What sort of bizarre take is saying Barca are playing a blinder 
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Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
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Again aggregator sites twisting the quotes for attention and to get a rise out of United fans.
The article said Chelsea (apparently) offered or wanted to offer €60m and two players. Barca said no, we want cash only and didn't listen to the offer. The article didn't say Chelsea were considering it, they said Chelsea either did or wanted to offer that and was told no.
Ah anything could be at play, Barca acting the feckers, Chelsea acting the feckers because of the Ronaldo situation. Could also be a complete fabrication.
Yeah, just reinforces the notion that this is a club-driven brief to pressure United.
None of us should be surprised after seeing Laporta's public games.
Barcelona have played a blinder by not paying their players what they legally signed them up for
What is this place.
What is this place.
I've seen absolutely nothing from any English based journos, not even the crappy clickbait ones!
I really wish that United just called their bluff and moved on.
Yeah, the only English journalists to comment on Frenkie at all today have all been in a somewhat positive aspect in terms of moving to United.
Radion silent regarding Chelsea.
Wouldn't surprise me if in the past Chelsea did offer what's reported then when they were told no, backed off and watched what happened between United and Barca.
Barca are using that now to get more money out of United. If the Chelsea stuff was true, we'd either move fast to get de Jong in, or walk away and brief the media. Neither has happened at the moment, so it's a waiting game
I understand to an extent why people might come to this conclusion but for me, we simply can't back down now.
It's absolutely obvious that Ten Hag sees Frenkie as crucial to his plans. For this reason, I would even advocate us just paying up and getting it done.
I'm much more on the side of just paying what they want and getting him in.
I'm guessing you're referring to this article, right? Here's the relevant passage:
Basically, Chelsea want to involve Frenkie de Jong in the departures of [Irrelevant point] and Azpilicueta. Barcelona want to make €80m out of the sale, and Chelsea want to offer €60m + both of the full backs. There's no mention of Barcelona rejecting this in the literal sense, but I can see how this passage can imply that Barcelona want cash only. Someone with a good grasp of Catalan can probably help us out here.
What sort of bizarre take is saying Barca are playing a blinder
Exactly some strange people in here.I remember the glory days where I used to get invested in these sort of sagas (Fabregas and Thiago ones were great).
At the end of the day, these sort of sagas are draining if you're fully invested however I do believe it's worth the club sticking this one out even if it will take us into the start of the season - it's clear that Ten Hag thinks De Jong is key, so that's worth some patience - we are dealing with a club that is in a complete mess so its a complicated deal.
In terms of backup - I reckon the club has put the feelers out for Tielemans as a backup - doesn't seem to have many suitors and available for a reasonable price.
At the end of the day, these sort of sagas are draining if you're fully invested however I do believe it's worth the club sticking this one out even if it will take us into the start of the season - it's clear that Ten Hag thinks De Jong is key, so that's worth some patience - we are dealing with a club that is in a complete mess so its a complicated deal.
In terms of backup - I reckon the club has put the feelers out for Tielemans as a backup - doesn't seem to have many suitors and available for a reasonable price.
I bet some of the people in this thread at shite at poker.
Would it make sense for Barca to accept that anyway, knowing how dire their situation is? They'd get de Jong's wages off their books and then add more with 2 extra players. Makes no sense, which is why I doubt it.
It just makes no sense, not to add the absolute silence from all uk journos regarding the whole thing
I'm sorry, what?
How can we be on the hook for what they owe a player they signed to a stupid contract? In what world would that even make sense?
(Not addressed to you personally, just the sheer cheek of Barca to even suggest such a thing.)
It's clear that this is a player ETH considers fundamental, hence they club's stance. Suppose we moved to another target, then you'd get people complaining that they haven't 'backed the manager' because they haven't gotten him his first choice. I've learnt you can't win on the Caf.
