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Will you guys sign another forward? From a quality standpoint, you definitely could use another goal scorer. But it doesn't seem necessary from a numbers standpoint as Werner and Lukaku are replacled by Sterling and Broja and the former two had only about 2800 minutes combined in the league last year. Alongside Havertz, Mount, Pulisic, Ziyech (if he stays), and maybe Gallagher if he is played in the front three that is still 6 or 7 players for three positions.
 

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Malang Sarr off on loan with obligation to buy at roughly 15m euros. Depends on appearances.

Werner too. Slowly, very slowly, trimming the squad
 

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Malang Sarr off on loan with obligation to buy at roughly 15m euros. Depends on appearances.

Werner too. Slowly, very slowly, trimming the squad
Sarr deal is a good one considering we got him on a free and only paid him 1 years worth of wages. I believe that was always the plan with him anyway. Scoop up a highly rated young player on a free who probably would never be good enough for us and sell him on a couple years later.
 

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Will you guys sign another forward? From a quality standpoint, you definitely could use another goal scorer. But it doesn't seem necessary from a numbers standpoint as Werner and Lukaku are replacled by Sterling and Broja and the former two had only about 2800 minutes combined in the league last year. Alongside Havertz, Mount, Pulisic, Ziyech (if he stays), and maybe Gallagher if he is played in the front three that is still 6 or 7 players for three positions.
We need one. I suspect both Ziyech and CHO will also go. Who it'll be? No idea. If I was to guess, based on absolutely sod all, I think a move for Depay on a free isn't beyond possibility.
 

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Sarr deal is a good one considering we got him on a free and only paid him 1 years worth of wages. I believe that was always the plan with him anyway. Scoop up a highly rated young player on a free who probably would never be good enough for us and sell him on a couple years later.
Of course i forgot Alonso too. If Sarr move gets triggered, roughly 50-55m euros brought in alone. Alonso 10. Werner reported 30. Sarr 15
 

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Sarr deal is a good one considering we got him on a free and only paid him 1 years worth of wages. I believe that was always the plan with him anyway. Scoop up a highly rated young player on a free who probably would never be good enough for us and sell him on a couple years later.
With an obligation to buy at 15m, that's fantastic.
 

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Problem with Werner wasn’t just his finishing. He was first or near first on the team in every bad category like turnovers. And last or near last in every good category like chances created, successful dribbles.

He is where offense goes to die. If you intentionally kicked the ball out of bounds every time it came near you, your stat line would be similar to Werners. So much promise. Maybe he will remember how to play football with an RB return.
 

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Of course i forgot Alonso too. If Sarr move gets triggered, roughly 50-55m euros brought in alone. Alonso 10. Werner reported 30. Sarr 15
If we win this years netspend trophy it will probably be the biggest comeback of all time. That said i kind of hope we go mental and have a 1/2 billion net spend as the outrage would be glorious.
 

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If we win this years netspend trophy it will probably be the biggest comeback of all time. That said i kind of hope we go mental and have a 1/2 billion net spend as the outrage would be glorious.
Transfer window net spend remontada :lol:
 

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If we win this years netspend trophy it will probably be the biggest comeback of all time. That said i kind of hope we go mental and have a 1/2 billion net spend as the outrage would be glorious.
That's true for those think we are no more a threat in market. It's a slap on their face. Now they go back to chelsea ruin football tag I assume. :lol:
 

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That's true for those think we are no more a threat in market. It's a slap on their face. Now they go back to chelsea ruin football tag I assume. :lol:
I had empathy in the past as lets be real it must have sucked watching any club showing serious ambition while their respective one had shit/pennypinching owners/chairman who couldn't give a crap but given how many times i read/heard people taking glee and even wishing us out of business during that uncertain period (something i'd never wish on any club and especially supporters who's club is a big part of their life) feck them :lol:
 

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I had empathy in the past as lets be real it must have sucked watching any club showing serious ambition while their respective one had shit/pennypinching owners/chairman who couldn't give a crap but given how many times i read/heard people taking glee and even wishing us out of business during that uncertain period (something i'd never wish on any club and especially supporters who's club is a big part of their life) feck them :lol:
Yeah it started with them wishing us out of business and then it was “goodbye spending millions”. One day their sweeping statements might actually be correct
 

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Yeah it started with them wishing us out of business and then it was “goodbye spending millions”. One day their sweeping statements might actually be correct
I never understood the thinking that you wouldn't spend big, especially this window. It seemed to me the most obvious thing in the world.
 

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I never understood the thinking that you wouldn't spend big, especially this window. It seemed to me the most obvious thing in the world.
wishful thinking. Because one set of American owners in the prem do things one way, and spend little in comparison - then Boehly and co. will do it the same. That was the general opinion i think.

