Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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The exit operation must be accelerated to avoid problems of LaLiga registering signings
Mates, done dealio. This will be over before September 1.
Yes, let’s hope ‘things are happening!’
Frenkie will tell Barca to cough up the money then he'll leave.
They know he's got their bollox in a vice and he's turning the handle with every day that passes. They need to pay up if they want him to go
They know he's got their bollox in a vice and he's turning the handle with every day that passes. They need to pay up if they want him to go
It has to.. Barca don’t have many cards left to play.. times running out
Not very likely as apparently we are down to stems & seeds.
If he doesn't want to go to Manchester, he sure ain't gonna like Leicester.
Yeah, that’s not it dawg.
At least when we have forced out players we did so better. We will always have that.
Just shows how much faith a lot of people have in these reports from Spain.
Transfers like this require you to keep an open mind and look at things from all angles
I wish they’d just fecking pay him the money and have some balls. Say here’s the money now get out.
Has your owner not allowed any spending, or is this a FFP issue?
pretty sure Barca are running out of options now, and thats eventually whats going to have to happen
No idea who that source is.
If they pay him the money then won't he just sign on reduced terms like everybody else safe in the knowledge he got what he was owed?
There is a noticeable shift in the Spanish media from “FDJ doesn’t want to leave” to “FDJ doesn’t want to leave but he will have to if he doesn’t take a pay cut”
If he was taking a pay cut, it’d be done months ago. And with Barca now offering him some of the deferred wages, the ‘operation’ to move him on is clearly in full swing.
I’m probably the most confident I’ve been since the initial impasse over the wages was revealed.
He’ll not play our first PL game, obviously, but I wouldn’t be surprised if this was all looking a lot more promising from all sides in a weeks time.
If he was taking a pay cut, it’d be done months ago. And with Barca now offering him some of the deferred wages, the ‘operation’ to move him on is clearly in full swing.
I’m probably the most confident I’ve been since the initial impasse over the wages was revealed.
He’ll not play our first PL game, obviously, but I wouldn’t be surprised if this was all looking a lot more promising from all sides in a weeks time.
The poster was a Barca fan, so obviously just lapping it all up.
FdJ can afford not to blink at all.
Barca have to blink eventually.
only one winner in this situation
I don't listen to newspaper news. Gerard Romero and little else.
I just don't think that such an important transfer for both teams and has been paralyzed for 2 months for 17M.
If that were the problem it would have been negotiated a long time ago. Paying both the amount halfway or something similar.
The 17m is money that he should’ve had already… he’s due something like 88m over the course of his contract. They’re wanting to halve that
What exactly are the figures? If they pay him £17m he'll go, but if he stays, the big contract kicks in? So, it's £17m against...?
Would you want to stay at the club after they treated you like that?
Will be interesting who is & isn't playing on match day 1 if FdJ hasn't left yet. Only vs Rayo so they could afford to not have Lewa et al playing yet, but would be delicious if they lost points because they weren't able to play them.
United seems more than happy to let this drag on, although it can cost us points as well.
but do they have levers left to pull ?
I agree with you, the pay cut isn't a realistic option for him, and thats pretty plain to see. If it was, you rightly pointed out, he'd have done it by now and this would have been put to bed.
The fact that he's not, and the fact that United are still hanging around, even though the reports coming out of Spain have been "Frenkie wants to stay and has no intention of going to United" tell me that things aren't as they seem. ten Hag obviously knows a lot more than anyone in the media does, and he's obviously convinced that de Jong wants to come. He'd only know that if the player himself told him, or his agent has told him on de Jongs behalf, and with as much as FdJ and EtH apparently talk, i know where i think he got his assurances from. This transfer will be done, and i'm guessing as the seasons start ticks closer, Barca will be getting twitchy
Do you not think barca have been holding out in the hope he might reduce his contract?
Why would de Jong accept half of the money he's owed? He did the club a massive favour and it's being thrown in his face. It's insulting.
BarcaStudios and BLM (this in principle will not be sold)
I completely agree. But what do we know. Just a couple of muppets aimlessly refreshing the same thread all summer
Does the selling of your club to fund short term projects not terrify you?
I think Barca have been holding out and making de Jongs life a bit of a misery with his position changing, then inferring he's going to be a backup etc in the hopes that he just gets fed up and asks to leave. If he does that, he's going to lose everything he's owed and Barca are likely hoping for that outcome
Haha it's worth it though. Just wait until we see that magical tweet by United saying he's signed. It'll be worth it!!I completely agree. But what do we know. Just a couple of muppets aimlessly refreshing the same thread all summer
Hell, even the Here We Go Romano tweet will be a sight to behold
How can you be so cock sure on this
No, Barcelona want to sell him and United want to buy him. If the operation was not done, it is because the player does not want to leave.
If it were only for the €17M, long ago it would have been resolved.
Starts for Barcelona
He’s very obviously in Xavis plans even ifthe board disagree
He’s very obviously in Xavis plans even ifthe board disagree
Convinced that's what happens
Probably not, in order to pay him that money they need a significant transfer fee. He is their most valuable asset that can be sold at the moment. The likelihood of them finding anyone else they can ship off at a similar fee is very low. That has a knock on effect on their transfer incomings and registrations. Then there's the massive difference in pay between us and Barca. He'll get what.. £350k-400k here? If he cuts his wage in half with Barca that will be considerably less. Then there's the issue with how Barca have been treating him.
It seems very unlikely that de Jong would take a pay cut or that Barca would pay what they owe without selling him.
Yeah, that's the case for the last few weeks. Before that, I genuinely think they thought he would take another pay cut, like Dembele has done. But now they're obviously trying to force him out of the door in a way that saves them money. I'm not entirely sure on the financial implications if he hands in a transfer request, but I'm sure he loses a chunk of his signing on fee or loyalty bonuses. Barca are just trying to save themselves money here.
Then why haven't Barca paid him the £17m they owe him?
Really doesn't matter if he starts or if he's a sub. He'll be taken off at HT.
Starting isn’t ideal. Get with the club message Xavi. Know your role.
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