Ffs. It’s the players who shouldn’t be playing for this club and eth given free reign to rip this team to pieces and rebuild. Ddg, fred, mag, mct, rash etc need to leave the club before we can improve - as well as the owners
Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24
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Is he another fraud?
Not his fault.
While I agree with you there is also gonna be internal politics. You get impression his employers weren’t very happy with Ralph calling out their failures. I dunno, when you stat a new job do you do stuff to piss off your boss?
Simeone would fail here.
Do you see this squad being able to play like Simeone needs?
Just like ten Hag, he'd need a squad overhaul. And, just like ten Hag, he wouldn't get it.
He has been dropped into no man's land by an inept run club and a team that haven't got a scoobys.
I see a lot of journos or fan pages telling ETH to walk away. No doubt he hasn’t been helped by the board but at the same time we’ve only played Blackpool and Brentford. Do we need FDJ to beat them?
He chose to bring in Martinez over Pau Torres and played him today over Varane. There has to be some level of responsibility on him for that.
It’s way too early to make any decisions and ETH must be backed and given time. I just don’t buy that he should be completely blameless in todays shambles.
He chose to bring in Martinez over Pau Torres and played him today over Varane. There has to be some level of responsibility on him for that.
It’s way too early to make any decisions and ETH must be backed and given time. I just don’t buy that he should be completely blameless in todays shambles.
You are better than Dalot. The older gentlemen on here are all better than Dalot. He's absolute piss.
The squad is the problem but he's played a part in how it has been shaped going into the season.
It was more just a hypothetical to ponder whether the club would back him in that manner - we all know Mourinho was infamously overruled on his want to remove players like Pogba and Martial at one point.
Although saying that, if ten Hag wants to retain players like Rashford and De Gea as key members of his side, he’s kind of asking for failure.
He knew the physicality of the PL but signs a midget defender and wants De Jong who isn’t the strongest when it comes to power. What are they doing in training?
That super high line for a starter. You don't play a super high line with two slow CB. Then trying to play out from the back with DDG. Even my dog knows his distribution is shit. Then play a short CB in the fecking PL. Probably the first time someone did so in the PL ever.
And tbh do anyone here has an idea what was our offensive plan?
Just shows how uninformed you are. Thanks atleast the board has some level of common sense.
He needs to realise that the Premier league is the best in the world. And coach and demand at that level. Any player that does not/cannot play to your style, just bench.
Certainly got his work cut out for him
He doesn't need 100 games in the league to realize that playing with no defensive midfielders in front of a 2 slow defenders, one of them is a midget, in an away game in PL is a fecking suicide.
If he doesn't have a defensive midfielder he should have played with at least 3 defenders and throw in Varane in the mix to offer some more protection. Yet, he left the defense with zero cover with such awful tactical setup.
What, it's as if he thinks he's still managing in Netherlands. Huge disrespect to the opponent and the league.
I'm ready for mistakes but I'm not ready for awful tactics.
That's true. I'm probably speaking with a lot of pain. Think it was reported widely that c suite wasn't happy with Rangnick's openness.
Definitely need to channel it towards the owners
Starting a midfield of eriksen, bruno and fred when you have a front 3 that is terrible at pressing is so tactically naive I can only laugh. He is not only going to fail here, he is going to set us back another 2 years.
All these excuses. No one is asking for miracles , but you would think he would be able to stabilize the team.
I don't think that it was a right decision to keep Maguire as a captain personally. There aren't any good alternatives in the squad but even the likes of Cristiano & Bruno are way better options.
But ten Hag hasn't been given all the tools required for a quick and effective — neither in terms of new signings nor in terms of selling the deadwood (which is most of the squad, really). For now he has to somehow get the best out of perpetual underperformers and that includes playing some players that ideally shouldn't start for United. Why does Maguire start? Because Lindelöf, Bailly & Jones are even less reliable & Varane had fitness issues. Why does Rashford start? Because the only other option is to bench him for an 18-years old. Should he have benched Maguire for Varane, play Iqbal & Garnacho? I would've certainly preferred if he did. But I'm not going to slack the manager for giving a chance to players at the very beginning of his tenure.
And who said he needs 100 games ? Again , I have no idea what you are trying to prove here.
3 of the goals were mistakes. How exactly is that his so called awful tactics ?
Ralf?! He barely got the mandate to pick his own starting 11, so it’s going to be funny seeing them trying to pin this on him
Hate to say it but someone like Conte wouldn't have been rumbled like this
100%
I think he expected the likes of Rashford, Bruno, Maguire etc would be like driving a Rolls Royce compared to what he's used to. A slight bit of arrogance also to think he can get that running like nobody else has managed. Instead he needed an open and honest conversion with Rangnick about the issues, seemingly the only man that could recognise it.
I already explained his awful tactical setup in the post. I'm not in the mood to repeat what I just said.
The clubs fecked. End of.
Shite group of players he was left with.
He should of taken up that job offer in Germany instead better equipped to work with.
Shite group of players he was left with.
He should of taken up that job offer in Germany instead better equipped to work with.
Brentford players ran 13km more than Utd players. That's the manager's fault is it? These players are lazy cnuts. It doesn't matter what manager we get in, nothing will change.
He is a nerd… as such, if really smart, he is going to resign this evening and let the club hierarchy hang out to dry.
Turns out they already started this morning:Ralf?! He barely got the mandate to pick his own starting 11, so it’s going to be funny seeing them trying to pin this on him
Mate we are playing Brighton and Brentford. Not top teams. He should have got rid of rashford, shaw,maguire, fred mctom, every one of those players is clearly not good enough. But also we played two at best decent teams are you telling me we can't do more than we did against them? That's on the coach.
Many of us knew it. If there was a slight chance if turning this team around it needed an extremely firm hand. Instead ETH is trying to be everybody's best mate. Which I get if you're not aware of the nature and character of this squad, but he should have been.
Conte would be in prison by now, for strangling Murtough and Arnold
Our baldd fraud is actually a fraud, 2 matches --> 2 suicidal lineups, what a shame. Had so much hope from him.
He should be winning against Brighton and Brentford with the players he has, cant have excuses for lack of signings etc.
But what has been worse has been the tactics, in both matches we have been very easy to play against and ourselves have had no penetration or attacking threat, simply passing it between the GK and defence. We have had single digit Shots on target even when we've been a few goals down in the first half of both games.
Seems he is out of ideas to respond to going goals down. It does not look good.
But what has been worse has been the tactics, in both matches we have been very easy to play against and ourselves have had no penetration or attacking threat, simply passing it between the GK and defence. We have had single digit Shots on target even when we've been a few goals down in the first half of both games.
Seems he is out of ideas to respond to going goals down. It does not look good.
I dont know what your dog knows so let's keep him out of the discussion. Distribution was only one of the reasons for the goal. How exactly would you define other mistakes? Lack of concentration? Lack of shot stopping skill ?
Well yeah, because the way we set up meant the only running we were ever going to do was back to our own goal when we give the ball away
To be honest I, for one, think ETH needs to be given time. However, as fans we must be willing to call things out even it that means criticising the manager when he deserves it. I have no idea what targets have been set for ETH this season., but at the end of the season his performance should be assessed in light of them. It is fairly clear that Ten Hag has taken on a challenge far bigger than even he imagined. If he is up to challenge it is going to take a while, there is no doubt about that. But he needs to be given the time.
So far, I'm bring proven right unfortunately
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