AdNani
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I think if we get him and another midfielder we'll finish top 4. He's that fecking good.
Watch our CB's look 20x better.
Watch our CB's look 20x better.
Anyone can flop. But some signings carry more risk than others, both in terms of how likely they are to flop and how much damage will be done if they do.We've never signed anyone who was legitimately the best in the world in there position, never.
Of course there's a chance he could flop. but there's a chance anyone could flop.
So we just waited until the end of the window before we sold players? Are you serious?Let’s see: Bissaka 15, Garner 15, McTominay 20, Bailly 10 - here comes 60m of possible income, so 100m net is 160m gross. And there are also such players as Tuanzebe or youngster loans who can yield 1-2m each as well.
It's the caf. 30-year-olds are past it, and the facts must be ignored for a good moan.We'd be stupid to sell Casemiro during a year in which the World Cup will add pressure on our playing squad. I feel Camavinga (19) would be wasted at DM and he could be a lovely mobile B2B midfielder, similar to Valverde who exploded at the age of 20-21. You can have Casemiro in the 2024/25 season.
Also - I hate how people have increased his age over the last 5-6 pages. He is 30 .. not 31, 32 or too old.
This summer has been a complete failure I think everyone will agree to that, it’s too late now for a quick fix do we’re in panic mode. Paying Casemiro 400k a week over 5 years is not the right thing going forward I know that 100%.To what end? They’re Real Madrid: kings of Europe doing things from the greatest position of strength in the sport right now; what bearing does that have on us, almost ten years down a hole?
We can’t move or think like they do, and we have 2 weeks to prevent this season being an absolute disaster, so what do you suggest we do?
There’s actual Madrid fans in here saying they don’t want to lose him and he’s brilliant. And to stop going on about his age. He’s the best DM in the world yet people still want to moan and scrutinise a media report of his wages and contract (which isn’t even confirmed!)But….just like Varane last summer what if he doesn’t? He will be almost 36 years old at the end of this deal walking away with a reported 400k a week that’s awful management yet again.
Why in the world should we have to double someone’s wages? he’s got no interest in United.
At what point does the same shit in every single thread become valuable?Well, that's the thing, it is not really a discussion if everyone is saying the same thing is it?
The moaning adds valuable contrast.
AgreedI would at least like to hear them give some kind of logical counters that take into account we’re backs to the wall and need solutions, pronto. Just makes no sense to act like we’ve all the time in the world to make the best of this window that we can.
Puke----------------------Casemiro----------------------
-----McTominay-------------Fred-----------------
Selling shares just to buy him1.5m a week, 15 year contract for a 45 year old. feck this club.
He literally isn't old and over the hill thoughDont want him. Old, overpaid, over the hill. Obviously a big upgrade on our present midfield, but 2 years in a losing team and he'll be done. Stinks of Matic to me really.
I'm still stupidly hopeful on a Milenkovic-Savic AND Frenkie de Jong deal...fool that I am.
Fabian Ruiz, Parades, Sangare, N’didi, Tielemans etcLike who ? Who can come in and start doing the job almost immediately? I get the 5 year concern but if he can give us solid 3 years, that should be more than enough to justify the fee.
How long are we seriously going to get out of a midfielder turning 31 this season? 2 decent years? 3 at a push?There’s actual Madrid fans in here saying they don’t want to lose him and he’s brilliant. And to stop going on about his age. He’s the best DM in the world yet people still want to moan and scrutinise a media report of his wages and contract (which isn’t even confirmed!)
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At what point does the same shit in every single thread become valuable?
Agreed
Is that what you said when Chelsea signed 30 year old Makalele?How long are we seriously going to get out of a midfielder turning 31 this season? 2 decent years? 3 at a push?
Add to that he’s only joining for the money, who in the hell is leaving Madrid for us. He then he has to adapt to a different league and culture. I’m not having it, this has disaster written all over it.
Casemiro is not coming into a well defined system or team though. Even if he comes we still don't know what the best 11 is.It's the caf. 30-year-olds are past it, and the facts must be ignored for a good moan.
That is up to every individual who reads the thread to decide.At what point does the same shit in every single thread become valuable?
