sillwuka
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Forest is his level, he should stay there.
I don’t see a problem either.So just to be clear, you honestly don't see the difference between people on a message board saying things and a player talking shite about the club that pays his wages? If that's the case, it's clear that there's no hope of having a reasonable discussion here as you clearly can't be objective.
Two thirds of the Henderson games used in that comparison isn’t even games he played for Man Utd.
If he wants to play football, fine, take the loan but don't start smack talking the side that's still (over)paying you. Thats unprofessional. Honestly amazes me that this is even a question.I don’t see a problem either.
Fans are crying every second for Rashford’s apparent loss of “love of football” - when a goalkeeper wants to play football and not just earn money on the bench at United then that’s showing well “love of football”.
Were not paying him, Forest are.If he wants to play football, fine, take the loan but don't start smack talking the side that's still (over)paying you. Thats unprofessional. Honestly amazes me that this is even a question.
The contract he has is with us. Fair enough they're covering his wages but he's a united employee. Its baffling that people think what he said was acceptable.Were not paying him, Forest are.
What was it he said that is so unacceptable?The contract he has is with us. Fair enough they're covering his wages but he's a united employee. Its baffling that people think what he said was acceptable.
Isn't this all according to him? For someone with such self assurance, he should have the mental fortitude to accept when someone takes his place because he's outperformed. Nobody is guaranteed a spot and his outburst made him look petty and childish. Calling your employers' behavior 'criminal' is totally unacceptable (unless it actually is).What was it he said that is so unacceptable?
The club treated him very poorly, broke promises, he wanted first team football turned down loans because he was promised first team football and then rotted on the bench for the entire season. I would be pissed off aswell. His career compleatly stalled, he could of been playing first team football somewhere instead he sat on the bench watching one of the worst GK in the PL play infront of him.
Why "almost"?I have a soft spot for Henderson, mostly because of that clip where he is in the crowd at Old Trafford celebrating Rashford's debut goal. It's quite clear his priority was to make it at United and he feels let down by the club/Ole over his treatment last season. That still doesn't excuse the fact that he was apparently one of the leaks from the dressing room last season, and him mouthing off to media as soon as he left the club. There are legitimate concerns over his actual ability too. But its genuinely sad to see some of our fans almost reveling in his mistakes.
I'm not pointing a finger at you, but it made me chuckle. A week ago people were blaming Ajax for treating Antony badly, based solely on his side.Isn't this all according to him? For someone with such self assurance, he should have the mental fortitude to accept when someone takes his place because he's outperformed. Nobody is guaranteed a spot and his outburst made him look petty and childish. Calling your employers' behavior 'criminal' is totally unacceptable (unless it actually is).
That's not it at all. He cost them that game yesterday because he couldn't make a decent save when they were 2 up and another at 2-1.Not having a good time of it at all.
Forest is starting to look like a bad move, not sure many keepers would look good with that team playing the way it is in front of them.
No because De Gea saves 2 of them yesterday flower. Not the time for saying he's better than a multiple time POTSYeh this I agree with. Henderson had made up his mind which is fair enough as the club shafted him last season. I’m pretty sure if he had remained he’d be first choice right now though as he’s better than De Gea.
He is not better though. Just look at the last three matches when De Gea was excellent, while Henderson received half a dozen of comical goals.Yeh this I agree with. Henderson had made up his mind which is fair enough as the club shafted him last season. I’m pretty sure if he had remained he’d be first choice right now though as he’s better than De Gea.
Christ don’t be so dramatic. What a massive over-reaction that is.Good character? U clearly don't remember times under SAF, he would have been banished to the U18s for that interview and shipped out at the 1st offer for that. SAF got rid of Becks, Keane and Stam for less and all 3 were far greater players both in contribution and ability.
The fact that you think he's "absolutely correct" shows you're more a fan of the player than the club
Including POTS last year.No because De Gea saves 2 of them yesterday flower. Not the time for saying he's better than a multiple time POTS
There’s clearly a difference but he didn’t say anything bad enough for the mob to jump on him. Mourinho said far worse stuff every week and still maintained his cult following. Lukaku likewise. I just don’t see a huge amount wrong in calling it honestly on this occasion.,So just to be clear, you honestly don't see the difference between people on a message board saying things and a player talking shite about the club that pays his wages? If that's the case, it's clear that there's no hope of having a reasonable discussion here as you clearly can't be objective.
Correct. Why this needs repeated explanations is frankly hilariousIncluding POTS last year.
While De Gea is nowhere as good as before, and actually would be nice if we can upgrade, he is still a very good keeper. Henderson is a relegation EPL/Championship keeper.
The problem with this though is the management (ie: Ole etc.) we're long gone by the time he did this interview, what was the point in dragging all that up when it was in the past and those people that went back on those promises aren't at the club anymore?What was it he said that is so unacceptable?
The club treated him very poorly, broke promises, he wanted first team football turned down loans because he was promised first team football and then rotted on the bench for the entire season. I would be pissed off aswell. His career compleatly stalled, he could of been playing first team football somewhere instead he sat on the bench watching one of the worst GK in the PL play infront of him.
