Arnold doesn’t feck about. Mark my words.
Good. Thats how it should be. We shouldnt just keep hanging on for anyone. In future give a run for a player a month at the most. Noone ele seems to drag transfer on like this.
Tier 1 United journos are reporting what Utd told them, same as tier 1 Barca journos are reporting what their club told them. If Frenkie's agent isn't a rookie, then he would have links to some journos in Europe or at least dutch ones to report what is best for his client. I don't see how my priority is to stay even after Barcelona has made it clear they want him out is in his clients best interest.
Great m, we are on the same page now, sort of. As you said, it seems that there might be a way to make the move happen. The problem is that FDJ is not stupid and he has money to hire great legal people, but still he chooses the hard way to fight. Why?
You can say that again
Well Talksport Sources have been good on transfers recently and they touted that deadline so remains to be seen if they have called it
We are dealing with a strange animal though my friend. Barcelona FC. They aren’t like a normal club to do business with believe you me. Look at the smoke and mirrors they have pulled here. I think that’s why both Murtough and Arnold went down to deal with this personally because they needed to let them know ‘we are Manchester United and feck with us as you peril’.
No one reported a firm agreement on that structure like they are with the €75m + €10m now. Ducker himself literally included the phrase "broad agreement" in his article. Ornstein himself was reporting whatever Romano was (i.e. €65m + €20m) and even stated that the structure & payments needed to be negotiated despite an agreement on the total value. Romano himself didn't even state that there was a full agreement on that structure as they were still discussing the add-ons. If the €20m couldn't be agreed on, then that changes the whole deal, which is what we saw happen here.
If he hands in a request he won’t get his bonuses but he would still be entitled to what he is owned for those two years. However like I said for his career he should really think about arrange a good deal.
Probably because Romano is a Barca mouthpiece and i don't think Barca are going to brief him "Frankie won't leave till we pay him that money we owe" it's going to make him the enemy by saying "we don't want him to go, but need him to go to sign more players, and he's refusing, so we can't sign more players because of him"
I think you mean Gerard Romero. Fabrizio Romano has no affiliation with Barcelona
Romano isn't a Barca mouthpiece that would be Romero.
Salary deferring was done by signing a new contract during the pandemic and the deferred amount are paid over four years with his regular salary starting this financial year. He therefore earned 3m and 6m in last two years.
We don't know what he's said, i don't think he's said anything publically apart from the "i'm happy at Barca" line at the international pressers. There is some obvious game afoot, i don't think we would spend 2 months chasing a player who has given an indication he doesnt want to come. We've heard many different things, he's open to a move, he wants his money owned, he doesn't want to leave, he's been convinced to move by Ten Haag... I personally think he's open to coming, but he obviously does not want to lose out on almost 2 years of money, which is why Barca are rolling out the line of "he doesn't want to leave and we can't sign players till he does"
Jeppers to arrive in 5..4..3..2…
Arnold and Murtough are not stupid first and foremost. They did it because it’s possible and will be important for us. It doesn’t mean they will wait forever.
I think what's happening here is that the Barca journos have been told by the club that the player doesn't want to leave.
My only concern is his lack of height.
Oh, no. His free kick is good though.
Make sense.
I remember that they were all practically in agreement that the overall fee was agreed at €85m, but many including Romano I believe, said the fixed aspect was agreed also at €65m. They were saying the the structure of the €20m add ons was still to be agreed.
The whole deferred wages thing as come exclusively from Utd and English based reporters, which makes me believe it's the club brief to them. I see how it's in the interest of the club to brief this but I don't believe is what is holding the transfer.
But then Frenkie's agent shouldn't be silent and letting Utd be the one putting out the full story. He should be waging his own media campaign against Barcelona if De Jong has accepted to move should he be paid.
No one knows if there is something else in the contract signed during the pandemic to defer the salary. Mostly likely there is something so that it is not the best strategy.
It seems they are saying they don't owe him anything, what seems most logical and seems to be coming out is that Frenkie agreed to delay the payment of these deferred wages by adding them to his contracted salary later in to the contract. Thus if his wage was 20m before, it would be 24, this year, 28, etc. Barca are saying he agreed to a pay deal where his payments were changed, so legally they owe him nothing. Which if his agents did put that in his contract they are morons
I’m starting to think he doesn’t have the best representation to be honest. The fact that he allowed his most marketable player to sign a new contract with such a low pay for the first couple of years without guarantees that he’d be owed a big payout in case Barca try to sell him is very sketch. Now he’s trying to save his own reputation by playing an unwinnable game by refusing to leave to get some money but it sounds like Frenkie will definitely have to let some of that money go.
I don't believe it's sensible move for Ali Dursun to wage a campaign against Barca via the media. And from what's been reported, Ali Dursun and Barcelona’s working relationship is broken. The agent in question is on good terms with United from what's reported.
Why would he do that?
The question is if he legally is owed those wages or not. If he was this wouldn’t even be happening. Sounds like the agent and Frenkie agreed to take a big pay cut for the first half of his contract and backloaded a ton of wages with a loyalty bonus towards the end. They are genuine idiots if that’s the case and should have always anticipated that Barca could sell him midway through the contract to avoid paying the large salary.
I would expect United to only offer something like half of what Barca owe De Jong.
Why should he let any of the money go?
This.
Maybe because he has more class than that.
