Shit or get of the pot Barca, so boring. Hope you're ridiculous club goes bust.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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Sooooo has there been any uk journos at all, not just Chelsea ones, but ANY that have reported this new found interest? I mean you'd think they'd know by now?
Couldn't possibly be that Barca are trying their best to get United to cough up what they're asking using techniques that have worked against us in the past?
Couldn't possibly be that Barca are trying their best to get United to cough up what they're asking using techniques that have worked against us in the past?
Same here. My phone also crashes. Although it loads properly on a pc. So maybe a problem with safari.
Laurie Whitwell says he thinks this could run until the end of the summer window. Fun fun
Safari on phone for me too!
Yeah, they both seem fairly pessimistic.
If FDJ goes to Chelsea then we will have out done ourselves with our pathetic transfer policy.
I hope this is just Barca releasing stuff to hurry us up but if this is genuinely down to the structure of the add ons, just get it sorted. How long does it take to sit around a table and thrash it out? Other clubs do this in what seems a day, we take three months. Completely farcical and if ETH misses out on his number one target because of our appalling ability to get a deal done I can't seem him being happy.
I hope this is just Barca releasing stuff to hurry us up but if this is genuinely down to the structure of the add ons, just get it sorted. How long does it take to sit around a table and thrash it out? Other clubs do this in what seems a day, we take three months. Completely farcical and if ETH misses out on his number one target because of our appalling ability to get a deal done I can't seem him being happy.
At the possibility of it being done any time soon it seems. Seems as though De Jong doesn’t want to leave unless Barcelona pay up the wages and even then he seems like he’d prefer to stay in Barcelona
This info was released by Spanish sources... so I'd say its probably very likely that it's Barca just being their scummy selves in trying to get more money out of us.
They seem to want €75 fixed now, United probably won't budge, but if they leak that Chelsea will do all they can to sign him, then it pushes United into gear most likely
None from the Athletic but they might not get that news until they speak to the lads at Barcelona again
Another thing that should ease you United fans’ minds in addition to the fact that we’ve got Jorginho, Kante, and Kova is that we also still have RLC and Barkley on our books in midfield. With Gallagher to return. And then there’s still Billy Gilmour.
We would have to have a significant clear out in our midfield in order for De Jong to make a shred of sense. Which is why I say again that our midfield rebuild will be next summer rather than this one when Kante & Jorginho are out of contract, Rice will have 1 year less on his contract and will probably ask to leave, and Bellingham may be on the market for us to compete for.
We would have to have a significant clear out in our midfield in order for De Jong to make a shred of sense. Which is why I say again that our midfield rebuild will be next summer rather than this one when Kante & Jorginho are out of contract, Rice will have 1 year less on his contract and will probably ask to leave, and Bellingham may be on the market for us to compete for.
Quite telling that even the sources who are close to Chelsea haven't said anything. You'd think they'd have something out pretty quick. It's been 4 hours now and not a single English source has reported it.
Not even Sky Sports in their transfer gossip blog thing. They reported the He's staying thing very quickly
Knew it was too good to be true. We don’t sign top players in their prime.
If Chelsea want him, he goes there. Could see them using it as leverage for us to sell them Ronaldo though. “We’ll let you have FDJ if you allow us to sign Ronaldo” would be excellent negotiating by them.
If Chelsea want him, he goes there. Could see them using it as leverage for us to sell them Ronaldo though. “We’ll let you have FDJ if you allow us to sign Ronaldo” would be excellent negotiating by them.
If Chelsea are going to pay Frenkie all of his deferred wages for barca, then yes I absolutely want us to walk away from this and I’ll totally understand our position. Chelsea can have him no matter how good he is. No way we should be doing that for this scummy of a club
Anyway i 100% believe he’ll eventually be a United player comes the first league game of the season
Anyway i 100% believe he’ll eventually be a United player comes the first league game of the season
What 'pathetic transfer policy' are referring to? Are you wanting us to pay De Jong's wages owed by Barca to get the deal done?
Whitwell with the Gaitan reference
As much as it'd look like we're having our pants pulled down, I'd rather we did. We NEED that midfield reinforcement.
It'd be a huge psychological hit for us to lose our number one target to a rival as well after the saga dragging out this long. Horrible start to EtH's regime.
Season starts early this year on August 6th, nearly a month before transfer deadline day. Will be shocked if its resolved before then
If Chelsea get him, it’ll be very likely because they will pay all of Frenkie’s outstanding wages for Barca. Not because we are incompetent in this transfer. Would you like United to do that?
I am always optimistic. Plenty of changes have been made and we have to trust the people in charge, until they give us a reason not to.
Paying someone's wages owed by another club is more than pulling your pants down. If that is what they want, we should move on to a different target. They could easily pay him some of the transfer fee but don't want to.
Agree.
If we do get him we will have paid what Barca wanted to begin with or maybe even more
And if he ends up staying we will end up with a fellaini type.
I really hope as a club we've moved on from this transfer.
It's clear as fecking day it's not happening. Has been for weeks.
His club don't want it.
The player appears not to want it.
Way too complicated.
It's like the ugly bloke hoping the hot girl will somehow go home with him when the club closes..... but she leaves without even acknowledgement of his interest....
Move on. Stick a pin in it.
It's clear as fecking day it's not happening. Has been for weeks.
His club don't want it.
The player appears not to want it.
Way too complicated.
