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Ousmane Dembele
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Think it comes down to the players desire, I'm sure Chelsea will offer a better financial package and I can see him doing well under Tuchel. 343 formation and consider Reece James will cover much of the defensive side of the field those circumstances could bring out the best in Dembele though he has had from what I've heard a good season since Xavi has taken over.
Martial is bad but this guy. Wouldn't want to be anywhere near this guy.
so Dembele wants to stay with Barcelona, but also wants to squeeze as much as he can for salary, and in the mean time keep his option open. Chelsea also knows this and will wait for the outcome before make their move.
Dembele is an even bigger gamble, will come on wages of 350k a week, and has no defensive capabilities which is a must in ETH team
I think he and his representatives have realised he’s not getting the money he’s was supposedly asking for before. He can probably get more than the €6m euros net Barca are offering at Chelsea, but he won’t get astronomical wages at Chelsea either. It sounds like we’re on standby waiting to see what he decides about his Barca offer.
Kudo to Chelsea for not giving in to player's outrageous wage demand even it is a free transfer. In the end it will back fire every club if this trend continues.
Not a fan of this player at all. Has expensive mistake written all over him given his wages.
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Great player, so much ability but we need to about the bigger picture, the team and I'm not sure he would buy in and accept that it's about the team, he's very much about him from what I know of him and I think will cost a huge salary etc so not one I'd go for.
Dembele on a free with a reduced salary would be great business from Chelsea’s side imo
Nah, Dembélé isn't about himself, as a player he is very much of a team player.
Has there not been issues of attitude? I think his injuries are concerning too
I've watched near 90% Barca games since Xavi took over and Dembele has genuinely been world class in those games, his decision making has improved so much, he has cut out the unnecessary dribbling and stepovers, he still has the burst of pace to beat defenders and he's making good decisions in dangerous areas, I'm actually surprised he hasn't accepted Barca's offer as this is probably the best he's played for a long time in terms of end product.
Dembele + Sterling would be a pretty substantial upgrade on Werner and Ziyech. Hope this happens.
Chilwell and Sterling on one flank, James and Dembele on the other. That’s tasty. Just wondering how we’d fit Mount into a team with those two.
Chilwell and Sterling on one flank, James and Dembele on the other. That’s tasty. Just wondering how we’d fit Mount into a team with those two.
Also sounds his choice of salary is now down to Barca's 6m euros and whatever Chelsea are willing to give him, which has been reported in the past to be around 8m pounds - so around 116k euros or around 150k pounds a week. Neither of those are astronomical.
Really, really hope we switch to a back 4 with those players. Rice at the base of the midfield flanked by Mount and Kovacic with Gallagher and Kante in heavy rotation. Sterling Havertz Dembele up front.
It depends on what you mean by attitude, he isn't good at keeping time and used to play too much of Mario Kart which didn't help the fact that he isn't good at keep time but it's not really an attitude issue nor does it mean that he isn't a team player. I mean Kanté is also known for his habit to be late, as was Piqué.
Xavi treats him almost like Messi in his system, he should definitely stay put at Barca.
I want him at United so much simply because he is on a free. His wage should fit in already under players who are highly payed anyway.
It gives us a good/great left footed RW without having to pay a transfer fee.
Frenkie De Jong + Dembele seems very FM 2023 but it’s actually quite realistic.
Sancho & Dembele as our creative wider players with the rest being more goalscoring type.
It gives us a good/great left footed RW without having to pay a transfer fee.
Frenkie De Jong + Dembele seems very FM 2023 but it’s actually quite realistic.
Sancho & Dembele as our creative wider players with the rest being more goalscoring type.
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On paper that sounds fantastic I won’t lie
Between Xavi and Barcelona's young core he fits perfectly, Pedri, Araujo, Gavi and Dembélé are an exciting core. Hopefully he continues to mature and don't put himself in an awkward situation.
The potential he showed at Rennes promised so much, 2 footed, brave, quick, strong, great technique, he was the best young player in Europe at that point I would think, outside of Mbappe. Seems like a better footballing option than Antony if he could stay fit, but is the hunger to be great still there?
Major improvement on Ziyech for Chelsea if he could play 50 games a season.
