No one wants the 'best player in the world' so......
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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They told him to retire as he is now shit and to forgive most the debt. Best Club in the world indeed
It’s not his fault Barcelona are dumb enough to sign players despite knowing they can’t register them.You can’t be serious
If barca were unable to register their signings because he refused to take a pay cut or move to a new team he would be made a huge villain every trick in the book would be used to make it known he is the bad guy.
This is business not happy families.
only idiots will believe he’s the villain.
In addition to the di Maria vibe, there is a hint of the Pogba vibe. I hope he is brought in and is worth the trouble and the sum, which will probably include the transfer fee and the deferred wage.
De Jong is on €18m net this season + €2.88m net loyalty - and rising over the next four years would add up to around €170m gross.
I think Marca revealed his contract details a few days ago.
Do you really believe that number, 170m over 4 years?
Isn't that the total size of the contract package over the next 4 years including the deferred salaries from the past few years?
Clearly, he isn't entitled to the salaries for the future years if he moves to United. He only just needs to claw back the deferred payments. It really isn't that complicated to figure out -- unless Barca is being cnutish about it.
It’s Barca. Idiotic numbers have become their hallmark.
I believe that number is completely wrong. Even though we all know Barca is crazy, they are not so stupid.
Someone must be confused with pretax and post tax number. Over 4 yrs for the remaining contract, he will receive 70-80m pre-tax salary. They thought it as post-tax.
With the deferred comp, yes.
Messi's last contract at Barca was reportedly €35-40M net / yr, so €15-18M net /yr for de Jong is not that unreasonable (especially as there was a bidding war with PSG/City at the time of his transfer). Add in deferred comp, loyalty bonus and tax and yes, €170m over the next 4 years sounds about right.
We will need to crowdfund Frenkie at this rate.
I am still unable to arrive at the number 170M. Unless you are talking about some ridiculous add-on with very high value.
I believe Marca said they owe him about 88.7M over next 4 years (fixed salary plus loyalty bonus). And addons of about 20M if he stays through all those 4 years and Barca wins titles etc etc
https://www.footballtransfers.com/e...barcelona-how-barcelona-owe-frenkie-jong-100m
I believe the higher tax in Spain is over 50%,so, if the numbers stated by marca are net, the gross will be around 170 million.
Virtue signalling
Just Walk Away.
If that's correct, that's €17.5 - 20M a year gross, or about GBP 283k - 320k a week. That's a "normal" contract for a player of his stature, and if FDJ was on a "normal" contract Barca wouldn't bend over backwards to get rid of the guy.
Barca awarded stupid contracts to a lot of their players which got them in the current debacle. Don't they owe like €50m in deferred comp to Pique? You don't end up there by giving "normal" contracts.
I have a close family member who was a professional footballer, he went into management and was assistant at quite a large club and fell out with the newly appointed manager and wanted to leave after an altercation but his lawyers made him sit tight for several weeks until the club had no option but to pay him out of his contract.
Different circumstances, granted, but I suspect De jongs advisers are telling him the same thing, keep schtum, say the right things and you’ll get your money and perhaps the move.
then they go and buy Raphinha for close to 50m, want lewandowski who will want substantial wages and dont have the money to pay players what they are owed. They should reward loyalty and how players conduct themselves and fight for the club. The fact he deferred wages means he cares about the club and went out of his way to help them out in their time of need and now they want him to reduce his wages again yet publicly go out and buy new players. From the Raphinha money, they could have extended the contract of Dembele and helped settle more debts owed to players. Now they are forcing players out to forfeit the payments they are owed.
I did work in a place before, was there about 4 years at this point, one guy wanted to leave after being there a year, had a job offer. Boss offered him a payrise and all of a sudden he stays for another and leaves anyway. I got offered another job, offered payrise to stay and did, payrise never materialised, got a big bill in and couldnt afford the extra £20 a week. Money wasnt the motivator for me it was more the acceptance I was wanted. Got the other job on less money and never looked back. Moral of the story, trust no one. I worked every single weekend for overtime, pushed for overtime and new jobs in different sites to help the company and still got treated poorly, only to find out one of the other guys got a payrise and was being paid it cash off the books. Fast forward 5 years and Im in a far better position than I would have been had I stayed there so Im grateful for that, FDJ will look back in 5 years and think the same, I can feel it.
I did work in a place before, was there about 4 years at this point, one guy wanted to leave after being there a year, had a job offer. Boss offered him a payrise and all of a sudden he stays for another and leaves anyway. I got offered another job, offered payrise to stay and did, payrise never materialised, got a big bill in and couldnt afford the extra £20 a week. Money wasnt the motivator for me it was more the acceptance I was wanted. Got the other job on less money and never looked back. Moral of the story, trust no one. I worked every single weekend for overtime, pushed for overtime and new jobs in different sites to help the company and still got treated poorly, only to find out one of the other guys got a payrise and was being paid it cash off the books. Fast forward 5 years and Im in a far better position than I would have been had I stayed there so Im grateful for that, FDJ will look back in 5 years and think the same, I can feel it.
All building towards Frenkie Friday!
I’d like to see him with Fred. I like Fred. How could you not like Fred?!
This.
Let Barca drive the narrative (for political reasons.) But they will appreciate it and will quietly come to their senses and pay him most of what's owed -- in wanting to move on and to remove or re-create any political minefield.
Cant. We have a match this friday.All building towards Frenkie Friday!
No, because of Spanish ffp. They need him and his huge wage gone to free up wages for new players.
Heck no. Frenkie is the most important cog in the machine ten Hag is building.
what is an economic lever - and can i have one?
really? the one player the new manager seems to want above all else?
Just Google "payday loan"what is an economic lever - and can i have one?
Search Google for pay day loans and you can have all the economic levers you wantwhat is an economic lever - and can i have one?
Aha. Snap
If it hadn't been for the fact that I really want FDJ badly - I would almost hope he stays, because this is going to get toxic. I feel like bringing popcorn
Many accusations thrown at Cristianos game, but that isn’t one. Even for Ralph he was hassling and harrying defenders and tracking back to win tackles. He will do what the manager tells him to because he is professional.I'm in the same camp. I would quite like to see them unable to register a load of players and the clusterfeck that would entailIf it hadn't been for the fact that I really want FDJ badly - I would almost hope he stays, because this is going to get toxic. I feel like bringing popcorn
Imagine if United could just trigger “Economic Levers” each summer like Barcelona… We’d have Mbappe, Haaland and Ronaldo up front.
Funny thing is too the Barcelona fans seem so happy they can keep doing it. Until the club crumbles in a couple of years time anyways.
Barcelona have to keep winning trophies at this rate. One bad season they might be out of business.
Funny thing is too the Barcelona fans seem so happy they can keep doing it. Until the club crumbles in a couple of years time anyways.
Barcelona have to keep winning trophies at this rate. One bad season they might be out of business.
They keep a half dead patient alife. The future revenues will be even smaller so they just postponed issues
Actually he can be a huge negative disruption if he stays. So he can do a lot of damage. He’s basically told everyone including his teammates that they are beneath him.
I met Tuchel at the pub last night. He said they're not and told me to feck off and called me a moron who smells like curry.
I was so appalled at the blatant racism I dropped my 15 litres of chicken tikka masala.
FFS.Just closed.
You cant polish a turd?
Today is a semi big one.
Breaking news FDJ fell out of bed this morning and took it as a sign he should leave Barcelona immediately. One of his neighbours heard him scream (translated loosely from Spanish....) "It's go time".
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