It is ridiculous. We would not even need a winger if we had not panicked and sold Dan James last year because Ronaldo was afraid of being overshadowed by a bigger talent.
Antony | Here we go! €100mill, contract until June 2027, option 'til 2028.
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Ajax are a selling club, but they are not obliged to accept offers for payers they don't want to sell. No club is. Bizarre thread.
Antony should pull the slave card already. It's about time.
Last season:
Asensio: 10 goals in 31 games
Antony: 8 goals, 4 assists in 23 games in a much much weaker league
Is there such a huge gap in performance that merits a 100m bid for Antony vs 40m for Asensio?
Wouldn't it be financially prudent to get Asensio this season and Antony the next (increase squad depth next season)?
Well it kind of depends what the lad was promised. If they said two years but the contract is for five years so that we can sell you after two years, at a fair price, and make a big profit and he signed on that basis, that puts a different spin on the situation.
We’re not likely to hear Ajax’s honest side of that because it suits them to say he’s contracted for 5 years and that’s that. It will damage their reputation, in my opinion.
Jaffa cakes are nice to be fair.
Waiting a couple of weeks for an extra few million is totally worth it for Leicester and Ajax. Leicester knew Chelsea would come back with a higher bid and Ajax know Man United will do the same.
With you on this. And Antony approaching this as a two year project while signing a five year contract doesn't mean Ajax went back on their word or broke a promise
It guarantees employment for a fixed period. It also makes zero sense to sell too many players in one window.
All three of our wingers are right-footed. It would be nice to have a left-footed attacker. Allows us to use Rashford or Sancho on the left. Antony or Sancho on the right.
You can say that about Martinez, yet while we may have overpaid the optics just look like a club who wanted a player and went out to get him. We've had an interest in Antony but haven't showed we are really serious until now.
Ajax will want to squeeze as much money out of us but by us coming so late with no replacement lined up it only points to them being even more stubborn given they know how desperate we are.
Do you really think we have approached this transfer well? To me it looks like we baulked at the price earlier in the transfer window, had a horrible start to the season and have come back with more intent than ever.
Fans seem as desperate as the club right now. The reality is this transfer looks ominous for us right now. I am very doubtful it goes through.
Man, you're not understanding the simple fact that they lied to BOTH Antony and US as a club. If they had no intention to sell, then they should have went out and said it. That's the problem. And it is a real scummy behavior on their part. If you're unable to see that, then I don't know what to tell you. We've wasted months on a player that apparently was never for sale. Real professional right there from Ajax.
Asensio would be a Telles-like signing. Deadwood within months, loaned out in a couple of seasons because nobody will be willing to pay his wages. Doubt he's a target anyways
Come across quite poorly for the club if as a development club, they had a player ask to leave since February and get record offers and still get rejected. That's how players stop picking you, as you are then being difficult to work with for these players who want to use them as a stepping stone.
Because they wouldn't be 3 weeks into a season and they'd have months and months to replace him, rather than a few days.
No one truly believes that we offered over 90m Euros on day 1 of the transfer window then he'd still be an Ajax player. We were slow and ponderous yet again.
It amazes me after 10 years of this incompetence people are still desperate to defend the club.
They should. Its not to Ajax's benefit to have them but any player who joins on the understanding its for a set time period should require a clause with Ajax
It’s taken on a life of its own.Players don't sign a 5 year deal and expect to be there for 5 years. That's just not how football works.
5 years is to help retain the value of a player, that's it. It helps them get a 90 euro offer, instead of 50 if he had 1/2 years left.
Ajax know how the game works, and clearly Antony and his advisers are under the impression that when a big club comes (especially PL) he should be allowed to leave for a fair price.
What we've offered is fair, but Ajax are now being stubborn because their ego's been damaged.
Fantastic argument. If people were saying Ajax legally had to sell. Which not a single person is saying.
The 5 year contract is protection for Ajax also. There’s no way they would have agreed to a two year contract because they know they’d get nothing at the end of the agreed term when the player walks out on a free transfer. The contract term is both protection for the club and the player.
If they’ve made a verbal commitment to Antony since February that they would allow him to move this window and they’ve received multiple reasonable bids that have matched (or in this case clearly exceeded) his market value, then its Ajax that comes out looking worse.
I don't even follow football anywhere near as much as most do on here but off the top of my head: Rooney, Ronaldo, Modric, Kane, Mbappe,Zaha, Suarez, Gerrard, Vieira, Van der Vaart, Alves, Ribery, Tevez?
