Antony | Here we go! €100mill, contract until June 2027, option 'til 2028.

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I think the price will be less than reported, or at least staged more. We need reinforcements in attack & ETH knows the player so will surely fit into his ideology.

Go with it.
 

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low ball progression? isn't that the complete opposite, Antony actually progresses the ball really well?

The other stats boys will confirm/deny.

I've seen him burn fullbacks from a stand still quite regularly. Anyway, pace isn't everything. Decision making at the end of it is far more important, and he certainly has that.
Statistically, he is closer to Dembélé and Vinicius than any of the other players mentioned. A high amount of passes(+40 per game) and a high amount of carries(+11 per game), anyone that is above 10 progressive carries per game is a bit special. He presses a bit less than Dembélé and a lot less than Vinicius but both Dembélé and Antony are good at it when you consider their contribution in possession.
 

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I think the price will be less than reported, or at least staged more. We need reinforcements in attack & ETH knows the player so will surely fit into his ideology.

Go with it.
Not a chance. Ajax made it very clear what the price is and like with Martinez, they'll stick with it.
 

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Pay the money, 68m and summer incomings are done.
If we pay that or close to it I think well abandon the De Jong pursuit, I believe its between the two of them in terms of price.
Not necessarily
Including the fee we've agreed for FDJ we've spent around £120m which is reportedly our budget(£14m on Malacia, £64m on FDJ, Eriksen free and £46m on Lisandro)
Bailly, Andreas, Laird/AWB Telles, Williams and Axel could generate £50-60m in sales which might be enough to get Antony
That's excluding Ronaldo whom we could get a small fee and astronomical wages off the books to give us leeway possibly for a new CF too
 

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Antony for me is comfortably a better player than David Neres was for Ajax. Neres I thought was a very average player who was effective at Ajax for a while. But as far as naturally ability goes, Antony is comfortably a better player and more exciting to watch.

someone also mentioned Moussa Diaby, but I'd say Diaby is a transition player that is most effective at exploiting space in counter attacking situations. And for me Antony is a winger/playmaker with a higher level of technical quality, which is evident against teams who sit back in compact low blocks.

I've liked the player ever since he moved to Ajax from Sao Paulo. And my post history will attest to that. And I maintain that if we do sign him, he'll be a very good signing that not only exudes class on the ball, but also has the work ethic and intensity to match off the ball. Still only 22 years of age and will get better imo.
 

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All his goals and assists last season. He really has got a beautiful left peg. :drool:

He reminds me so much of Robben. You know what he wants to do but it’s hard to stop.

What a quality fluid attack we could have with Sancho, Martial, Rashford and Antony. All interchangeable.

 

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He will cost more after the World Cup and there will be a lot more competition next summer. We have to get him now. Negotiate the price down some and throw in a player. Laird, Elanga or Amad should do it.
 

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Do we still have money for Frenkie after this or has that already been set aside? Our budget is supposedly 150M + player sales, isn’t it? Cos i think Antony can be signed in a matter of days while Frenkie will be drag for a further month
 

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Statistically, he is closer to Dembélé and Vinicius than any of the other players mentioned. A high amount of passes(+40 per game) and a high amount of carries(+11 per game), anyone that is above 10 progressive carries per game is a bit special. He presses a bit less than Dembélé and a lot less than Vinicius but both Dembélé and Antony are good at it when you consider their contribution in possession.
Jadon was on 9.58 per 90 and it was an offseason for him. Two elite ball carrying wingers :drool:
 

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What astounds me is Ajax will probably sell £55m plus Laird so accounts at £69m
And they would have received In player sales probably €175m then they will spend €75M max and be just as good as last year, ETH was just stage one, we need Edwin Van de sar to replace Richard Arnold next and bingo we will start to behave like an proper club again.
 

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We waited too long in the window. If we agreed a fee before Ajax sold half of their team we could probably have gotten a decent deal.
No. EtH acknowledged very early on that a deal for Antony would have been very difficult. It was never in their plans to sell this window so we were always going to have to pay through the nose.
 

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What astounds me is Ajax will probably sell £55m plus Laird so accounts at £69m
And they would have received In player sales probably €175m then they will spend €75M max and be just as good as last year, ETH was just stage one, we need Edwin Van de sar to replace Richard Arnold next and bingo we will start to behave like an proper club again.
I keep hearing this suggestion, but I was under the impression that both have very different roles in their respective clubs. I don't think VDS would necessarily be qualified to handle the roles expected in Arnold's job.
 

