He was not allowed to play in the Italian League you muppet.
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Adrien Rabiot | signs 1 year deal at Juventus. See you all next year
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Let's face it Veronique my dear, your boy has nowhere else to go.
Yes I realize that now.He was not allowed to play in the Italian League you muppet.
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He was pretty average for Inter before that so the point till stands that he was hardly a good player for them, and no one apart from us and Bouremouth were interested in signing him (Spurs even rejected the chance to sign him back).
no he wasn't
I can admit I was wrong about his reasons for leaving Inter, but you still want to believe he was good at Inter?no he wasn't
8 goals and 3 assists in 60 matches, started less than 50% of his games when available and didn't come on in 20% of them. Sure, he was really good at Inter.
Blatantly untrue, PSG repeatedly tried to get him to sign an extension and eventually stuck him in the reserves for the last 6 months of his contract because he was determined to leave on a free but he was never deemed not good enough by them. So far as Juve are concerned, he may not have been a huge success there but their desire to ship him out has as much to do with their financial situation as it does his performances, he was a regular under 3 different managers in the last 3 seasons and even today it was mentioned that ideally Allegri would like to keep him but the club are trying to ditch the bloated contracts given out to free agents in the pre COVID era.
Bullshit again. Eriksen struggled to get I. Contes team initially, up until he was used a cm/dlp at which point he became a key player in that team.
A key player? More key than Lukaku, Brozovic, Martinez etc? Towards the end of their title winning season I remember he was starting to play better and more regularly, but again to say he was playing at a level where he can be deemed to be a key player for United is ludicrous.
If he's a player who we think should be a starter in central midfield, then it isn't a good signing. If he is going to be a backup to Bruno, then fine he is a decent signing but hardly a 'great' signing in any way.
But when he left PSG, would he be deemed as a huge miss for them or rather someone who didn't fulfill his potential at the club? I would say it's more the later than the former.
And at Juve you say yourself he hasn't been a huge success, so again why are we hopeful he will be at United? If he was a great player Juve would not consider his contract bloated and want to ship him off.
I havent said anything about him being a great signing. He is a decent free signing who can fill a few positions and can offer something different. I haven’t said he is a key player for united. Stop creating strawmen arguments.
you have been called out four times on lies you made up about him, and continued to persist with them. He was a key player at inter toward the end of the season where he played consistently.
fair enough you clearly didn’t know much about his time at inter. There is a time to stop.
I put my hands up somewhat to admit I was wrong about rabiot, I had believed what I read on his character and yet on looking at actual reports from reliable sources I realised most of it was bollicks
Have to agree with the other guy, he was very good at SPurs, he was average at Inter long before the horrors of the Euros.no he wasn't
Always thought he was a good player, but also thought he was over rated when lauded next to Scholes and touted as the best midfielder in the permiership a few years ago.
He did well in a short space of time at Brentford. He offers us more consistency than Fernandes who has been dreadful for a long tiime. But I think the excitement of him as a signing has as much to do with how little we have done in the market., he doesnt bring us up levels with the competition for 4th let alone trophies.
If Pereira is our only sale and our summer ends with the three signings so far and quite possibly Rabiot and another older striker........I dont see how any fan could look back to the end of last season and they would be happy with that at the end of the transfer window.
Rabiot was a decent player at PSG, not an outstanding one though and what with the baggage and average performances the alst couple of years....this deal smacks of desperation its losing Thiago and buying Fellaini all oer again, with the time we have wasted chasing DeJOng which has never really looked like happenign at any point at all.
The number of decent footballers have already moved clubs this summer, very much mainly to smaller clubs that would have improved us is huge, there have also been the likes of Caqueret and Sangare who havent had major moves made for them that have signed new contracts.
But us looking at cheap, experienced stop gaps after the first game and how bad we were.....as if it is any surprise at all is pure desperation. There are still a whole host of exciting young players at clubs though Gusto, FOfana, Gvardiol, Livaramento though injured, Thuram at Lille, Milenkovic Savic, Antony, Tonali, Diabi, Cherki, Doku, Sulemana, Tielmans, Neves, Giouri, JOnathan DAvid, Osimhen.....could go on and on and on.
Not saying they are all obtainable, or even the right options...................but really true or not and from reports certainly seem truths in some of these rumours RAbiot, Arnautovic, Morata, Guido Rodriguez.....seriously there is still a fair amount of time left int he window.....what are the scouts/manager/owners/coaches up to if this is the best they can come up with....we are in genuine danger of moving backwards from last season at this rate, new manager or not....and he will be turned on if what is rumorued to be happenign happens, as he hasnt a hope of the top four, not a chance
My initial post was a response to someone saying we made three pretty good signings, so yes I still do not think Eriksen is a pretty good signing given that we are looking for him to be a starting player for us (and there was generally a very positive reaction to his signing).