I'm sure there are infinite more examples.
Some of you (same with football fans / transfer muppets worldwide in fairness) are being incredibly entitled.
You might be taking it too personally. Its quite literally just business.
Ajax has handled this poorly. They are in a bit of a rebuild given the talent that has gone out that door. Antony has played so well for them and dealt in good faith, and now that the new manager has shown enough concern they seem to realize they're in trouble and think Antony makes the difference. Not so sure he will keep them from having a down season. That plus the player wanting out so badly, I have to say I'd let him go and take that big chunk of money for the rebuild.
They could stock half the team with that money if they go get good players on the rise who fit what they want to do. It's almost like this is personal now.
They could stock half the team with that money if they go get good players on the rise who fit what they want to do. It's almost like this is personal now.
nah. We’re stupid.
We give them £50mil for Martinez, meaning they don’t need to make further player sales.
The way Ajax do business, £50mil covers their transfer activity for years.
Then we come back with a week to go and want their best player.
Anthony has been a target since ETH came in.
We should have taken both for £100m at the start of the window. I’m sure we could have got the deal done and it would have given Ajax time to backfill.
instead we come in and look desperate
Exactly.
They won't get this sort of money again if they don't accept. Feck em.
Yeah, that's not how it works.
Antony does have the right to demand the transfer and Ajax has the right to refuse it. I mean no offense but you don't really seem to understand how transfers and contracts work in football mate.
I honestly doubt that. My impression is that Murtough and them are on that 'classy' schtick most Caftards are on, and are 'above' the Real Madrid and Barcelona dark arts of the transfer market.
Blaming Ajax is silly. Our ire should be directed at our useless DoF and CEO. How come it's our club at the centre of these sagas so often? Boring.
very entitled. If you planned to be there 2 years why sign a 5-year contract? Did Harry Kane get his move? nope and just got on with it. United fans hella entitled right now. Antony can make all the claims he wants but these are just his claims. He is just a mere employee
None of these are comparable. He is a sports employee paid MILLIONS to do the job he loves so does the clubs needs not also matter? how much time do they even have to find a replacement? He has only fulfilled 2 of a 5 year contract. It is insane to assume he has the right to just up and leave because United fans want him. He does not make decisions for Ajax as they are bigger than him
There's also a difference between saying Ajax are stupid to reject that amount of money and saying they acted shady, scummy or broke promises. The first thing is a clear yes for me, but there's nothing shady about insisting on your right to being stupid
So he’s been asking to leave for six months and Ajax have refused to sell despite these offers? They’ve somewhat overplayed their hand.
Because we get treated differently. They sold Haller to Dortmund for 30m and waved him off nicely.
If we came in for him you know it would be 70m and a constant battle. They see us as a goldmine that they can rinse for every penny.
Adnan won't like that. Murtough hired data analysts, sports scientists and elite tea lady executives with a speciality in tea making.
Yep.
How would you feel if he was shit and Ajax stopped paying him after two years? I'd be livid and so would the FDJ advocates on these boards.
A contract is a contract.
I’m not sure how we approached it. If we are told by the player that there’s an agreement in place for a move then why wouldn’t we believe him? We did come in with a big bid about three weeks ago when we met Ajax’s absurd price, they set another one which we met and it looks as if we are about to bid higher again. It’s hard to blame Utd when we met their price with a month left of the window, us sitting here with a week left is on Ajax who keeps turning down fees that they demanded. I feel bad for Ajax but one of the reason they’ve lost so many players is they fecked up two of their brightest prospects by keeping them with one year left and knowing they’d go on a free this summer. Just because they mishandled that doesn’t mean other players who apparently had agreements in place have to pause their careers. B all accounts they knew Antony wanted to leave, desperate even since February. To play that off like oh this caught us by surprise with a week left is absurd.
We have a bunch of incompetent fecks running our transfer business. Utter imbeciles - we could have had Antony integrated into our pre season and then following on from that our team, weeks ago for the fraction of the fee but village idiot Murtough has dicked around doing literally nothing and now this happens.
Murtough needs to take a long walk off a short cliff (hopefully the Grand Canyon)
Murtough needs to take a long walk off a short cliff (hopefully the Grand Canyon)
Never seen Ajax act like this before
Meh, it's disappointing from our perspective, but fair play to Ajax for not bending over to player demands. If they've thought this through and are fine with walking away from such fee then fair enough.
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