It's like the ugly bloke hoping the hot girl will somehow go home with him when the club closes..... but she leaves without even acknowledgement of his interest....
Move on. Stick a pin in it.
I wouldnt blame the club at all if this doesnt go through.. I still think the Chelsea link is being brought up to try and get us to pay Barca more (to cover their payment to FDJ)..
But if this falls through, I am fine.. We have bent over and overpaid clubs and players for way too long.. cant do that anymore. And seriously.. ETH might want him, but he is hardly the greatest CM in the world..
Set aside the money, focus on other signings.. see what happens and look for a backup option.. I'd be totally fine with that.
But if this falls through, I am fine.. We have bent over and overpaid clubs and players for way too long.. cant do that anymore. And seriously.. ETH might want him, but he is hardly the greatest CM in the world..
Set aside the money, focus on other signings.. see what happens and look for a backup option.. I'd be totally fine with that.
It's full on muppet meltdown in here. You all need to chill and be less stressed.
We all still have PTSD from that shit showWhitwell with the Gaitan reference
Why not?
Why is the club still hanging onto him as top priority then? Surely if the manager says he is my main man, you go get him or if its too difficult move onto another one?
We have 2 senior CM's in our squad. None of them are good enough even for relegation standard teams, let alone Manutd.
I think we’ve invested so much on this deal that it’s imperative we sign him. Glazers have so far reduced wage bill by £1m a week with departures and reduced earnings with no CL. If Ronaldo goes make that £1.35m a week - it’s a point not many on here seem to consider.
Chelsea are likely to offer players Barca have an interest in too.
Too lazy to sift through the thread, but they are there. I agree than the majority know he’s not a DM.
I’ve mentioned this before, but a lot of teams invert that deeper midfielder in a 4-3-3 and play the playmaker at the base with two ball winning 8s / midfielders ahead of him. Chelsea does this with Jorginho at the base and Kante & Kovacic further forward. Theoretically, you could do this with McFred ahead of De Jong.
I agree with this, although we obviously need to improve our reputation as easy picking in transfer negotiations we can only do so from a position of strength. You’re going to have to pay additional fees when the other part knows you’re desperate and for all the acknowledgment of Barcelona‘s predicament we are also in a position of weakness. They will know how badly we performed last season, how poor the relationship with fans is and that the club can’t afford to go into another season with a McFred first choice partnership.
My worry is if this drags on until the end of the window we won't have time to sign an alternative, should we fail to sign him. There needs to be a point where we either pay up and get this done or move on. We simply cannot go into another season with Fred and McTominay starting, not to mention we've already lost two midfielders.
Fact one or both of Mctom/Fred are likely to start every week is actually hilarious at this point.
That would be terrible by them
"Here is 15million and a further 25million in wage relief, also, have a free run at a world class midfielder in their prime, that showed you ye bastards"
doubt anyone knows what to believe with Barca
How do you feel at the prospect of Ronaldo joining Chelsea
Get rid of all high earners, play the kids?
To summarise what the Athletic lads have said today:
- No mention of Chelsea’s involvement.
- United and Barcelona have met multiple times about the sale of De Jong. United made two bids, one was accepted.
- the player would prefer to stay at Barcelona, however he’s aware Barca have accepted a bid for him and he’s told them that he’ll leave if they pay up the deferred wages they owe him. Barcelona have said that’s Uniteds problem if they want you, United have said that’s Barcelona’s problem, they’re the ones that haven’t paid you.
- Ten Hag has spoken to De Jong
- De Jong will most likely go on tour with Barcelona next week.
- This will most likely roll on until the end of the window unless Barcelona force the issue and tell him he has to go so they can free up wages, register new players they’ve just signed and pay him what they owe him.
- also, don’t pay attention to MARCA, they’re stirring the pot to wind Barca up.
- No mention of Chelsea’s involvement.
- United and Barcelona have met multiple times about the sale of De Jong. United made two bids, one was accepted.
- the player would prefer to stay at Barcelona, however he’s aware Barca have accepted a bid for him and he’s told them that he’ll leave if they pay up the deferred wages they owe him. Barcelona have said that’s Uniteds problem if they want you, United have said that’s Barcelona’s problem, they’re the ones that haven’t paid you.
- Ten Hag has spoken to De Jong
- De Jong will most likely go on tour with Barcelona next week.
- This will most likely roll on until the end of the window unless Barcelona force the issue and tell him he has to go so they can free up wages, register new players they’ve just signed and pay him what they owe him.
- also, don’t pay attention to MARCA, they’re stirring the pot to wind Barca up.
Spanish journos were saying united wanted him whilst uk journos never said anything. Its the same the journo that broke the story about united and FDJ. I am sure there is some truth that Chelsea are interested in signing the player.
If chelsea does sign FDJ it just shows how incompetent this board is. No business was attempted because they only focused on FDJ and we lost out on the Anthony and pay more for Martinez.
Rumours aside FDJ and Kovacic would be a hell of a midfield to watch
I don’t think Barca will be interested in any of their players. They are having real trouble registering their own signings and targets
As things stand, they are going to start every game. I dont understand how we are going into a season with 2 CM's. 0 DM's.
We are a club that fail to fix problems in the squad. We took years to fix the RW, we still haven't fixed a RW since Nani. We havent got a top CM. Our last top striker was Zlatan.
No other top club goes more than 1 window without fixing the issue.
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