I was wrong about his defribulator issue, but I would still consider that he wasn't a player at Inter who you would want to have starting for United even towards the end spell in the 20/21 season.
It was a bit more complicated than that, he didn't like that the club didn't support him after he refused to be in the reserve for the world cup, plus he thought the club didn't show enough appreciation and asked for a salary slightly below Mbappé's... Needless to say, the club didn't accept that and the negociation stopped.
Also, him being a started in our shitty midfield doesn't say much, he did have 1 pretty good season but he was pretty much the only decent player we had at the moment outside of Verratti. Motta was already toasted at this point.
He would be a good complimentary partner for someone like de Jong, or if de Jong isn't a goer, then someone like a Nunes, Caqueret or Bennacer, but there is some concern around him staying fit.
But it's absolutely imperative we supplement the signing of Rabiot with a midfielder who has the craft and guile in a deeper role aswell the agility to resist opposition pressure. It's all about the composition of the midfield, and if we can sign Rabiot alongside one of the aforementioned names then there's something to build and work towards.
And people are quick to say Pogba was a more talented player than Rabiot, which is true if we analyse both players in possesion. But without the ball Rabiot is better and on the ball there will hopefully be someone like a de Jong, Caqueret, Bennacer or Nunes to help us progress the play more efficiently. It's about having a balanced midfield and knowing your roles and for the coaching staff to create a well oiled machine.
But it's absolutely imperative we supplement the signing of Rabiot with a midfielder who has the craft and guile in a deeper role aswell the agility to resist opposition pressure. It's all about the composition of the midfield, and if we can sign Rabiot alongside one of the aforementioned names then there's something to build and work towards.
And people are quick to say Pogba was a more talented player than Rabiot, which is true if we analyse both players in possesion. But without the ball Rabiot is better and on the ball there will hopefully be someone like a de Jong, Caqueret, Bennacer or Nunes to help us progress the play more efficiently. It's about having a balanced midfield and knowing your roles and for the coaching staff to create a well oiled machine.
From what I’m seeing he isn’t the 6. So us also being linked to SMS in conjunction to him makes no sense right? They’d both play where Mctominay does.
What if this guy is just a smoke screen to push Barcelona to pay FDJ’s deferred wages.
feck it I'm on board. Can't watch McFred again.
RabIqbal for the season.
RabIqbal for the season.
Considering the amount of smoke we are letting out no wonder the situation within the club is akin to a dumpster fire.
The problem is that he did what he did at Juventus, and it's genuinely worse than McTominay's stats.
I'm not even saying a thing about his mother doing his representation. I personally hate it as there is often toxicity when a relative represents a player (e.g. Neymar).
some people here are desperate to get rid of possibly the greats player of all time...
Having to go back 4 years to get a decent set of stats
On Sky they had an Italian expert and they didn’t know in what way Rabiot excelled. Bang average player hence why Juve have had him in the transfer list since June.
Not sure why people are so keen on comparing Mctominay and Rabiot in this thread.
Rabiot is defensively disciplined and will protect our backline a lot more.
Also I believe Rabiot will replace Fred in the starting lineup. The number of 50-50s that are lost in the middle of the park is absolutely staggering for us. Fred is so diminutive - any bouncing ball and possession is turned over. Fred alao gets bullied off the ball quite easily. And also, Fred is a defensive liability. He has 1-2 critical errors in him each game. Rabiot will help with all of that with his height and physicality and neatness in possession.
Mctominay’s place will be taken up by Eriksen.
Rabiot’s job will be to win the physical battles, win back possession, get himself about and keep the passing simple - pass to Eriksen / Bruno.
Also if we are comparing, Rabiot is a much better baller than Scott Mct. His positional awareness and defensive nous is what we need in midfield.
Rabiot is defensively disciplined and will protect our backline a lot more.
Also I believe Rabiot will replace Fred in the starting lineup. The number of 50-50s that are lost in the middle of the park is absolutely staggering for us. Fred is so diminutive - any bouncing ball and possession is turned over. Fred alao gets bullied off the ball quite easily. And also, Fred is a defensive liability. He has 1-2 critical errors in him each game. Rabiot will help with all of that with his height and physicality and neatness in possession.
Mctominay’s place will be taken up by Eriksen.
Rabiot’s job will be to win the physical battles, win back possession, get himself about and keep the passing simple - pass to Eriksen / Bruno.