And it's unfair to criticize the club re: Nunez because:
1. No one knew at the time that Ronaldo wanted to leave.
2. Liverpool's squad is better than ours; they can afford to splurge on a single player. And they knew they had to replace Mane.
I understand the frustration, but I prefer to wait until the window's closed before passing judgement.
Sounds like Edson Alvarez at Ajax is for sale for around €30m. He's not De Jong obviously but it doesnt sound like De Jong's situation is easily resolvable.
Barca on the brink of extinction....they have played a blinder
That's Erik's 'A' plan 'fecked' then as well... plan 'B' Erik, try for Kante, worth breaking the bank for that lad!...oh but check that he actually wants to play for us first...
To be fair, you'd absolutely love him to go to Chelsea, imagine having more reasons to be angry at the club
Tbh I wouldn't care. There's very little United can do to anger me anymore. I'm numb to them
That's an interesting view to approach negotiations with.
So Chelsea are signing 2 CBs, 2 full backs, 1 midfielder ,2 wingers and probably a forward too ?
Yes, makes perfect sense.
Yes, makes perfect sense.
Why is it fecked?That's Erik's 'A' plan 'fecked' then as well... plan 'B' Erik, try for Kante, worth breaking the bank for that lad!...oh but check that he actually wants to play for us first...
From most accounts the deal in terms of the fee is not too far from completion.
Typically, yes, this wouldn't be a good deal for Barcelona, but in this case, Barcelona showed lots of interest in both [Irrelevant point] and Azpilicueta. With this deal, they sort out their full back situation, overall, and let go of a player on massive wages.
should be a simple case of deducting the money owed to fdj from the transfer fee. Barca will try it on of course
They will. I'm sure we'll say no, there will surely be a compromise though.
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Some crackers on here
Why not Utd pay the 13 mil for Barca? Then Barca owes Utd the money in installments?
I think we're entering week 9 of this 'saga' and are still absolutely nowhere near getting it done
I said weeks ago this needs to be dropped it just isn't happening, we've wasted almost a full summer chasing a player who has publicly stated he doesn't want to leave it's hilarious.
I said weeks ago this needs to be dropped it just isn't happening, we've wasted almost a full summer chasing a player who has publicly stated he doesn't want to leave it's hilarious.
hint, I don’t think barca will sign up to that
This is exactly what people who are owed money by Barca should be worried about, including players. Probably a negotiation tactic by Bayern, but still a one Bayern can legitimately use with Barca and not for example West Ham.
Edit: just saw that it’s a joke by a journalist, but my point stands. Barca is a risky debtor!!!
The Lewa quote was literally a joke mate.
Frenkie says he wants to stay at Barca, they are his dream club, although they owe him money and don't want to pay him, yet he still wants to stay. The bright lights of Manchester are not appealing to him...perhaps.
FDJ's not coming, United plane leaves for pre-season tour of Thailand tomorrow... oh wait perhaps Frenkie is holidaying in Thailand, so he could join up with us then.
This has massive potential to backfire. I mean the weakest area of the team and we only have one target we chase. If this does not happen, we are doomed.
I hope we have a plan and know what we are doing, with hopefully some backups lined up.
This "saga" is an utter snoozefest. Hopefully we get more signings like Malacia and Eriksen while this nonsense carries on.
It's okay we'll send the bailiffs round to get him.Frenkie says he wants to stay at Barca, they are his dream club, although they owe him money and don't want to pay him, yet he still wants to stay. The bright lights of Manchester are not appealing to him...perhaps.
FDJ's not coming, United plane leaves for pre-season tour of Thailand tomorrow... oh wait perhaps Frenkie is holidaying in Thailand, so he could join up with us then.
Wow the guy is becoming a bit of an attention seeker now. Clickbaiting and dragging stuff out to the max. Not doubting his info on most stuff, but he definitely milks it
No doubt the facts will prove me wrong, but it seems like we endure this kind of saga every single summer going back at least 15 years.
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