For a man who dislikes stubbornness, that’s quite a stubborn response to De Jong’s dilemma.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Anything is possible, but i don't think it'll happen. If it was, it'll have been known about by now.
Chelsea were supposedly interested, but it was only reports from Spain saying that, nothing from the English media at all. Well, nothing that wasn't quoting the Spanish reports.
I'm pretty sure ten Hag has his assurances that he wants to join United, so hopefully we'll get him soon
Cracked?! That post was something else, just……. Wow!
No one is paying over 100m for him, he isn't worth that. At 85m United are already overpaying.
there was someone tweeting that united discussed paying the wages/offered to pay the wages but it couldn't be done due to taxes or some other nonsense. forgot who tweeted it or if it was even reliable but if that's the case any other club is still in the same situation waiting for the deferred wages to be resolved.
They told him if he reduced his wages to help them, they’d pay it back over the rest of the revised contract. He did and now they want him to feck off and forget the 17m?
A couple of mill, fine, you’re paid a lot, choose the club/manager/future that you think is best …. but SEVENTEEN million when he knows they fecked him over? I‘d be stubborn, in fact I’d be fecking livid.
Cheers Frenkie, Son's crying.
Similar to Carrick in his use of the ball in possession and hos defensive style out of it (more interceptions and reading the game than actual tackles) but that's were the similarities end for me.
Frenkie is a lot quicker, much better dribbler and more press resistant. He also goes wandering a lot more than Carrick so won't always be there to protect the back 4
Why is that a worry? That would be a blessing as it would be the only thing to make United come to their senses. Chasing after this guy has been almost on a par with the Maguire transfer. They'll probably end up getting shafted financially in a similar fashion too.
Are you infact Heung Min Son angling for a move to United which is being blocked by the Frenkie transfer? The personal dislike might make sense then.
Because he's really good and exactly what we need.
23 pages to the 1000 mark.
It can be done.
Did he ever play at CB before?
It can be done.
Did he ever play at CB before?
More likely a move to Barcelona, presumably for 17m per year.
Yes, he has played CB before, for Ajax and also for Koeman at Barcelona.
If we had done no business I could understand this stance, but we’ve signed 3 other players while this has been unfolding. Being patient for Frenkie has literally cost us nothing, and will probably mean we sign one of the best young players in his position in the world. I’d say that patience has paid off in that scenario.
#patienceforfrenkie
Now we will have 10 CB at the club. Should probably look elsewhere.
I think this could be a case of Barca using us to get what they want and that is forcing frankie to accept worse contracted wages.
We've signed 3 players, got Frenkie to come and i'd say there is likely going to be at least one more. I really don't see us not signing another striker. Especially if Ronaldo goes on load as is mooted to be the case
Chelsea are seen as the most likely but that is the Spanish media and he is not the type of player they actually need at this point. They are still desperate for at least one more and preferably two starting caliber CBs alongside someone to actually put the ball in the net at the other end and so FDJ would be low priority. Certainly a quick glance at the Shed End boards make it clear that the fans don't want him and see no need for him. I would also think if Barca do pull off the move for Kounde after what they already pulled off with Raphina then it would be a cold day in hell before Boehly hands them a cheque to ease their financial issues even if it is for a quality player.
No way LVG will leave him out of the WC squad, even if he plays golf only between now and November!
Frenkie "Oh boy ,oh boy, oh boy"
I'm here for the long haul, I have bets on with my none United mates that he will be a United player this season.
To all those saying Chelsea don't need FDJ.
What if Tuchel also sees him as a CB in a 3 ?
What if Tuchel also sees him as a CB in a 3 ?
My team wants me sold, I wonder why
I went out on tour at all
Morning rain clouds up my window
I'm Avoiding Ten Hag’s calls,
And even if I could, i'd call my agent today,
But my wage from this transfer stall
Reminds me, that it’s not so bad
It’s not so bad.
Dear Frenkie, you’ve still not signed for us, I know you’ve had the chance,
I am mad, and I think it’s fecked up you don’t answer Hag,
If you didn’t want to talk to me outside the Nou Camp, cos I’m subclass, but you could of signed an autograph for @Berbaclass,
He’s a little bothered man, his minds only 6 years old,
He waited in the blistering cold for you for four hours and you just said ‘no’
Don’t sign for City man, you’ll never be their idol,
Come sign for us, we’ll love you like Ronaldo,
Remember that time we met in Spain, you said if I bid for you would you sign up
See, I’m just like you in a way,
I don’t like Laporta neither,
he always cheats of his taxes, the cheater
I can’t relate to what they’re saying in their Tweets,
So when I have a shitty day I hide away under the sheets
Cos we haven’t really got shit else, so that shit helps when I’m depressed,
I even got a tattoo of ‘de Jong’ across my chest,
Sometime Barca will need to cut their budget, let’s see who leaves,
Like Depay, Braithwaite and you will be set free,
See, not everything Xavi says is real, but I respect you cos you listen
Your girlfriend’s jealous cos fans talk about you 24/7,
But she don’t know you like Hag knows you frenkie, no one does,
She don’t know what it was like for you at Ajax, growing up, you got to call him man,
He’ll be the biggest fan you’ll ever lose,
Sincerely yours, Murtough,
PS, you can play midfield too
Barca trying to sell FDJ to Chelsea by playing him at CB.. awful club 
Thanks
That might necessitate a drop in the extremely high standard of comments in this thread.
I know lots of dad jokes to help get us over the line?
/s obvs.Yes.... the, um... extremely high standard of comments...
That’s Irrelevant. It’s more important as to where Frenkie sees himself and I’d wager it isn’t a CBTo all those saying Chelsea don't need FDJ.
What if Tuchel also sees him as a CB in a 3 ?
Normally I would agree 100% but my issue is that this guy has shown no public desire to join United and just imagine he ends up being a dud, which is not beyond the realms of impossibility. It may not have cost us anything but I'm sure that there are equally viable targets that we could have got over the line during all this time.
You only behave like this for the Mbappe, Messi, Haaland, Kane level deals....not Frenkie fecking de Jong.
There’s no way he’ll accept a pay cut when he saw how Barcelona are trying to fleece him out of his 17m.
FIFA/UEFA rules reportedly prevent the deferred wages being paid directly by a buying club (in this case United).
I suppose there is no reason why Chelsea or some other club couldn't offer €17m more than Barca's asking price for the player (thereby effectively paying off the outstanding wages, albeit indirectly). This would presumably circumvent the FIFA/UEFA rules. It doesn't look like anyone is particularly keen to do this at the moment, which leaves Barca to negotiate a settlement with De Jong before any transfer can happen.
I very much doubt Ten Hag will want to sign players he doesn’t really know this year, maybe next year he will be more open to that but if we cannot get his players this year he’ll just try to assess and develop the current group. This won’t be limited just to senior players in the squad but also youngsters.
Rather sad to watch. It's like the other players were told to not show for a pass, and Real was in on it. Definitely no enjoyment for Frenkie in that position. He should've tried to score an OG for kicks, since it was only a friendly. There was one pass to the GK that had a bit of mustard on it that looked like Frenkie was tempted.
One guy (Sbates?) mentioned this, once. Is there any other source for that?
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