The exact wording was:
You forgetting that he needs to take a massive wage cut on a new contract to stay at Barca?
I think the signing of Eriksen is key and strengthens our hand. We can look at different options to play with him given his versatility. A destroyer and move him higher or someone similar to FDJ (DLP) and go with plan A.
Does his contract say you forfeit your pending salary if you leave the club?
Well that's the issue. They can't register Christensen or Kessie until they offload some wages or convince players to take a pay cut. So they have to force De Jong out if this transfer is going to happen.
My interpretation of it all is still that they agreed on an outline of how much Barca wants and we have made two bids but they are not happy with the structure of them still.
They fecking do if they don't pull the plug sharpish and start drawing up a list of backup targets immediately.
None of us can realistically answer this.
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He doesn’t need to really. He could just stand on his original contract and there’s nothing Barca can do about it. If they can’t pay him, i imagine Frenkie will hire lawyers to take them to court? But then we read everyday that he loves the club so much that he’ll probably play for free for them for the rest of his contract
They're his dream club in the same way Madrid was Ronaldo's dream club. Plus he has a great relationship with Xavi who is also one of his idols.
Nah, from what I understand, he's told Barcelona that if they want to sell him to United, he wants the deferred wages they owe him. Barca have then told United that they'll accept the bid for the player but United will also have to pay him the deferred wages Barcelona owe him, to which United have said "no chance" that's your agreement with your player and nothing to do with us.
Yeah of course its not the clubs fault.
Feckin Chelsea, if they keep this up we should definitely sell them Ronaldo to get even.
I think all these points mentioned are what we actually are doing.
You can hate the upper management and still love the institution. It's a situation that I'm sure a lot of United fans have found themselves in under the Glazers. Some buggered off to support FC United or some other club, but the vast majority stayed, because the club is bigger than the people currently running it.
I don't think United are to mainly to blame for this tbh. We've clearly identified De Jong and it's unreasonable for United to be expected to pay up the money that Barcelona owe him.
Barcelona are actually playing a blinder here. They have got their free transfers in, they can train and play in pre season but can't be registered for La Liga.
Yep, I think it rumbles on all summer. Maybe even past that into January.
Yeah, and the whole team essentially suggested that fans are driving the whole noise around the transfer through clicks/interest.
Of course we all go by media talk. No one really knows what is going behind the scenes.
The club know more than they are able to say. You'd think they have assurances.
Well De Jong doesn't want to leave Barcelona but he will join United if they want to sell him and also pay him his deferred wages. Barcelona are just to make the wages United's problem instead of theirs.
I think we can hazard a guess with reasonable certainty: the answer is yes, they owe him the money wherever he goes. Anyone who has ever bought a house knows there is a big, complicated dance involving the banks, and that's over only a million bucks and 2 people. In this case, Barcelona is trying to pay DeJong with money they don't actually have. They are trying to get us to include it somehow in the purchase, but that increases our liabilities, so we are not taking on their debt. It's not like both clubs are walking in with suitcases of cash. The banks and money managers who are overseeing this are treating it as two separate deals, whereas Barcelona is trying to treat it as one omnibus package. DeJong, for his part, is owed his deferred payment, but any monies he would have received after being sold, are clearly not what Barcelona consider their responsibility, and that's probably what they are arguing: if we sold DeJong this year without those deferred payments, the additional terms of his contract would be rendered moot, or would be rendered subject to the provisions of his new contract with United.
Wouldn’t care if Ronaldo went there but if they got Frenkie that would be a toe punt to the crotch.
You'd hope they do. Would be a massive blow if this transfer does not happen.
Sounds like a convenient excuse to see if he can stay at Barca. If Barca owes him wages and it is in the contract that they pay him now or later, then he can go to court to get paid.
It would be a kick in the bollocks but at least we wouldn't have to keep watching Liverpool or City win the league
It would, but the blow would be softened if we had a swift alternative lined up.
For sure it is, he doesn't want to leave and wants Barcelona to force the issue, which they're not, which is why this one will run until they sort themselves out or they force the issue.
He's 31 this year, a well run club could definitely line up his replacement while he was still there. They could play together too.
Eh? If he doesn’t leave, Barca can’t register their signed players so he gets a massive wage hike next season and they get left with 2 players on the sidelines. Not a blinder at all.
They do supposedly want Rice and Bellingham next year though.
Exactly. If there was indeed anything in this, then we'd be getting a report from one of the Chelsea-affiliated journalists by now (not referring to Matt Law and Jacob Steinberg here).
