Darwin Núñez / signs for Liverpool

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he's nowhere near a €100m striker. A delicate question: when has a South American striker stayed for a long time,5-10 years or more in the UK and at one club. I cannot recall one, I don't know if he speaks English.

It's much more complicated, i wouldnt spend €100m on him..

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There’s literally been one in the same city we play in.
 

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he's nowhere near a €100m striker. A delicate question: when has a South American striker stayed for a long time,5-10 years or more in the UK and at one club. I cannot recall one, I don't know if he speaks English.

It's much more complicated, i wouldnt spend €100m on him..

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Aguero?
 

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It's always confusing when they report things as 100m package. I presume the actual transfer fee is around 70-80m euros, which is still a lot but not terribly bad when you think about it.
 

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He’s Lukaku 2.0 if he signs for Liverpool, but Ruud 2.0 if he signs for us, right? Is that how it works?
 

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He’s Lukaku 2.0 if he signs for Liverpool, but Ruud 2.0 if he signs for us, right? Is that how it works?
I think that around here, the way it works is usually the opposite!

If he signs for Liverpool, he's Cantona, Ruud and Rooney rolled into a single player; if he signs for us he's a donkey with a first touch like a brick wall.
 

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It's always confusing when they report things as 100m package. I presume the actual transfer fee is around 70-80m euros, which is still a lot but not terribly bad when you think about it.
The total transfer fee is rumoured to be €100m. £68m + £17m in add ons.
 

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Stats taken from twitter:

19/20 season - 16 goals, 23xG
20/21 season - 6 goals, 10xG
21/22 season - 26 goals, 18 xG

21/22 - 0.46 npxG per 90
20/21->0.44 npxG per 90
19/20->0.43 npxG per 90

At the prices being reported, you're really depending on this season's overperformance on his xG being the sudden emergence of one of the Europe's best finishers rather than an anomaly season.

If he cost less you could argue that he'd be worth signing even if his returns regress and he returned below his xG as he did in the previous two seasons. But at €80 + €20 type prices he'd have to actually be the real deal, especially given his weaknesses in general play.
Didn't Andrea Belotti have a similar season like that where he ended up having a couple of Europe's top clubs after him? No-one bit on the humongous price at the time, around 80m pounds, and he's since become an afterthought at the highest level.
 

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The financially pumped club part is irrelevant. Aguero is a great example.
It's not irrelevant, it's very relevant, he's an outlier. without that money city wouldnt be where they are and he wouldn't be there
 

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I'm aware; my point is it fails more often than succeeds. Where it succeeded was with a financially pumped club.
When Firmino’s contract runs out next summer it’s going to be 8 years at Liverpool. I don’t think they’re a financially pumped club.
 

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It must be good business when you're Benfica. Have access to all of these South American talents, plonk them into a dominant side, inevitability some will scale the heights, sell for a shed load. And yet these players have never had to play a full season in a high quality, intense league. Not dissing them, but it's a good model, not sure how they made a loss.
 

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If you think Firmino hasn’t been a successful signing I don’t want to argue with you.
Give he had 27 goals in one season and hasn't achieved anything like that level in any other season. What do you define as success for a striker?
 

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It's not irrelevant, it's very relevant, he's an outlier. without that money city wouldnt be where they are and he wouldn't be there
It is irrelevant. We could've had 9 years of Aguero at Manchester United if we chose to sign him. He was a loyal professional at Man City, while not making more than the top earners at United.
 

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98 goals over that period, is that a success?
Firmino was signed as an attacking midfielder and Klopp transformed him to a forward. He didn't whine. Just did his job of linking up even when he's not that good in finishing.
 
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