You’re just making things up and giving opinion as fact at this point.How long are we seriously going to get out of a midfielder turning 31 this season? 2 decent years? 3 at a push?
Add to that he’s only joining for the money, who in the hell is leaving Madrid for us. He then he has to adapt to a different league and culture. I’m not having it, this has disaster written all over it.
You’re example is a player they signed over 20 years ago? let’s not act like that’s the norm.Is that what you said when Chelsea signed 30 year old Makalele?
No.Is he injury prone?
Same difference.You’re example is a player they signed over 20 years ago? let’s not act like that’s the norm.
Im making nothing up. The one thing that’s clear is the 5 year deal on a reported 360-400k a week. He will be almost 36 at the end of the deal.You’re just making things up and giving opinion as fact at this point.
Chelsea had a better foundation to work from than we do, plus they went mad in the transfer window when Ambro came onboard signing some super talented players to give Mak the platform to perform. We've go McFred and not alot else.Is that what you said when Chelsea signed 30 year old Makalele?
I haven't seen this line anywhere in JFD's article (both the Spanish and English ones). This is misleading and possibly fake news.Tweet
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Madrid tier 1's are all fanning the flames instead of extinguishing them
Does Casemiro want to leave and does Real Madrid want to sell? That's where the debate arises.
Not at allIs he injury prone?
‘reported’ you know nothing yet and just want to believe the worst in everything about the clubIm making nothing up. The one thing that’s clear is the 5 year deal on a reported 360-400k a week. He will be almost 36 at the end of the deal.
End it there that’s fecking madness. And you wonder why we’re in a mess.
I don't understand. So by your logic, we shouldn't sign a good DM because we have McFred?Chelsea had a better foundation to work from than we do, plus they went mad in the transfer window when Ambro came onboard signing some super talented players to give Mak the platform to perform. We've go McFred and not alot else.
The length of the contract is [too] long, but the premium for him (or anyone of that calibre) coming here in our predicament is par for the course. This is fairly argued the best DM on the planet - I don’t know which position on the pitch you can get the best in the world to come here and not expect to pay out of the arse for it (actually, another player who is the best in the world is not likely to come here). That’s the consequence of being what we are.This summer has been a complete failure I think everyone will agree to that, it’s too late now for a quick fix do we’re in panic mode. Paying Casemiro 400k a week over 5 years is not the right thing going forward I know that 100%.
Id try and buy a Tielemans or somebody to keep us going until January and in these next few months on sounding out a second midfielder to sign either then or for next summer.
Alright well this whole thread is based on speculation it’s the only thing we can discuss‘reported’ you know nothing yet and just want to believe the worst in everything about the club
Yeah no. We signed Di Maria when he was one of the best in the world in his position.We've never signed anyone who was legitimately the best in the world in there position, never.
Of course there's a chance he could flop. but there's a chance anyone could flop.
I'm saying they brought players of similar quality to Mak and gave him the platform to perform his role.I don't understand. So by your logic, we shouldn't sign a good DM because we have McFred?
The way we’ve been playing, if we get 2 good seasons out of him and I’ll be happy.Dont want him. Old, overpaid, over the hill. Obviously a big upgrade on our present midfield, but 2 years in a losing team and he'll be done. Stinks of Matic to me really.
I'm still stupidly hopeful on a Milenkovic-Savic AND Frenkie de Jong deal...fool that I am.
I like the player and I’m not even bothered about the huge wage…it’s the 5 years that have me concerned. We’d do well to get 3 solid years that will take him to almost 34 we don’t need a 36 year old on 400k a week is my concern.The length of the contract is [too] long, but the premium for him (or anyone of that calibre) coming here in our predicament is par for the course. This is fairly argued the best DM on the planet - I don’t know which position on the pitch you can get the best in the world to come here and not expect to pay out of the arse for it (actually, another player who is the best in the world is not likely to come here). That’s the consequence of being what we are.
Tielemans isn’t a DM, we’re extremely leaky through midfield - do you think he is a better solution to that than a player who unlocks so many others around him? You’d expect a giant jump in performance from our CB’s and our midfield with Casemiro anchoring it. In isolation, you don’t think this is a needs must kind of signing (should it go ahead)?