (like McTominay and our D-corps).
- We also have Marcus Rashford, who has never shown any form of resilience when things got tough for him. I also consider him as a major responsible for our managerial failures and as a less-than-desirable character to keep in the dressing room.
- We have seen City execute Order 66 on their own squad in order to meet Pep's demands after he saw who was not worth keeping despite a league title won 3 years earlier. Twelve players got axed that summer while 6 new face came the other way in.
- We may have some kids ready to play in the first team, but we need enough leaders and other regulars to set the bar where it should be set.
And feck the Glazers and their tight budget.
Good on ya mate.
Phew....common sense still exists....
So far the only players who have left the club are those out of contract.....Our inability (for whatever reason) to not being able to push the deadwood out for years is scary...I also think we need to go ruthless and kick out players who are just not up for it or good enough for man utd...
All the below needs to go for one reason or another including need to raise funds:
Martial, Jones, Brandon Williams, Telles, AWB, Baily, Rashford, Henderson, Maquire, McTominay.....it can be done if we start being ruthless and have right people in charge and know what they doing....Seriously, if we can't sell any of them, put them in reserves....send a msg that weak characters and bad performances will not be tolerated..Period
Guess we will sign 5 players:
- One overpriced player (especially on salery).
- One has-been player with injury records
- One hail mary that is just not good enough
- One 16 year old big talent that might be available in 4-5 years
- One goal keeper (free) that will never play.
Only early signings will be the talent and the goal keeper.
- One overpriced player (especially on salery).
- One has-been player with injury records
- One hail mary that is just not good enough
- One 16 year old big talent that might be available in 4-5 years
- One goal keeper (free) that will never play.
Only early signings will be the talent and the goal keeper.
this window looking more and more like it's gonna be a Murtough diasterclass
Wot, no transfers?
Window opens on 10th June…
Think we’re really going to struggle to land top talents who would improve us for reasonable fees.
The last thing we want is a darmian, Memphis, Schneiderlin, Bastian, blind, Rojo summer though. We can’t afford to make wasted transfers.
The problem for me is the culture in the club. We worship our players if they’re bringing in commercial revenue or are from the youth team. We need someone in the club, not just the manager, who says “we’re Manchester United, this is what’s expected of you and this is how we do it”. We’ve completely lost that in recent years whilst city and pool have developed and refined it.
We have top players talent wise but they are not held to account, perhaps it’s not fully defined what’s expected of them; it’s all about standards. ETH will hopefully demand this in his own image. But this is serious stuff, it’s work and focus and then reward when you achieve success. Until we sort this out, no matter the personnel we bring in, they will revert to type, become lazy and complacent.
Everyone in the club has to remember who they are representing, that we should have higher standard and do things better than other clubs if we want to actually be better than them.
That’s how I see it anyway.
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From last season 7 players have left: Pogba, Matic, Lingard, Mata, Cavani, Grant, Greenwood.
Other players look certain to leave: Henderson, AWB, Bailly, Jones, Tuanzebe, Martial. That's another 6.
Senior players remaining at the club will then be:
2 GK: De gea, Heaton
3 FB: Dalot, Shaw, Telles
3 CB: Varane, Maguire, Lindelöf
2 CM: McTominay, Fred
2 AM: Bruno, Van de Beek
3 WF: Sancho, Rashford, Elanga
1 CF: Ronaldo
We need to sign 6 players to have two options for each position: 1 FB, 1 CB, 2 CM, 1 WF and 1 CF. And looking at the options above we need to improve the quality in almost all areas.
Unless the plan is to rely on youngsters like Williams, Mengi, Garner, Hannibal, Chong, Amad or Garnacho for major game time, we really need to start signing some players.
Other players look certain to leave: Henderson, AWB, Bailly, Jones, Tuanzebe, Martial. That's another 6.