Also if we are comparing, Rabiot is a much better baller than Scott Mct. His positional awareness and defensive nous is what we need in midfield.
This could be remedied if he plays where he should, which is press and win the ball higher up the field, like he did under Ralf. Playing with McTominay does no one any favors and the biggest victim is Fred.
I'd still look to see if Newcastle would be interested before his value goes permanently down the drain, once ETH figures him out and he starts being completely dropped.
By all means sign him up but we should just be aware that he is an average player. As a 6, he is limited by his range of passing and loses his man frequently. He is good in one v one and won’t lose the ball unnecessarily. He can carry the ball forward which may or may not be quality that we need from him (depending on who is his partner). Yes, he would be an improvement over either McT or Fred in the 6 position (but not sure if that is true if we wanted to play him as a 8).
By far the most underwhelming player we have been linked with this week. I'm sure he'll be the one we'll get
Mate it took fan pressure to pull out of the Arnautovic deal
Hey I'm Austrian just from that perspective alone the Arnautovic link was fun to me. Didn't want him here but at least was a tiny bit exciting to potentially see an Austrian in a United shirt.
This however... Jesus Christ. His face alone
Beautiful hair though
Most of these stats are useless since he was playing in Ligue 1 where PSG dominates and has the ball most of the time, of course he's going to have a very high number of passes.
Annoying thing about this transfer is we could have done better than Rabiot. No matter the role we want him to play, there were players available and even for just as cheap that are more suited to whatever role we want Rabiot to play in our system.
If Rabiot's coming here to play as a ball winner engine, he's not better than Caqueret or Laimer or Bissouma who were all available for cheap. If we want him to play as a creative 8, he's not as creative as Tielemans or Renato Sanches or our own Eriksen all available for cheap. If we want him to play as the connector that helps build from the back, Ruiz had the skillset to do it better. He's not a pure DM either like Sangare or Pahlinha or that Rodriguez guy.
There's no other way around it for me, getting Rabiot is either us realising we need more than De Jong after that shit show we played or it means we've missed out on De Jong and now trying to scrape whatever is left from the barrell of midfielders available
If Rabiot's coming here to play as a ball winner engine, he's not better than Caqueret or Laimer or Bissouma who were all available for cheap. If we want him to play as a creative 8, he's not as creative as Tielemans or Renato Sanches or our own Eriksen all available for cheap. If we want him to play as the connector that helps build from the back, Ruiz had the skillset to do it better. He's not a pure DM either like Sangare or Pahlinha or that Rodriguez guy.
There's no other way around it for me, getting Rabiot is either us realising we need more than De Jong after that shit show we played or it means we've missed out on De Jong and now trying to scrape whatever is left from the barrell of midfielders available
No matter which way United spin this, on the face of it, it looks like a panic buy, ETH overestimated abilities of McFred and later realized his mistake and thankfully market is open but late, so trying to get a stopgap replacement for cheap for this season and perhaps a squad player next season. Anyways I think he will be an improvement on current 2 we have there, which is needed badly, how much of an improvement only Rabiot has the ability to show it.
I think its more like that he doesnt fit to Conte's system, so he didnt do particularly well at Inter and Spurs now dont want him back. It doesnt mean he's bad since hes doing ok with the national team and Brenford.
to be fair, we're looking to dominate the ball.
they rather sue FDJ saying his contract was illegal then pay the deferred wages.
It’s the fact we know there is virtually no chance of de jong, most likely we get rabiot and tielemans, can’t say I’m excited. Reminds me of schneiderlin and schweinsteiger, maybe worse because bastion was once a top class player
Exactly this. Just screams of a panic buy, added on the top of the fact that this is a horrible deal for a player Juventus want out and has 1 yr left on his contract.
There were so so many options for our midfield this summer, and we went for Rabiot for 20M and another AM on a free?
We had two main issues in the midfield. Someone to screen the defence, and someone to link play and get the ball to the attackers. We have solved neither problems. Just abysmal from Murtough and co.
He joined a club in Juventus that was just as dominant in their own league. And like the above poster stated, we're also looking to dominate the ball, and the stats shared would make more sense for a head coach who looks to implement vertical positional play.
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I see you're still in the denial phase
As long as he doesn’t bring his off court drama with him, he’ll be an excellent option as long as he benches Scott.
And all Juventus midfielders see their stats plummet, in particular last season, it's fine to ignore his PSG's stats due to context but in that case the same emphasis on context should be used for his Juventus stats. The previous season he attempted 57 passes which is close to Locatelli's 60 passes this season, Locatelli was attempting 87 passes for Sassuolo in 20/21.
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