Antony | Here we go! €100mill, contract until June 2027, option 'til 2028.

[Nou_Camp99]

"Unproven" (to your standard) and raw isn"t the same thing. His game is actually very well rounded and well coached, making the right decisions a lot of time, good on and off the ball. It's just nonsense.

Ziyech was better but has been very poorly used and scouted, how well did Werner, Lukaku, Pulisic, Havertz do for Chelsea? All their forwards have been crap, and we as a team have been crap as well.

Donny van de Beek is one of the least talented out of that entire bunch, a system player with barely any individual brilliance.

If he was this good he'd have teams falling over themselves to sign him surely? Doesn't look like we have any competition for him.

I'm not saying he won't become a top player but it's way too soon to be saying he is based on Dutch football..

 

[Kostov]

People really do think it’s FM where you can backload contracts with millions in goal bonuses that will never be realised.

You aren’t getting Martinez for less than what we paid, & you certainly aren’t getting an Antony for €40million. He may well not prove worth the money spent [we’ve got a few of those here already] but at the point of purchase you can’t say you overpaid when you weren’t getting him for less. Give him a season at least.

So we were pretty right when we paid 80m pounds for Maguire as well?

 

[Kostov]

He cost us £50m from the Ukrainian league

That was embarrassing and nothing to gloat about.

 

[mu4c_20le]

If he was this good he'd have teams falling over themselves to sign him surely? Doesn't look like we have any competition for him.

I'm not saying he won't become a top player but it's way too soon to be saying he is based on Dutch football..

Liverpool and Barca were interested until they signed Diaz and raphinha. They went for more proven players but there was competition in the last 6 months

 

[mu4c_20le]

That was embarrassing and nothing to gloat about.

Didn't work out as well as we'd hoped, bit that's the going rate for a Brazilian international with CL experience

 

[Kostov]

Didn't work out as well as we'd hoped, bit that's the going rate for a Brazilian international with CL experience

No it's not. The same summer we bought Fred for 59m euros, Liverpool bought Fabinho for 45m euros.

 

[mu4c_20le]

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[allesreiniger]

I thought we're still waiting for him to sort out his wage issue with Barca. Barca sources again came out today saying that he has to take a pay cut or leave.

Don’t know where this comes from. Just heard in holland that the price even went up to about 100m

 

[Trex]

We have zero depth in attack and midfield after loosing Cavani, Greenwood, Mata, Lingard, Pogba, Matic only bringing in Eriksen.
It weird because we seem relaxed going into next season with zero depth. We need more additions else we're going to have a very long season when some of the starters get injured.

 

[Trex]

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Well its done!!

 

[allesreiniger]

Why is he so expensive though?

Or rather, how could Bayern get Gravenberch so cheap while we have to pay an arm and a leg for any Ajax player? Was his contract expiring, or... what?

Gravenberg only had 1 year contract left, Antony 3 I believe. Then, there was a nasty trend goung on at Ajax, mainly related to agent Raiola, where young players stretch there contracts to be able to leave on a free. That was also about to happen with Gravenberg and as Ajax already suffered a lost a huge amount of money on transferred fees that way, they chose to let him go. And Ajax doesn’t get a truckload of cash from tv-rights as they do in the PL.
Besides that, Gravenberg was by far not as performant as Antony even though he has a shitload of talent.

 

[AndySmith1990]

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Isn't that exactly what happened with Martinez before they eventually softened their stance

 

[prateik]

They dont want to sell.. 80m was silly money.. 80+20 bonus suggests they dont even want clubs to try and negotiate..

Fair.. their player.. they dont need the money and they dont want to sell.

If the reports are true, I hope we get the fecking clue and move on...

 

[prateik]

Isn't that exactly what happened with Martinez before they eventually softened their stance

softened their stance? We paid a lot for Martinez.. way more than the £40m we had initially bid.

 

[Andycoleno9]

IF this 100 mil request is true means that starting bid is fixed on 80 mil and "we can talk about that 20 mil in bonusses".

Not happening this (unless we decide to spend nearly 100 mil on him which would be insane).