Senior players remaining at the club will then be:
2 GK: De gea, Heaton
3 FB: Dalot, Shaw, Telles
3 CB: Varane, Maguire, Lindelöf
2 CM: McTominay, Fred
2 AM: Bruno, Van de Beek
3 WF: Sancho, Rashford, Elanga
1 CF: Ronaldo
We need to sign 6 players to have two options for each position: 1 FB, 1 CB, 2 CM, 1 WF and 1 CF. And looking at the options above we need to improve the quality in almost all areas.
Unless the plan is to rely on youngsters like Williams, Mengi, Garner, Hannibal, Chong, Amad or Garnacho for major game time, we really need to start signing some players.
Well if it’s true Matt judge is still involved in negotiations then it’s going to be a long and drawn out summer window.
Thought he resigned a couple of months ago?
People say this shite every year. All the top clubs have a player through the door already, or are putting the finishing touches to it.
United clearly aren't close to anything yet. It does actually matter to get business done swiftly.
United are usually the team who are slowest off the blocks and then unsurprisingly the team with one of the worst transfer records of recent times.
People never learn it's incredible.
We can still have a good summer, but we absolutely should have a deal or two in place right now. It's so urgent we should be acting faster than any other club.
Exactly. Completely agree.
The people who say things like that are probably the same ones who end up paying twice as much as others for the same holiday because they booked it so late.
Those teams usually have been working on transfers over the last few months, out manager literally just came in to the club give him a chance to assess the squad before seeing where he needs to strengthen.
On the positive side our youngsters will get plenty of game time.
Good thing we don't have history with injury problems......
This isn't just a problem for United in seasons where a new manager is in, this is a consistent problem year after year. Last season was probably one of our best Summers, yet not one of our 3 new signings started the new season. It's poor planning and it affects the squad as you're then bedding them in during the season when it should be happening in pre-season, so points get lost early on.
Also reliable United-based journalists have already said that Ten Hag has discussed specific players he wants, about a month ago now.
Add in the players we've already lost this Summer. United should absolutely 100% be getting the first player in about now.
I agree we are a shambles in almost everything we do.
When ETH announced he was leaving Ajax early I thought maybe he would come in identify the problem areas of the team and have a few players ready to sign, still might happen before pre season but also might not.
This year with all the changes behind the scenes im going to give them some leeway, hopefully they will have learned from past mistakes and this bodes well for us going forward.
I hope so.
They fly away on the pre-season tour in about a months time, so I certainly hope the majority of the deals are done by then. But nothing seems imminent.
Senior players remaining at the club will then be:
2 GK: De gea, Heaton
3 FB: Dalot, Shaw, Telles
3 CB: Varane, Maguire, Lindelöf
2 CM: McTominay, Fred
2 AM: Bruno, Van de Beek
3 WF: Sancho, Rashford, Elanga
1 CF: Ronaldo
If we add to that list Garner, Mejbri, Mengi, Shoretire plus Martial (pre season at least then out on loan) and wait for it - Greenwood (what are they going to do with this guy). At the moment it appears to that the police cant charge him otherwise surely they would have. So I can only see the club sacking him - will they do that to see him surface somewhere else rehabilitated and playing well again. I think he's going to be back next season after his enforced sabbatical.
2 GK: De gea, Heaton
3 FB: Dalot, Shaw, Telles
3 CB: Varane, Maguire, Lindelöf
2 CM: McTominay, Fred
2 AM: Bruno, Van de Beek
3 WF: Sancho, Rashford, Elanga
1 CF: Ronaldo
If we add to that list Garner, Mejbri, Mengi, Shoretire plus Martial (pre season at least then out on loan) and wait for it - Greenwood (what are they going to do with this guy). At the moment it appears to that the police cant charge him otherwise surely they would have. So I can only see the club sacking him - will they do that to see him surface somewhere else rehabilitated and playing well again. I think he's going to be back next season after his enforced sabbatical.
I think after the Nations League fixtures are over (the window will officially be open aswell) we should see some incomings. Hopefully.
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