Told us that all our spending ability was gone now due to Roman selling up, never be the same again in terms of star signings and trophies, slipping back off to mid table... and we ended up with an ownership group worth almost double of Roman, roughly 22bn. And quite possibly about to hit 300m in this window

Wont happen every window obviously, thats just ridiculous. But as you say, our new owners throwing money around for fun, was obvious. And I think most summers, dependant on squad needs, you'll see them happy to spend. It's almost Boehly's MO - also helps that he has a revolving credit with access to 300m
 

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American owners spending little is a myth that people like to repeat.
 

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American owners spending little is a myth that people like to repeat.
It DEFINITELY depends on the owner. We have super cheap owners that are looking to make a buck , constantly sell players and stay way Under cap, etc. They are hoping to MAKE money as owners. And no, not all of them are. Some of them approach sports ownership as a luxury endeavor, they have tons of money and they want that rush if winning titles (Golden State). Salary caps exist in some sports to keep people like Jerry Jones from spending people into submission. In Baseball, Todd Boehly DOES spend people into submission.

But they aren’t stupid with their money either. I guarantee you Boehly has consulted with people like Edwards and he looks at it as money invested per position over time. Over investing in a position like Ro an did by signing someone just to save face over Haaland (Lukaku) is bad money.

Reaching for the attacking options left on the table right now unless you get back in for better long term targets like Laeo is bad money.

If you don’t sign FDJ, then next year who is to say you aren’t bent over a barrel for Declan Rice or someone else to replace Kante to the tune of 100 mil.

Fofana himself might be over 100 mil next year.

You can SAVE money by spending now, especially if you know inflation is going to play a major factor. The money doesn’t have to all count towards this window, even if you give them a majority of cash up front.

The way you should look at it is possibly saving a combined 30 million on two long term solutions at those positions.

Heck, spend 500 million this window. If you spend it right it will not be an issue.
 

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It DEFINITELY depends on the owner. We have super cheap owners that are looking to make a buck , constantly sell players and stay way Under cap, etc. They are hoping to MAKE money as owners. And no, not all of them are. Some of them approach sports ownership as a luxury endeavor, they have tons of money and they want that rush if winning titles (Golden State). Salary caps exist in some sports to keep people like Jerry Jones from spending people into submission. In Baseball, Todd Boehly DOES spend people into submission.

But they aren’t stupid with their money either. I guarantee you Boehly has consulted with people like Edwards and he looks at it as money invested per position over time. Over investing in a position like Ro an did by signing someone just to save face over Haaland (Lukaku) is bad money.

Reaching for the attacking options left on the table right now unless you get back in for better long term targets like Laeo is bad money.

If you don’t sign FDJ, then next year who is to say you aren’t bent over a barrel for Declan Rice or someone else to replace Kante to the tune of 100 mil.

Fofana himself might be over 100 mil next year.

You can SAVE money by spending now, especially if you know inflation is going to play a major factor. The money doesn’t have to all count towards this window, even if you give them a majority of cash up front.

The way you should look at it is possibly saving a combined 30 million on two long term solutions at those positions.

Heck, spend 500 million this window. If you spend it right it will not be an issue.
American owners of Premier League teams, I thought it was a given that is what we were discussing. Both the Glazers and Kroenke spend quite a bit on their teams.
 

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American owners of Premier League teams, I thought it was a given that is what we were discussing. Both the Glazers and Kroenke spend quite a bit on their teams.
The Kroenkes for years didn't spend any of their own money. However, I've heard Josh say a few times now that they became more committed in that regard only when they took sole ownership in 2018.

I certainly think Josh especially has been more involved the past couple of years, & bar the whole Super League fiasco, ive no real complaints about how they've operated the last couple of years. However, Im not a match going fan as I live in Scotland, so they might have different views because of their experiences.
 

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We are blessed to have tuchel as our coach. The season we had with all the injuries and problems externally we finished in top 3. Had good run in all cup competitions. Roman s last season we made sure he won all as a owner of football club previously he didn't win super Cup and club World Cup.

Now new era started with team need new blood to not get stagnated. New owners determined to improve first team with trying to bring in best possible players into the club. They are working for stadium expansion.

As for tuchel he got the full backing from new owners. Lukaku and Werner shipped away and all three new signings are settling in well. Tuchel still want to bring in two more players.

We will be better than last season,much much better in my opinion. Many will change their perception about us after spurs game.:)
 

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We will be better than last season,much much better in my opinion. Many will change their perception about us after spurs game.:)
I respect the enthusiasm but I have to disagree. Everything right now is pointing towards an inconsistent season. I believe we will be in a better place next season.
 

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Todd Boehly has done more in one transfer window with Chelsea building a squad than the Glazers have done in the last 10 years.
 