 

[Mickeza]

They dont want to sell.. 80m was silly money.. 80+20 bonus suggests they dont even want clubs to try and negotiate..

Fair.. their player.. they dont need the money and they dont want to sell.

If the reports are true, I hope we get the fecking clue and move on...

I don’t think it is fair at all. He’s 22 and has now outgrown the Dutch league. Ajax offer South American players the chance to develop and then move on for a fair price - that’s their entire MO - and he has the chance for a dream move under a manager he adores and they’re asking for a truly absurd price. If I was Antony I’d be absolutely fecking livid. Ajax know he won’t push that hard for a move because we won’t tell him to due to our “special relationship” which seems to involve us giving them feck tons of money for their players.

 

[Trex]

I don’t think it is fair at all. He’s 22 and has now outgrown the Dutch league. Ajax offer South American players the chance to develop and then move on for a fair price - that’s their entire MO - and he has the chance for a dream move under a manager he adores and they’re asking for a truly absurd price. If I was Antony I’d be absolutely fecking livid.

He's under contract they can do whatever they want they have to consider their own situation. They're challenging for the league as well as participating in the UCL. They've lost their manager and about 4 starters.

 

[Drainy]

I don’t think it is fair at all. He’s 22 and has now outgrown the Dutch league. Ajax offer South American players the chance to develop and then move on for a fair price - that’s their entire MO - and he has the chance for a dream move under a manager he adores and they’re asking for a truly absurd price. If I was Antony I’d be absolutely fecking livid.

They have a lot of leverage coming into a winter World Cup and his long contract.

All he has is their reputation for selling potentially impacting new signings if they prevent him from moving on, but that's not really going to happen.

 

[the_cliff]

Don’t know where this comes from. Just heard in holland that the price even went up to about 100m

I was talking about De Jong mate not Antony. Hence the mention of Barcelona.

I like Antony as a player but if the 100mill reports are true we have to do a Sancho and wait till next season or look for a plan B. No way is the current Antony worth 100mill.

 

[Mickeza]

He's under contract they can do whatever they want they have to consider their own situation. They're challenging for the league as well as participating in the UCL. They've lost their manager and about 4 starters.

Where did I say they can’t do whatever they want? It’s still utterly shite for the player and not good for his development. He now needs to be playing regularly at a higher level than the Dutch league.

 

[Andycoleno9]

I don’t think it is fair at all. He’s 22 and has now outgrown the Dutch league. Ajax offer South American players the chance to develop and then move on for a fair price - that’s their entire MO - and he has the chance for a dream move under a manager he adores and they’re asking for a truly absurd price. If I was Antony I’d be absolutely fecking livid. Ajax know he won’t push that hard for a move because we won’t tell him to due to our “special relationship” which seems to involve us giving them feck tons of money for their players.

It has nothing with what is fair or not. They can do whatever they want. He has contract with them. Nobody is forcing players to sign contracts with clubs and to sign them without specific clauses (minimum fee). He signed, he is payed to play for them and that is it.

 

[roonster09]

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Yeah, would say game over. Hopefully we have one or two options for this season, we can sign him next season before they lose half of their team.

 

[Trex]

Where did I say they can’t do whatever they want? It’s still utterly shite for the player and not good for his development. He now needs to be playing regularly at a higher level than the Dutch league.

It looks like he'll have to wait a year for that, we need another winger though unless we're going to rely on the likes of Amad, Pellistri and Elanga.

 

[skc_18]

If we go by our past transfers, we won’t be able to buy FDG , would panic and end up paying more for Antony.

 

[AjaxCunian]

One thing is that his former club gets 20% over any fee above 15 million euro's I believe.

So Ajax is going to add a premium over his fee, and yes Ajax really doesn't want him to leave.

He will transfer next year.

 

[prateik]

I don’t think it is fair at all. He’s 22 and has now outgrown the Dutch league. Ajax offer South American players the chance to develop and then move on for a fair price - that’s their entire MO - and he has the chance for a dream move under a manager he adores and they’re asking for a truly absurd price. If I was Antony I’d be absolutely fecking livid. Ajax know he won’t push that hard for a move because we won’t tell him to due to our “special relationship” which seems to involve us giving them feck tons of money for their players.

