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Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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Working with ETH again, and having the team built around him, or CL football.
I hope it’s the former.
I hope it’s the former.
How did you come to that conclusion. One question = agitated?
One tweet = 'omg please stop posting this'.
How many times had it been posted previously? 0.
they owe him what, €20m I think? I doubt €3.5m will be enough, but this is going in the right direction then at least. If they find an agreement on those deferrals, things should hopefully speed up.
I am sure i read an article recently quoting Jorginho's agent saying Chelsea is his priority and they would be opening negotiations about new contract sometime in September.
It's really quite clear the Chelsea stories are planted by Barcelona and it's actually the one glimpse of positive update I think this transfer has had in weeks apart from the same stories being reported. At least it's clear now to the casual observer that Barca are still trying to wriggle more cash out of Utd.
Should the Chelsea English journalist start reporting of their interest there might be something in it but given the fact that we just signed a player represented by the same agency that represents De Jong. I am sure they would keep Utd informed if any other club approach them, if not for anything than to look after their own interest and see if we would match said club's offer.
It's really quite clear the Chelsea stories are planted by Barcelona and it's actually the one glimpse of positive update I think this transfer has had in weeks apart from the same stories being reported. At least it's clear now to the casual observer that Barca are still trying to wriggle more cash out of Utd.
Should the Chelsea English journalist start reporting of their interest there might be something in it but given the fact that we just signed a player represented by the same agency that represents De Jong. I am sure they would keep Utd informed if any other club approach them, if not for anything than to look after their own interest and see if we would match said club's offer.
Not an amazing source so take it with a pinch of salt.
That is ridiculously illegal if true.
Also retweeted that Chelsea are after him though. Another poor source.
It's quite telling that no one else has jumped on this story yet. Thought for sure Romano would have piggy backed this by now.
Chelsea have been interested for a week or two
He doesn't seem reliable so probably not true. Wait for a T1 UK journo to comment.
We'll pay you 3mil but forget about the remaining 14mil, fair deal??
This is where some higher footballing authority like the Spanish PFA, UEFA, La Liga etc are supposed to step in and make Barcelona pay what they owe. But seeing as they’re shit scared of them...
They were linked a couple of weeks ago, seems they've stepped in properly now if these updates are true. He's only just retweeted that a few minutes ago, so was obviously slow to the Chelsea news.
Doubt it
frenkie....Frenkie....FRENKIE
FRENKIE....Frenkie....frenkieeee
*to the tune of Chelsea, Chelsea, Chelsea*
FRENKIE....Frenkie....frenkieeee
*to the tune of Chelsea, Chelsea, Chelsea*
I think we will 100% be waiting until this time next summer to rebuild our midfield. One or both of Kante and Jorginho will walk and we will make a play for the likes of Rice and Bellingham. Matt Law said last week that we will absolutely be in for the latter.
There are too many other areas in our team that need immediate work. Buying De Jong at the moment doesn’t seem like something we’d do at all. Not unless Juve or Barca themselves come in for Jorginho right this moment.
Tbf United's scouting network wouldn't have gone for Frenkie to start with. They would have thought it would be too difficult an extraction job out of Camp Nou. Its a 100% ETH request.
There's been change before, at this point they need to prove themselves first, and not just be given the benefit of the doubt.Apart from there being a completely new structure of people in charge yeah
Outside of that yeah, we've signed a player that's probably not on anyone's critical list of areas to be fixed, Eriksen who our competition was Brentford. We're going after only players the manager knows and that's it. What do the scouting department do at all? Fighting with Ajax to reduce their prices, because we spent all our time fixating on a player that doesn't want to play for the club and now we're being priced out. On top of all that our so-called talisman thinks we're shit and wants to bail.
It is not a stretch to say this window hasn't been great. We can cling on to hijacking the mighty Lyon for a young left back, and trying to not to overpay, but the team is still left bare.
Our most outstanding thing from the window so far is managing to get 10 million for Pereira, but sorry that's not really good enough when there's 4 better squads (2 significantly better) in the league and 4 more proven managers running them. If July mimics June I can see us struggling this season.
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Regardless of what happens with this De Jong deal, im quite surprised that its only De Jong we seem to have chased in midfield. Its fairly obvious that we need a lot more than just one guy in midfield to turn that area of the team around. The old midfield group was already horrible but now, two of them are gone and the other two wouldn't start for Wolves. At the bare minimum, you have to be replacing those two or its a downgrade for an already truly terrible midfield group. Just De Jong will not change that. Just baffling this strategy of De Jong or nothing.
Maybe but it all would seem a bit too similarish with those guys. I'm staying positive on this one for us even with no movement..
based on Chelsea fans like @Orc explaining how it doesn't make sense for them, and based on the fact that throwing in another interested club is often a thinly veiled attempt by the selling club to get the buyer to pay up.
I don't buy this apparent Chelsea interest one bit. They need CBs, they need a striker. De Jong makes little sense for them, unless Kovacic or Jorginho leave.
Is it a stretch to say that this could indicate FDJ's preference is United if he has to leave Barca?
relevo i think youre on about. Newish source but poached a lot of the top spanish journos. Like the Athletic did, took all the better journos. This de Jong story has come from a barca reporter, Toni Juanmarti. It likely is nonsense tbf
But we've agreed the fee haven't we?
Apparently Malacia didn't make sense to United fans. Supporter in not knowing the plans of their club...go figure!
I was watching “Money ball” last night, now admittedly I know feck all about American sports and how it works but Billy Beane just phones up whoever and says I want to buy or trade such and such, a few seconds later deal done.
Now while I’m fully aware that this is a film and there is an element of artistic license that goes with these things but I assume there’s an modicum of truth to how they do business like this, I wish this was the case with football because this shit drags on for weeks.
Now while I’m fully aware that this is a film and there is an element of artistic license that goes with these things but I assume there’s an modicum of truth to how they do business like this, I wish this was the case with football because this shit drags on for weeks.
That's not the point of the tweet. Steinberg is a good source saying Chelse might get involved if our move falls through. It hasn't so it's unlikely.
Personal terms can only be settled once Frenkie knows what or how much he is getting back from his deferred salary/payment. He wouldn't settle it now either until that amount is finalised -- that way he will know how much to ask from United... whether it includes additional compensation (from the loss in the deferment package) if he leaves Barca
In what sense?
I don't get how Barca survive all these back-payments owed on deferred wages and still function at the level they aspire to.
They're going to need to bring in serious money through player sales - and that would be beyond FdJ, and irregardless of financial levers it seems.
They're going to need to bring in serious money through player sales - and that would be beyond FdJ, and irregardless of financial levers it seems.
Would be slightly amusing if he went to Chelsea are all this.
6 days ago? You have to really trust this journo's source if you don't think Chelsea have decided to make a move if they were interested. Why on earth would they wait to see if our move breaks down?
Certainly more reliable for Chelsea news than Romero is.
I think it's a fair offer.
Write off 14mil in order to push through a move he's not exactly mad keen on, but Barca and United both do want to happen, seems like a reasonable and respectful request the player should jump to accept.
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