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The Kroenkes for years didn't spend any of their own money. However, I've heard Josh say a few times now that they became more committed in that regard only when they took sole ownership in 2018.

I certainly think Josh especially has been more involved the past couple of years, & bar the whole Super League fiasco, ive no real complaints about how they've operated the last couple of years. However, Im not a match going fan as I live in Scotland, so they might have different views because of their experiences.
I don't quite understand the term "spend their own money". Arsenal is run as a business and is list as a publicly traded company. To spend money Arsenal either earn enough profit so that they can spend, or borrow from the market as debt. How can the owner spend his own money, and why would they? it is a business.

"Arsenal’s latest financial results showed the club to have a £201.5million debt to parent company KSE UK. The interest rate on these loans remains private, although The Athletic has been told the terms are favourable to the club. The loan is repayable on two years’ notice but as yet, no such notice has been received. Arsenal’s summer spending this year is likely to incur more debt. "
 
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Did Chelsea go from one owner with a blank cheque for transfers to another owner with blank cheque for transfers. How the f*** do you get that lucky?



If Roman had been United owner, government would have probably dissolved the club. Chelsea come the other side even better off.
 

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I don't quite understand the term "spend their own money". Arsenal is run as a business and is list as a publicly traded company. To spend money Arsenal either earn enough profit so that they can spend, or borrow from the market as debt. How can the owner spend his own money, and why would they? it is a business.

"Arsenal’s latest financial results showed the club to have a £201.5million debt to parent company KSE UK. The interest rate on these loans remains private, although The Athletic has been told the terms are favourable to the club. The loan is repayable on two years’ notice but as yet, no such notice has been received. Arsenal’s summer spending this year is likely to incur more debt. "
Im not sure how it works, you could well be right. Is that £200M debt to Kronke not directly linked to the stadium bonds he paid off though?
 

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Im not sure how it works, you could well be right. Is that £200M debt to Kronke not directly linked to the stadium bonds he paid off though?
it is the same like Abramovich to Chelsea. Arsenal borrowed money from KSE which is owned by Kroneke with a non disclosed interest rate (which my guess is very low), and also without a set date for principle payment. On the book it shows as debt for Arsenal, and arsenal needs to pay interest to service the debt.
 

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What’s up with their spending?

what will it be if they add De Jong, Aubamyang (can’t spell it) and Fofana?

Like £350m?

What’s the current PL record for one summer spend?
 

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What’s up with their spending?

what will it be if they add De Jong, Aubamyang (can’t spell it) and Fofana?

Like £350m?

What’s the current PL record for one summer spend?
Our best is 220m pounds. I think we eclipse that without hitting all the targets we are linked to currently.
 

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What’s up with their spending?

what will it be if they add De Jong, Aubamyang (can’t spell it) and Fofana?

Like £350m?

What’s the current PL record for one summer spend?
We needed to replace players and get some more quality in? Market prices are crazy, that’s not helping our expenditure but it’s all been necessary.
 

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We needed to replace players and get some more quality in? Market prices are crazy, that’s not helping our expenditure but it’s all been necessary.
Everyone needs it below Liverpool and City

I don’t understand why they’re allowed to do it.I get they’ve done well lately, but £350m odd…

United’s income won’t be much different to Chelsea even without CL football and we can’t even seem to spend £3m on a backup GK from Watford
 

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The owners are in it to make money. What the thinking is, more interesting.

We need to stay a top team to maintain our value obviously.

They've got a cash injection from various US banks.

What happens in future windows or if signings are poor and we need more? We'll see.
 

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Built up by a guy that has been driven out of the club, spending money he should never have been allowed to spend, to then have a ridiculous bespoke bidding process where only the most moral with money need apply, who can then take full advantage of the wrongs of the last 20 years.

They should have kept a low profile for a few years out of shame, yet they are about to spend the most money ever in a transfer window ever, when it really wasn't needed.
 
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Chelsea are just aresholes, built up by a guy that has been driven out of the club, spending money he should never have been allowed to spend, to then have a ridiculous bespoke bidding process where only the most moral with money need apply, who can then take full advantage of the wrongs of the last 20 years.

They should have kept a low profile for a few years out of shame, yet they are about to spend the most money ever in a transfer window ever, when it really wasn't needed.
Cool story. Thanks for sharing but perhaps it’s best kept to a therapist.
 

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Are Chelsea's financial that healthy that they can afford to spend more than even PSG and City in the last couple of years and still not fall foul of FFP?
 

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Did Chelsea go from one owner with a blank cheque for transfers to another owner with blank cheque for transfers. How the f*** do you get that lucky?


If Roman had been United owner, government would have probably dissolved the club. Chelsea come the other side even better off.
Unbelievable really! The luck these blue twats have ffs.
 
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