Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap

[Nou_Camp99]

Do you even like footballer who have some flair? You hated Pogba, Sancho is a mistake and are already consider looking elsewhere instead of buying Frenkie de Jong. Im guessing you werent a fan of Nani either? Do you turn on the tv to enjoy 90 minutes of Scott McTominay?

No I have said we should get Frenkie as he's Erik's choice. His wages are a bit over the top though.

Yeah I love players with flair. Sancho didn't show much flair last season to me. He actually was very safe and predictable on the ball. He's not worth 350k a week in my book.

 

[Teja]

Patience fellow Muppets. It's not panic stations yet.

 

[croadyman]

Man you lot.....

It's a done deal. It has been for a month now.

Ticks too many boxes not to be done.

What will be fun is, who do we get after FDJ?

So what's your gut telling you about a DM, we signing one too or will it be Fred for the season

 

[Dempsey19]

Pogba was on 290k. There is no way Sancho is on 350k.

There's so many articles with different wages.

350k is quoted more often than others, both pounds and euros. There's also another article saying Sancho on less than what was predicted by the media before the deal went through, that it was reported to be 350k pounds but turns out to be 175k pounds.

We will never know what he's actually on.

 

[Nicolarra90]

This is not the translation.

MU continue to submit their offer of 70m+ for the Dutchman. The club continue to be convinced that he will leave.

There is nothing new going on. Same situation.

Is Spanish your first language?

Because that's not what it says.
In any context you want to think of.
Your translation is just wrong.

 

[Pearl.Jam]

Not desperate to sell, so it's pay up or se queda. Ignorant to keep with this idea of Barca having no hand, Manchester United paid £80million for Maguire, clubs will know this.

Is your username Spanish for gullible ? Asking for a friend

 

[DickDastardly]

So what's your gut telling you about a DM, we signing one too or will it be Fred for the season

Nah, it's just Frenkie in the middle.
We'll get on with Fred as an enforcer.

Looking forward to the next transfer target...

 

[JPRouve]

This is not the translation.

MU continue to submit their offer of 70m+ for the Dutchman. The club continue to be convinced that he will leave.

There is nothing new going on. Same situation.

As far as I can see the translation is:

MU continue to increase its offer: 70m plus bonuses for the dutch.

The club is still convinced that he is going to leave.

I have a doubt about who is "The club", Barcelona or United.

 

[LawCharltonBest]

Offer the extra £17m as a clause to be paid if United score from a corner next season

Given that we’re short by a Glazer dividend payment, can we directly blame them if it falls apart?

 

[King Eric 7]

The famous Redcafe negotiating team are on the case! Just pay them what they want. And a little extra on top as a tip. We're nice like that

 

[bosnian_red]

So what's your gut telling you about a DM, we signing one too or will it be Fred for the season

Honestly I think we just sign Frenkie for midfield and Ten Hag ends up trying to train Fred or McTominay into that role. Wouldn't put it past him making it work either tbh. But Frenkie alone would be a massive improvement.

 

[Adnan]

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[Compton22]

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I'm glad someone is

 

[JPRouve]

The famous Redcafe negotiating team are on the case! Just pay them what they want. And a little extra on top as a tip. We're nice like that

I can't help but think about Life Of Brian and the haggling scene.

 

[Nicoseth]

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Sky sports are pretty low on the reliability scale when it comes to transfers these days.

 

[awkwarddutchguy]

Hope we can make this happen and buy an beast of an CB next

 

[Solius]

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We’ve been here before.

 

[Withnail]

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We’ve been here before.

It was the same with Sancho wasn't it?

 

[pocco]

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We’ve been here before.

I thought we paid about £50-60m for Bruno?

 

[caid]

Not desperate to sell, so it's pay up or se queda. Ignorant to keep with this idea of Barca having no hand, Manchester United paid £80million for Maguire, clubs will know this.

After spending 2 years haggling on his price. Everyone involved with negotiations this summer will be desperate to avoid repeating a mistake like that too, its their first season in charge after the shitshow that resulted in signings like that. Everyone thought we'd overpaid for Maguire by about 20m at the time and it was a bit of a rip off but Leicester had no reason to sell.
You can get the 60 / 70 they'll offer now or if your lucky 80 next year after another summer of haggling and thats only if we stay true to form. Sancho went the same way.
The alternative is we move on and get 2 midfielders for the price your looking for. They're upgrades because it'd basically be impossible not to be. Spend another 80m cause we can. Get top 4 fairly comfortably because we weren't far off with our worst season in 30 years and come back next season. Its not like there aren't other positions that need attention and we probably need 2 more midfielders on top of de jong anyway.

 

[Solius]

I thought we paid about £50-60m for Bruno?

£45m I think.

 

[Lash]

Yeah Romano seems very out of the loop on this one. I wonder if he’s lost one of his big sources due to Mino’s passing.

I didn't think about that, but probably very good point.

 

[Rolaholic]

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We’ve been here before.

Yup

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[ash_86]

£20m apart is the new 48hrs

 

[Dannn411]

They ended up paying way more than £39m for Bruno though so what was the point? Only transfer this strategy worked for was Sancho and now even the £73m paid looks like an overpay.

