Antony | Here we go! €100mill, contract until June 2027, option 'til 2028.

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Enigma_87

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Draxler, Juanmi, Kvaratskhelia, Szoboslai. There are lot more. Players that would be easier to get, not cost to much and would give us good attacking alternatives. I really don't like these mega money buys who usually let us down in big way.

As I said, I hope Antony is worth that money. But I'm not jumping from my chair yet.
Kvaratskhelia just moved clubs and is currently at Napoli.

Szoboslai moved two years ago for 20m EUR and has done pretty well last year, I doubt RB would agree to anything below 50-60m EUR in this market. That is if he's even available.

Draxler, Juanmi? Is this 2019 again?
 

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I did raise this earlier. The realistic right wing options are Olise, Ziyech, Neto, Asensio, Berardi etc.

Olise is the only one I would be keen but will cost 60m + . Not much of a difference ! Left footed right wingers are not in the market .
Can't really see any in the list that's worth a punt.

ETH knows Antony and Antony knows the system too.
 

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Dzeko hit 4 fewer goals just in one year at Rome compared to Salah's whole stint in Italy (3 years). Shaarawy was also hitting numbers close to what Salah did during the same time at Roma.

Kagawa had generally the same numbers as KdB before either of them moved to PL.

Stats don't tell the whole story and if Salah went to United instead of Pool at the time his career would've taken into a different direction.
Never argued otherwise, only the comparison being made by the poster I replied to.
 

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Fantastic signing. Dont care about the fee - its not my money. Basic business - you are bidding for someones intangible asset which they arent looking to sell. You are going to end up shelling out.

first window, was looking bleak but we now have a world class holding midfielder, back 4 looking settled but maybe a new right back in time, eriksen and bruno great 10’s, two excellent wide forwards and options at striker but again will need one in time. We might start to look like a team now
 

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Have never seen anything to warrant €100M but he's an exciting player and knows the manager. Hope he gets judged outside of the price of tag but smashes it anyway
 

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Wow. I mean he’s an exciting player but we’ve been absolutely rinsed here. Can’t help but think we should have gotten somebody cheaper and then still had money to reinforce other areas of the squad. Hope Ten Hag’s faith in him is warranted.
 

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There was next to no negotiating to be done. Ajax held firm on their price and we either had to pay up or walk away
Yep and right now knowing as they’ll likely know the FDJ facts I’m guessing the fan backlash would be worse if we bring neither in at this stage. It’s like moaning my neighbour spent too much on his car which he then gave me for my enjoyment…
 

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Worrying about prices seems weird these days. The money in football is mental, we can't control it and it's not our money.

We are signing a really exciting young player. I don't get why people don't just enjoy it.
This 100%.

What we must have in mind is, that if we wanted to buy guarenteed world class as the likes of Mbappe it would probably cost us north of 200m euro.

We are getting a young brazilian international with every bit of the required technical ability to tear up defencesin ant leagues. Even a left footed player, who is playing on the right wing.
Those factors alone should keep his market value up for some time no matter how he does for us.

In addition, we happen to have a manager with great insight in terms of his mentality and personality. Ten Hag has talked and talked about work ethics and the importance of hard work ever since preseason. He wouldn’t vouch for Antony if he had any concerns about that. That’s another risk less to wory too much about.

Given the mentioned factors I think it’s worth the risk. Certainly in light of the few players we have to choose from in our attack.
 

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Such an exciting signing. Still very young but extremely talented, liked by the manager, and doesn’t look like he’ll shy away from the huge pressure at United. Wants to be here and I don’t think the price tag will weigh on his shoulders, if anything he seems the kind of player who would thrive under the spotlight.

Welcome to Manchester, Antony.
 

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Finally got our man! Definitely needed more firepower upfront. If he has good decision making then he’ll be a huge asset to us as we need players who know when to shoot and when to pass.
 

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Never argued otherwise, only the comparison being made by the poster I replied to.
TBF, Antony is different type of player compared to all those random names in the thread.

Robben comparison is very apt, not only due to his time at Eredivisie but also playing style and output, which was not spectacular either, yet he turned out to be a world class footballer, despite his injuries.

Naturally the fee is off the mark, but in terms of what the poster you replied to, I don't think there is ever a 100m dead cert success stories. I mean - Coutinho, Dembele and many more.
 

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Really hope he's smashes those Arsenal cnuts at the weekend and silences them. Too much hype around them already without really facing any big team yet.
 

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Nearly every post is banging on about the price paid, it's extremely boring now, how many people need to keep repeating the same thing?

Can't people just be excited that we have signed an exciting player in a position needed? Maybe judge whether the club have overpaid or not after he has actual played 2 seasons for the club, that way it is warranted to judge the price tag based on how he performs.
 

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I feel bad for people who judge players only by stats and use it as a stick to beat them with. Yes Antony stats are not all that, yes he is playing in Dutch league but if you can’t see past that and actually look at his ability and potential regardless of the league he plays in then that’s a terrible base to form an argument from you to begin with. Of course, no one can convince you or win against that.

He’s just turned 22 this February. He’s got fantastic touch and control. He is great technically. He can cross, shoot and can pick a pass. He’s quick, has flair in his boots and possesses brilliant dribbling ability. Combine all these qualities with him being a hard worker , a grafter, tenacious and having the right focus on his football.