I'm talking about it from our point of view.. I have no issues with a club wanting to keep a wantaway player who is under contract..
There is no way I would be annoyed at Ajax if they didnt want to sell their players..

If Ajax had a verbal agreement with Anthony about a fee they would accept, its between them.. If not, and its something that pisses Anthony off/other players off.. they can start including release clauses when they sign for clubs..

 

[Godfather]

Yeah move on he is not THAT good. Why not look at Jeremy Doku?

 

[GreatDane]

100%, We need to try and keep Ronaldo and add Antony aswell… Antony and sancho creating for Ronaldo will = in him getting 30+ goals this season.

Enough with this catering to Ronaldo, that fecked us last season.
Play as a team and we will score enough goals, pass it to Ronaldo and we won't get anywhere.

 

[WPMUFC]

Game over folks....shut it down.

 

[Zlatanator]

Amad and Facundo are lying around for ages and we invested a lot for them, why can't the manager work on them instead, this sounds so silly to me. Better spend the money on a back up for Martial.

 

[RkkMan]

Amad and Facundo are lying around for ages and we invested a lot for them, why can't the manager work on them instead, this sounds so silly to me. Better spend the money on a back up for Martial.

Because none of them have shown enough here or elsewhere for 2yrs now. They both need loans
We can always sign another RW unlike FDJ Antony isn't special and we can easily find cheaper alternatives equally as good

 

[red thru&thru]

Amazing how a tweet which is not favourable can create such a meltdown! Haha.

 

[mitchmouse]

Enough with this catering to Ronaldo, that fecked us last season.
Play as a team and we will score enough goals, pass it to Ronaldo and we won't get anywhere.

and who is magically going to score all those goals? we've been there before with Rashford and (more particularly) Martial: he was very poor last season when you'd think he was playing for his future

 

[mitchmouse]

This one is like a bloody flashing light: it's on... oh wait, it's off. No hang on, it's on. errr, oh...

 

[Trex]

Amazing how a tweet which is not favourable can create such a meltdown! Haha.

Its from the most credible source for Ajax news so yeah its reliable.

 

[VP89]

Amazing how a tweet which is not favourable can create such a meltdown! Haha.

Credible journalist that's why.

I wouldn't say game over though. Ajax know that fee is unreasonable, and they know Antony will kick up a fuss if we actually make a formal bid that's a fair representation of his worth.

 

[E-mal]

100%, We need to try and keep Ronaldo and add Antony aswell… Antony and sancho creating for Ronaldo will = in him getting 30+ goals this season.

Well, the aim is to have a functioning team that wins games, it's not about Ronaldo scoring goals and the rest of the team not doing so well. We where a better team before he came back.

 

[red thru&thru]

Its from the most credible source for Ajax news so yeah its reliable.

I never said it wasn't reliable. But there is also reliable information from the likes of their manager and executives that no play of Ajax is unsellable.

Ajax quoting a high fee is just normal. We will negotiate with Ajax, just like we'd negotiate a fee with any club. I just don't understand the calls to close the thread down, as this transfer can't happen.

 

[red thru&thru]

Credible journalist that's why.

I wouldn't say game over though. Ajax know that fee is unreasonable, and they know Antony will kick up a fuss if we actually make a formal bid that's a fair representation of his worth.

Yeah, agreed. Just the meltdown amuses me. It's though fans have never experienced a transfer before.

 

[Trex]

I never sais it wasn't reliable. But there is also reliable information from the likes of their manager and executives that no play of Ajax is unsellable.

Ajax quoting a high fee is just normal. We will negotiate with Ajax, just like we'd negotiate a fee with any club. I just don't understand the calls to close the thread down, as this transfer can't happen.

I wouldn't place any bet on this happening, the gap between what they want and what we would realistically pay is quite high, it would be Maguire level overpaying.