Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Not until some senior muppets of caf signoff on it.
Probably but we won’t.
They should have done with de Jong signing and moved on. Because of barca many teams stood still with their ridiculous attitude.
We should walk away from this imo...if he doesn't want to join, thats fair enough.
Same and Sancho 1.0 was really grim going too. That almost totally killed me off hardcore muppeting. Just intermittently buzzing around now waiting for the real story to eventually break. Can’t miss that at this stage but holding back from posting in here multiple times every day or getting hung up on tweets from attention seeking nobodies only trying to gain followers. Feck that. They are just cashing in on the fact Utd are popular and do transfers like sadists.
Can someone ban me please, and no matter how much I beg dont reinstate me, I can’t do this anymore, it’s got to the point at work where I’m planning my day around checking this thread 
I think it might actually do us some good.
That's what I am afraid of.
Berba you could do with a break.
No, that’s how a true muppet works. Carry onCan someone ban me please, and no matter how much I beg dont reinstate me, I can’t do this anymore, it’s got to the point at work where I’m planning my day around checking this thread
Can't you just check the thread if you're banned?Can someone ban me please, and no matter how much I beg dont reinstate me, I can’t do this anymore, it’s got to the point at work where I’m planning my day around checking this thread
Seems a bit obvious at this point. To everyone but the muppets of course.
Im a bit worried that when I wake up for work, the first thing I do is check this thread.Can someone ban me please, and no matter how much I beg dont reinstate me, I can’t do this anymore, it’s got to the point at work where I’m planning my day around checking this thread
Barca wants us to pay or at least help out with the back pay.
We are stuck because there was no back up plan.
I think we will pay this and get the transfer done.
We are stuck because there was no back up plan.
I think we will pay this and get the transfer done.
Yeah and the multiple journalists that report the contrary.
Unless Barca agree to pay De Jong 17m that they owe, this wont end. All this public posturing of “want to stay at Barca” is just about deferred wage.
Or that he wants to stay at Barca.
There's nothing face value about this one. You need a degree in Game Theory to follow it.
I doubt if it is only 17M that is pending
And we will have to pay it to end this. And we may do it actually.
He may very well want to stay, but Barca sure as hell dont want him and them forcing him to take a pay cut is prime example of this
Most tier 1 journalist have mentioned otherwise. This is an unprecedented situation where a club is refusing to pay wages. So any story planted by their agent has to be seen in that context. There is a reason why most of our journalist mention that we are relaxed about the situation. People need to relax about “doesn’t want to leave Barca” stories.
If Barca doesn’t pay then this deal will collapse unless we pay. If we refuse it and Barca cant get salary reduction, then they have to pay much more than 17m that they owe to FDJ. Both United and FDJ agents know that, so unless Barca budge, nothing will happen. And they cant register without selling no matter whatever levers they do. They have salary limitations which they need to overcome by selling players
He really did want it but now its not that case. No self respecting person will continue at a workplace which refuses to pay what is owed and ask you to take salary cut while spending lavish amounts on new recruits. This “stay at Barca” stuff is just public posturing now. Unless FDJ is incredibly stupid to be taken for a ride by Barca, this public posturing is actually a smart move. He has Barca by the balls and there is no reason why he should budge
They can’t force him to take a pay cut. How many times must the same things be repeated in this thread.
Just. Walk. Away.
If he knows he's not wanted he will leave.
Will those missing wages really affect him? Does he not have enough money?
Someone summed it up best when they said this saga is like a rollercoaster, got off to quick start with the 95% Romero thing, then came the dip for weeks until Monday when we were speeding along with Murtough & Arnold flying into Barcelona, however have now left seemingly empty handed so we are dipping yet again.
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It probably does as it would for any professional in any industry being swindled of wages while the company actively recruits others for big money at the same time...
His agent has the right idea being appalled by the way they're treating his client. Just hope he can take his blaugrana tinted shades off soon
Wouldn't he have made that clear behind the scenes right from the off?
Yes and there are reports now that Barca is now pressuring Xavi to exclude him from squad or atleast threaten FDJ that he wont be starter. FDJ knows he cant be forced to take salary cut but why should he waive deferred wage as well. When Barca agrees to pay that, dont think his intention to stay will be that strong considering he isnt wanted there
This is merely speculation. There are players lining up to join Barca, despite clearly seeing that they are struggling to pay salaries.
They cannot, this is true. They also cannot register him plus their new signings so they either pay all their new stars and don't register them in the league or they pay FDJ and don't register him. In this unlikely event the Barca media machine will launch into a full on assault on Frenkie branding him a mercenary who is destroying their special club and make his life a living hell. If you doubt this just look at how they have treated others they wanted rid of in the past. A deal over the deferred wages will be reached before the start of the new league year in Spain and then he will be off, there is not another plausible outcome.
Exactly. He has Barca by the balls so he can do whatever the hell he wants. So to assume the stay talk is just posturing is pure muppetry. Perhaps he really is thick enough to think can reestablish his position there. Perhaps he just loves the city. Who the feck knows ? No one. It is pure fecking poppycock from the muppet brigade.
I cannot believe i skimmed 20 pages to read that "this is ETH's first strike because he won't walk away", that "we should walk away because i'm so bored and tired of refreshing the thread".
If you're so sick of it, go camp in the Martinez thread. Once again we have Ducker confirming 2 days ago that we got the green light from FDJ's camp to continue negotiations, Mitten/Whitwell confirming the same thing, Romero confirming the same thing.
If you are overwhelmed with this saga, then just go away. Go camp the Martinez/Eriksen threads. FFS.
If you're so sick of it, go camp in the Martinez thread. Once again we have Ducker confirming 2 days ago that we got the green light from FDJ's camp to continue negotiations, Mitten/Whitwell confirming the same thing, Romero confirming the same thing.
If you are overwhelmed with this saga, then just go away. Go camp the Martinez/Eriksen threads. FFS.
We have refused to intervene and to be honest i agree with the stand we have taken. We may get FDJ bit late but paying him what Barca owes will set bad precedence and if we dont want to be mugged always, we need to take a stand on it no matter how much public outcry is going to happen if this fails. Think both United and FDJ agents know Barca dont have any other option but to sell, so they are all bidding their time as much as possible. The longer it takes, more pressure on Barca to get it done. Right now they haven’t registered even the free transfer signing and want to buy 120m worth players on top of it.
Mate I think you need a lie down. You can’t stay awake until this thing ends.
I'm good
Not true as most of the journalists that get information from the club have said FDJ is open to move. Romano gets his information from agents. Hence his version is different from Ducker or Laurie.
I just can’t believe that’s true this is pretty basic legal
If FDJ signed anything that took guaranteed payments and made them conditional instead he’s a moron.
In those negotiations FDJ would have had all the power from a legal standpoint.
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