Major improvement on Ziyech for Chelsea if he could play 50 games a season.
I would have expected that he has a lot more offers under these conditions. PSG, Bayern, Liverpool could all make good use of him. Potentially a great deal for the club he plays for next season.
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As I read the offer is €6M net + 1.5M in variables.
I think Barcelona should have cancelled the offer a long time ago. Mainly for dignity, something that many who run the club do not have, including Xavi.
They all call themselves Cruyffists, but only in word, in deeds they do not prove anything.
Don Johan Cruyff has long since cancelled his offer, anyone who hesitates to play for the club cannot be there for a moment longer.
This guy.All the potential in the world but an absolute tool.Avoid at all cost.
He's only played the equivalent of 160 games in his whole career so far, playing more than 30 games only once. The only way he could play 50 games is if he only played the last time 5 or 10 minutes in each one.
He's one to avoid at all costs.
Bayern are talking to his representatives too, from what I've read. PSG were interested, and it actually seemed like it was a done deal to them at one point, until they got a new sporting director who ended the interest.
I hear you about the wanting players who actually want to be there thing. If Chelsea had a player who was out of contract and strung the club along for months and months, as a fan I'd probably feel the same as you. I do think the best thing for him is to stay there with Xavi and I think your thoughts about him will change over the coming months, if he does extend.
Most likely, always a bit of dream that the perpetually injured will get over their issues, especially players as explosive as Dembele. Giggs, famously had to change his running style and rarely sprinted full out after 26/27, still quicker than the vast majority but the rocket speed was rarely used.
Problem then becomes what we do at CB. A 38 year old Thiago Silva in a back 4? I’m not sure.
I know he's been injured a lot but I'm surprised there's not a bigger story around this / more clubs lurking
He is a player who was signed on a deal worth up to about £130m a few years ago.
Right forward, two-footed, free transfer. Surprised more haven't linked him to United.
He is a player who was signed on a deal worth up to about £130m a few years ago.
Right forward, two-footed, free transfer. Surprised more haven't linked him to United.
I got the feeling that Dembélé would like to stay from the start, and that Xavi knows it and doesn't want to alienate him as he values him.
I guess we could switch between systems to suit the players in the line-up. Silva showed signs of struggle in the second half of last season. I have a feeling next season might be his cliff.
At 26/27 Giggs also changed his lifestyle and driving habits, he stopped driving new sports cars because the stiffer clutches were causing him problems. So, he bought one car and stuck to it and it helped remove the tendon problems from his knee causing hamstring issues.
I don't know what Dembele does outside of football, but if the reports that he eats junk and stays up late playing video games are true, then you can see why he's so injury prone. He would need to change his whole lifestyle to make sure his body is capable of taking the demands of the game. I'm not sure he has it in him to do that.
Dembélé has changed his lifestyle a long time ago and the source of his injuries has been mentioned by Aspetar, it's supposed to be based on Barcelona's training methods which makes sense since his issues aren't different to the ones Alba had and he didn't had injury issues before Barcelona.
Haven’t seen much of Barca.
Does he have the ability and discipline to press the opposition? And does he track back regularly and help out defensively?
I guess ETH is looking for these qualities in a right winger.
I can def understand the temptation of many to bring him in on a free. I’m a big fan as well. Guy has genuine quality when he’s on it. But he needs to be a good fit in the new managers playing philosophy.
In my opinion Bayern's interest depends on what happens with Lewandowski and/or Gnabry.
As of now they have too many attackers for their 3 (in a 4-3-3) or 4 (4-2-3-1) spots: Lewandowski, Sané, Coman, Gnabry, Mané, Müller, Musiala...
Dembele is an incredible player when fit and I would welcome him at my club with open arms. Barca's offer of €6m net is almost peanuts for Bayern so that wouldn't be an issue.
Alba has played 40 to 50 games a season for almost 10 years. Pique, Busquets, Xavi, Suarez, Messi, Alves, Neymar, Iniesta amongst others all did the same for extended periods of time.
Dembele, hasn't been able to get anywhere near that and it is down to the training regime.
If he can stay fit it’s a no brainier, I’d take him here as he’s looked rejuvenated last season.
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