He clearly doesn’t as they were pretty much unsavable. Completely misses the point though anyway in that saves are only a tiny fraction of a keepers body of work. A proactive keeper prevents even having to make saves because they are already dominating other facets of the game such as claiming high balls and sweeping behind the defence. It’s incredible that after 4 years of awful performances De Gea still has such a faithful following, he will cost us more points over the season thats for certain.No because De Gea saves 2 of them yesterday flower. Not the time for saying he's better than a multiple time POTS
You mean the same way that Henderson has had a poor game and the 'Henderson is absolute shit' crowd is in here? Anybody making any strong claims based on one or two games, in either direction, is idiotic.Next time ddg has a poor game the 'Henderson for number one' crowd will be back peddling their nonsense. He's bang average and a complete nob to boot. Glad he's not in house to poison the well but it's a bit of a shame he's playing, as the myth that always flourishes when he's not playing, that he's a decent option, won't get the oxygen so he'll be harder to flog.
That’s easy for you to say but football careers are incredibly short and as a keeper you can sit a whole season without an opportunity. He was promised game time and watched an inferior keeper play on front of him, of course that would piss off any right minded person and frankly I’m surprised he didn’t say something in the media sooner.The problem with this though is the management (ie: Ole etc.) we're long gone by the time he did this interview, what was the point in dragging all that up when it was in the past and those people that went back on those promises aren't at the club anymore?
Just get your head down and try and impress the new management and displace De Gea, that's the best way to do it. I think EtH would've been way more impressed with him doing that and not running away on loan instead.
Nail on the head!De Gea is usually the player of the season due to how crap the team plays - which starts off from De Gea’s inability to be a proactive goalkeeper.
His POTY stuff means shit all to me - he is winning an award that he himself creates.
This season? He’s been his awful self. Cost us one game already which is already basically unforgivable and then has done nothing in the other games. We have had to lose all control of possession because he’s incapable of even passing the ball. If you think these performances are acceptable then we are watching a different player.He is not better though. Just look at the last three matches when De Gea was excellent, while Henderson received half a dozen of comical goals.
He made one of the saves of the season just 2 days ago against Maddison. A save that Henderson is totally incapable of doing.This season? He’s been his awful self. Cost us one game already which is already basically unforgivable and then has done nothing in the other games. We have had to lose all control of possession because he’s incapable of even passing the ball. If you think these performances are acceptable then we are watching a different player.
Nah I definitely did, budI hope that you noticed a pinch or two of sarcasm in that post
No where near as short for a keeper though, he still has alot of years ahead of him. Plus if he's really as good as he himself believes he is then he would've displaced De Gea before the season is over anyway.That’s easy for you to say but football careers are incredibly short and as a keeper you can sit a whole season without an opportunity. He was promised game time and watched an inferior keeper play on front of him, of course that would piss off any right minded person and frankly I’m surprised he didn’t say something in the media sooner.
And we have literally had to give up on Ten Hag’s possession football because De Gea’s inability to play out from the back. So we are kicking it up the pitch and being a possesion based team that has possesion of 30% at times during the game.This season? He’s been his awful self. Cost us one game already which is already basically unforgivable and then has done nothing in the other games. We have had to lose all control of possession because he’s incapable of even passing the ball. If you think these performances are acceptable then we are watching a different player.
It is quite mad, Henderson is average at all aspects of goalkeeping but because he’s a gobshite people actually buy into his self proclaimed hype.Crazy how much support Henderson gets on here, really is no where near good enough yet some would have you believe he is the second coming of VDS.
I am intrested in who the club are scouting long term for the goal keeper position, don’t know much about the prospects coming through at the minuet.
ThanksNah I definitely did, bud
I just found the sarcasm/your comment legit funny.
Our game wouldn't of been much different with Henderson in goal though, because he's not the answer either.And we have literally had to give up on Ten Hag’s possession football because De Gea’s inability to play out from the back. So we are kicking it up the pitch and being a possesion based team that has possesion of 30% at times during the game.
Is this De Gea or Henderson?Amazing how the goalie who has conceded the most goals across the 5 top leagues can be defended so heavily. Quite baffling
Was a good but routine camera save. Pickford made three saves better in his game yesterday. I get it now, De Gea maintains his following just for those spectacular saves. What a shame we cant look past just one singular element of keeping when there are so many other facets he fails at.He made one of the saves of the season just 2 days ago against Maddison. A save that Henderson is totally incapable of doing.
Yep it’s funny people saying “Henderson isn’t the answer” like that’s somehow relevant too. Most of us have said we don’t think he’s the long term answer, but he’s quite clearly better than De Gea at passing, sweeping and claiming high balls and so for the short term (i.e this season) we would still far better with him in net. Hopefully Dubravka comes into the side soon and we get to see yet another keeper who is better at the basics than De Gea.And we have literally had to give up on Ten Hag’s possession football because De Gea’s inability to play out from the back. So we are kicking it up the pitch and being a possesion based team that has possesion of 30% at times during the game.