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What astounds me is Ajax will probably sell £55m plus Laird so accounts at £69m
And they would have received In player sales probably €175m then they will spend €75M max and be just as good as last year, ETH was just stage one, we need Edwin Van de sar to replace Richard Arnold next and bingo we will start to behave like an proper club again.
That would be amazing but would you give up a CEO position to become a chief executive? I’d be surprised if anyone would.
 

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Jadon was on 9.58 per 90 and it was an offseason for him. Two elite ball carrying wingers :drool:
Yeah, around 10 is very good, Antony was at 11.60 last season which puts him around Messi and between the likes of Neymar and Dembélé. I always find that stat baffling because the gap between a pretty good dribbler like Mané and arguably the best in Dembélé is massive, Messi used to have an even larger dominance.
 

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Antony for me is comfortably a better player than David Neres was for Ajax. Neres I thought was a very average player who was effective at Ajax for a while. But as far as naturally ability goes, Antony is comfortably a better player and more exciting to watch.
I thought Neres was very special when he just joined, but I think he suffered from being deployed as a classic winger by Bosz and to a lesser degree by ETH. His post-injury spells haven't shown too much promise, but if he gets back to his natural play I think he could make for an excellent 4-4-2 wide midfielder or an attacking midfielder in a similar system. His eye for timing and passes had something special about them, while when used as a more generic winger, he is average and imo very underutilized (again, if his post-injury state improves). Schmidt at Benfica will probably try a 4-2-2-2, so I hope that helps him.

As an actual winger Antony is indeed much better. He is also faster than he might seem and I think that could offer something ETH really loves on at least one of his wings, the way he's been sent forward by the midfielders.

We could have a front three of Ant(h)onys.

Anthony Elanga, Anthony Martial and Antony.
An3ny at your service :cool:
 

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If we suddenly pushed ahead with a deal to sign Anthony, all the De Jong fans should be very worried. I can’t see us signing both.
 

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If we suddenly pushed ahead with a deal to sign Anthony, all the De Jong fans should be very worried. I can’t see us signing both.
Said it earlier not necessarily
Including the fee we've agreed for FDJ we've spent around £120m which is reportedly our budget(£14m on Malacia, £64m on FDJ, Eriksen free and £46m on Lisandro)
Bailly, Andreas, Laird/AWB Telles, Williams and Axel could generate £50-60m in sales which might be enough to get Antony
That's excluding Ronaldo whom we could get a small fee and astronomical wages off the books to give us leeway possibly for a new CF too
 

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I just feel it in my gut that this won't happen, I hope I'm wrong as he'd be a very exciting addition. I wish Greenwood wasn't such a fecking idiot so we could spend this kind of money on the midfield instead though.
 

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If we suddenly pushed ahead with a deal to sign Anthony, all the De Jong fans should be very worried. I can’t see us signing both.
De Jong is the priority signing which reliable sources like Ducker have said we are so in for him we are happy to keep going until even after the season starts. It’s not like the Antony links have just appeared, he’s been on our radar since ten Hag joined.
 

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De Jong & Antony final two signings this window? If we obviously can agree a fee with Ajax for the latter of course.

Would have loved to have signed a DM but there has hardly been any word that we are in for one this summer.
 

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What astounds me is Ajax will probably sell £55m plus Laird so accounts at £69m
And they would have received In player sales probably €175m then they will spend €75M max and be just as good as last year, ETH was just stage one, we need Edwin Van de sar to replace Richard Arnold next and bingo we will start to behave like an proper club again.
I’m confused - even putting aside the fact VDS has sod all to do with who they sign - are you saying Ajax’s model of buying young players, developing them and then selling for profit is the model Manchester United should take? Because I’m not really sure how that would make us a “proper” club.
 

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Ajax are a selling club, we pay the price they want and we will get him, simple as that. As clubs go they seem quite easy to do business with in that regard. I think its imperative we add another attacker to his squad.
 

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Ajax are a selling club, we pay the price they want and we will get him, simple as that. As clubs go they seem quite easy to do business with in that regard. I think its imperative we add another attacker to his squad.
Ajax is only a selling club because there are highest leagues to go to. The philosophy could also work here at Utd. Going for you talents and develop them into first team players. The thing that works really well for Ajax is that players like Botman who don't make it, still sell for decent money. You can invest that money into the first team(or new talented players).
 

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I don't know why, I still just feel like this isn't something that'll happen.
 

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If we suddenly pushed ahead with a deal to sign Anthony, all the De Jong fans should be very worried. I can’t see us signing both.
De Jong will clearly happen if possible. People should probably stop imagining what our budget is. We don’t have one.
 
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