Now, all these attributes would put him in a good stead in any league whether it’s Eredivisie or the Premier league not to mention that he is nowhere being a finished article at all and quickly developing his game. Just remember, he arrived in Europe only 2 years ago and how quickly he is progressing. It should be enough to convince some of you what kind of player we are signing here. I’m dead sure that the guy is going to be huge hit. I’m also sure his numbers in terms of productivity would increase too.
 

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Depends on visa wait, remember Isak's didn't come in time for Wolves game today
Didn’t isak only sign on Friday though? If Antony gets his medical done tomorrow then there’s a big chance it could be here for Thursday right?
 

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I think the fee was always going to be high given the sell-on clause for Sao Paolo.
 

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Such an exciting signing. Still very young but extremely talented, liked by the manager, and doesn’t look like he’ll shy away from the huge pressure at United. Wants to be here and I don’t think the price tag will weigh on his shoulders, if anything he seems the kind of player who would thrive under the spotlight.

Welcome to Manchester, Antony.
4 of our 5 signings have played in Holland. If EtH found out that James Garner had once gone for a piss up bank holiday in Amsterdam he'd start him ahead of Casemiro. Joking aside, for the sake of our transfer budget we could have really done with EtH liking the look of players without directly knowing them.
 

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Not sure people understand issue when it comes to spending mental money on transfer/wages, for me its not about money, its about its effect on future dealings either impact overall or as an example for others to use it in the future. Same goes for wages, in both cases, those dont exist in some bubble, our bloated wage bill thats being drained by leechers dictates wages of new comming players etc.
 

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It’s the current market unfortunately
Two Brazil International wingers (Richarlison and Raphinha) moved for significantly less money in this window than we've just thrown at Antony and both of them are considerably more proven than he is. The current market is expensive if your idea of the current market is limited to one club in Amsterdam that is already cash rich.
 

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C'mon guys, I know the fee is high and all, but who here as a fan really cares? I watch United to be entertained, and this guy looks like he can get Old Trafford on it's feet every time he gets the ball? Isn't that why we watch?

Ten Hag clearly thinks this guy has crazy potential, and from what I've seen of him he looks ridiculously talented. We may be breaking the bank, but I can't think of another more exciting right-sided attacker in Europe. I'm buzzing now for the game Thursday to see if he's involved. That's what it's all about right?
 

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Honestly, anyone talking about the fee really needs to stop talking.
Have you seen the market at the moment? Particularly for an attacker.

We also need proven quality in that position, which at a minimum Antony provides. It's the reason why City got Grealish for 100m, the reason why Liverpool went all out to get Nunez, its the reason for Atletico spending that amount on Joao Felix. We can't be shy about playing in the market like we have been over the last 10 years, hoping youngsters will fill in squad gaps. Buying Pogba, but not wanting to spend much elsewhere/looking for a deal. The reason City and Liverpool have been as good as they have been has been . We can't afford to take risks like that anymore trying to get bargains.

Blind, Herrera, Rojo, Darmian, Lindelof, Bailly, Fred, Smalling, Jones, Amad, Chicarito, VDB and Martial.
Add academy youngsters: Mctominay, Lingard, Greenwood, Januzaj, Cleverley, Welbeck, Williams and Evans.

These are players that we bought who were slightly obscure or came directly from our academy so provided limited cost. Most of them had never proven themselves prior to coming into our team, had never represented their national team and hardly anyone knew about them prior to them being linked with us.

The recognized players we signed were:
Ibrahimovic, Mhikitaryan, Alexis Sanchez, Di Maria, Pogba, Lukaku, Bruno, Sancho, Mata, Fellaini, Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger, Memphis, Ronaldo, Varane, Kagawa, Falcao, Cavani, Matic and Van Persie.

The recognized players were clearly better in their performances for us. We paid the price to get them and for the most part, these have been the players that have been our best performers since 2010.
The recognized players who did not provide positive contributions were clearly past it even before they were signed. Alexis, Schweinsteiger and Falcao were clearly not at an elite level when we bought them. Matic and Cavani faded a season after we had gotten them. For the most part though, with our recruitment, it has been better to get a known player than an obscure one. It has also been safer to get younger ones than older ones despite the additional cost of signing a player entering or already in their prime.

City have been the dominant team in the league. To become that in the same period, they signed Silva, Toure, Aguero, De Bruyne, Bernardo Silva, Sterling, Mahrez, Cancelo, Walker, Ruben Dias, Gundogan, Sane and Grealish. They bought Mangala, Fernando, Stones, Mendy, Nasri and Adebayor...who didn't work, but for the most part, even those players listed could be considered good contributors. In that time, the young players integrated into their squad have been Gabriel Jesus, Zinchenko and Foden. All of whom needed to prove that they were good enough contributors to get anywhere near their first team. Madrid and Bayern have also taken a similar route over the years. Sign guarantees. Kroos, Modric, Ramos, Marcelo, Bale, Benzema, Ronaldo and Isco were all bought for their reputations. Neuer, Lucas Hernandes, Goretzka, Sane, Coman and Lewandowski were bought for their reputations as well.

The point is, in order to win and have a good squad, for the most part you need to spend money. Very rarely do you find those transfer gems, and its even rarer to get one in your academy.
 
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A good comparison is Robben at Chelsea. Similar age, position and output.
I haven't seen much of Antony but I have seen Raphinha and think he's a good player but not a great player and he seems to be ahead of Antony in the Brazil pecking order. Arjen Robben (particularly the Chelsea version) would be the best player in this Brazil team, including Neymar- he certainly wouldn't be competing for his spot in the starting lineup with anyone.
 
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