£80m cash no instalments for Maguire and £50m for Wan Bissaka. Once we agreed to make those two transfers, the club should have known there and then that every single transfer from that point was going to be an overpay. Two of the worst deals ever. By any club.

 

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Sticking my neck out: This time next week we'll refreshing twitter and waiting for the 'Here we go!'

 

[caid]

Sticking my neck out: This time next week we'll refreshing twitter and waiting for the 'Here we go!'

I'm not really expecting anything before 30 June.

 

[Nicoseth]

Yup

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To give you a timeline - that article was posted on July 3rd. Varane signed for us on July 27th, so strap in - it's going to be a slow ride.

 

[devilish]

Totally understand that point too. However those wages would have just been given to Pogba and Cavani anyway. So not much financial difference plus CR7 leaves next season (Even though he pays for himself).

The remaining budget can still facilitate those lower financial deals. We still need a certain level of quality and if he can get it now it saves us having to spend for it later.

Pogba was going to be given 300k. De Jong, who I remind you, hasn't set Barcelona alight would be given at least 350k, which is very close to our second highest top earner and longest servant of the club ie DDG. Now I am not saying that we shouldn't do our very best to bring ETH the man he wants. All I am saying is that we have many positions that needs to be filled and we're working on a limited budget which means that we need to act smart. Surely a former Ajax manager can understand that. On the other hand if we've got 200m to spend then by all means lets get De Jong. He's the guy ETH wants

 

[Dominos]

It was the same with Sancho wasn't it?

The difference is Dortmund wanted to keep Sancho in summer 2020, and they set such a high price specifically so they didn't have to sell him that summer, and succeeded.

Barca are forcing De Jong out the door because they need the money.

We're correct to wait this out and get the best deal. The issue is, it doesn't explain the lack of activity in other areas. There are about 5 other areas of the team in desperate need of signings but the fact we've made no progress in any other area shows the club's incompetence yet again.

If we're waiting on De Jong before we make any other signings it must mean we're skint and we need to know the exact price of De Jong before we commit to any more spend.

 

[Rolaholic]

To give you a timeline - that article was posted on July 3rd. Varane signed for us on July 27th, so strap in - it's going to be a slow ride.

We officially signed Sancho over a month after the 'far/20m apart' stories too.

The Muppet life isn't for the feint of heart, squeamish or impatient

 

[E-mal]

This deal will be done once the NSE resumes on Monday.

 

[croadyman]

We officially signed Sancho over a month after the 'far/20m apart' stories too.

The Muppet life isn't for the feint of heart, squeamish or impatient

Not sure we have a month this time with other positions to sign players as well

 

[AneRu]

He is the manager's number one target and I believe he knows the consequences of spending big on FDJ on the extent to which he can rebuild his side. If he is comfortable with the choices then good, the club should pay. I don't think there will be a DM coming in after this though and we will try various combinations with Fred, McT and/or Garner.

We will buy him, pick up Eriksen on a free, that kid from Derby on a free and possibly Anthony then look to offload some junk to fund a CB signing. What we will achieve will depend on whether Maguire, Varane, Shaw, Rashford, Sancho and Bruno can get back to any thing resembling their best.

 

[Niemans]

So his 19m wages next year are no problem and it's not preventing you from registering new players as has been widely reported? Everything's fine with Barca's finances?

- If he stays, a salary reduction will be made.
- €19M if all the variables of his contract were met.
- No, with the economic agreements Barcelona does not need to take away FDJ's salary to register new players.
- Barcelona's finances will be good or bad in the future depending on the management they do.

 

[Withnail]

The difference is Dortmund wanted to keep Sancho in summer 2020, and they set such a high price specifically so they didn't have to sell him that summer, and succeeded.

Barca are forcing De Jong out the door because they need the money.

We're correct to wait this out and get the best deal. The issue is, it doesn't explain the lack of activity in other areas. There are about 5 other areas of the team in desperate need of signings but the fact we've made no progress in any other area shows the club's incompetence yet again.

If we're waiting on De Jong before we make any other signings it must mean we're skint and we need to know the exact price of De Jong before we commit to any more spend.

I'm talking about last year when we were in negotiations which turned out to be successful not the 2020 shitshow.

 

[caid]

- If he stays, a salary reduction will be made.
- €19M if all the variables of his contract were met.
- No, with the economic agreements Barcelona does not need to take away FDJ's salary to register new players.
- Barcelona's finances will be good or bad in the future depending on the management they do.

What if he says no thanks?

 

[STYLOISRED]

I thought we paid about £50-60m for Bruno?

We paid 55 million EUROS for Bruno

 

[Hoof the ball]

Not gonna lie. I thought Erik would bring in his top Ajax talent with him. Surprised to hear that Gravenberch decided on Bayern and Timber reluctant to join now. If De Jong doesn't fancy it and Antony doesn't happen either I fancy a deadline day snatch of Haller, Schone and Klaasen.

 

[Withnail]

- If he stays, a salary reduction will be made.
- €19M if all the variables of his contract were met.
- No, with the economic agreements Barcelona does not need to take away FDJ's salary to register new players.
- Barcelona's finances will be good or bad in the future depending on the management they do.

But you still haven't registered Kessie, Christensen and that young lad according to reports. Why's that then?