Cristiano Ronaldo: Set to leave by mutual agreement

Is Ronaldo justified to say that he “feels betrayed” by Manchester United?

  • Ronaldo should be not be allowed to play for United again

    Votes: 1,536 81.7%
  • He's always been a massive bellend

    Votes: 884 47.0%
  • Messi has always been the better player

    Votes: 574 30.5%
  • He should be begged to come back with double the salary and ten Haag should bow to his greatness

    Votes: 126 6.7%

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The problem is if we terminate his contract we'd still have to pay him unless he agrees to a mutual termination, I think he'd only do that if he had another club lined up ready to match his wages
No way we can subsidize his games at his next adventure. Should we not getting a mutually agreed termination, do the Schweinsteiger treatment. Remove his shirt no., clear his locker, but pay his wage until end of season.
 

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It does seem like it. Even Messi seems friends with Neymar and Suarez. Ronaldo doesn't seem to have any close friends.
Strange take, sure he was quite close with Benzema and Marcelo? He always seems to have army of teammates defending him too, although it’s hard to tell whether it’s out of admiration or friendship.
 

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Strange take, sure he was quite close with Benzema and Marcelo? He always seems to have army of teammates defending him too, although it’s hard to tell whether it’s out of admiration or friendship.
Ronaldo is only close to the man in the mirror.
 

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I know to you guys he was/is a legend for your club but to me he has always been one of the most unlikable footballers since he broke into the game. A wonderful footballer no doubt but as a person, pretty horrible and not somebody to look up to.
Many united fans knew it. Thats why is always a debate about his legend status since 2009, But it made sense because of his ability. Since last year he has been complete dead weight. After all this if he still remain a captain and start a single game, even as a sub, i will lose all respect for ETH as well.
 

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Many united fans knew it. Thats why is always a debate about his legend status since 2009, But it made sense because of his ability. Since last year he has been complete dead weight. After all this if he still remain a captain and start a single game, even as a sub, i will lose all respect for ETH as well.
It was always the elephant in the room. Douchebag but amazing skills and our douchebag. Now it's just "douchbag."
ETH will absolutely not allow him to set foot at United again. Even suggesting he might is disparaging to his character.
 

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I'm no lawyer, but surely if he is in breach of his contract we do not have to honor it? Why would we have to pay to terminate his contract if he breaks it?
Yeah hopefully once the full interview is out they'll be enough in there so we'll be able to claim breach of contract and just release him, it's best for everyone that he's gone asap
 

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It’s very sad to see the perception / view many posters here have of ronaldo now.

I’m 35, life long United fan and without shadow of doubt ronaldo has been my favourite footballer. Watching us in 2007-2010 was my favourite and most enjoyable period watching us play and Ronaldo was largely responsible for this.

When he left to Real I was devastated but I understood why he did, always hoped he would come back. I was so happy to see how he further developed and I always vouch that was because his initial development under SAF and being surrounded good role models. If he went to Real from Sporting he maybe never developed into player he became, maybe he would of…. Who knows ???

Anyways….. what is happening is not nice, not ideal and does leave a sour taste. It hurts more because he means so much to us all , just like a girl you love is always going hurt you more then a girl you don’t care for.

Messi left Barca on bad terms, lampard left Chelsea and joined city on bad terms, Torres left Liverpool and joined Chelsea on bad terms, he’ll even Keane left us on bad terms. These are players who are legends for there clubs and are still treated as legends. Let’s not end our story with Ronnie on a bad note. The guy is a legend, he does love United but unfortunately that relationship is no longer sustainable, it doesn’t mean we can’t still love him and respect him.

Ronnie loves United, he has made a mistake but don’t let it cloud the happiness and joy he has brought us. He is still human and humans make mistakes !!!
Speak for yourself, mate. I couldn't care less about Ronaldo. He was never up there in the list of favourite players for me, once he left us in his prime to go to Real Madrid.

I'm about the same age as you (38) and I can safely say my favourite moments supporting the club were the Treble season and regaining our title back from Arsenal in 2002 because that involved most of the members of the Class of 92, a group of players who were the reason for me supporting the club.
 

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No but that’s what I’m saying. If Ronaldo is going scorched earth then there is nothing Ten Hag can do to stop him. It’s not about handling a live grenade, it simply isn’t possible
He'll probably just chuckle at 'scorched earth' just being Ronaldo behaving like a tit and making a fool of himself as usual
 

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He'd have to be an utterly spineless one to think keeping him should be an option
If there are no takers and mutual termination of the contract without paying up the rest of the wages isn't an option then maybe that's what might happen. If it's a mutual end with no payment that's the best case.

The worst case scenario for me is if the club gives in and pays the rest of his deal just to get rid of him. I think that's weak and it harms the club's image. Let him rot in the reserves and let him train with the youth team. I think it happened to Becks at Madrid, Schweinstiger at United so there are precedents with big name players. It'd be a hell of a statement to make.
 

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It’s very sad to see the perception / view many posters here have of ronaldo now.

I’m 35, life long United fan and without shadow of doubt ronaldo has been my favourite footballer. Watching us in 2007-2010 was my favourite and most enjoyable period watching us play and Ronaldo was largely responsible for this.

When he left to Real I was devastated but I understood why he did, always hoped he would come back. I was so happy to see how he further developed and I always vouch that was because his initial development under SAF and being surrounded good role models. If he went to Real from Sporting he maybe never developed into player he became, maybe he would of…. Who knows ???

Anyways….. what is happening is not nice, not ideal and does leave a sour taste. It hurts more because he means so much to us all , just like a girl you love is always going hurt you more then a girl you don’t care for.

Messi left Barca on bad terms, lampard left Chelsea and joined city on bad terms, Torres left Liverpool and joined Chelsea on bad terms, he’ll even Keane left us on bad terms. These are players who are legends for there clubs and are still treated as legends. Let’s not end our story with Ronnie on a bad note. The guy is a legend, he does love United but unfortunately that relationship is no longer sustainable, it doesn’t mean we can’t still love him and respect him.

Ronnie loves United, he has made a mistake but don’t let it cloud the happiness and joy he has brought us. He is still human and humans make mistakes !!!
I have been a United supporter since the 70s. My favourite player back then was Gordon McQueen then Robbo and finally Cantona. There has never been a shadow of a doubt that those mentioned players loves United. Ronaldo only loves himself and United was always a stepping stone to his career, which is fine.
But don't be fooled into thinking that he values United any more than say Sporting or RM. They are only tools for his financial objectives.

It always boggles my mind why he has so many millions of followers on social media.

It's not like he has anything interesting to say. Vacuous at worst or insipid at best. It's all about his botox-ed face or body. So it makes you wonder about his 'followers'.... not that there is anything wrong with that.
 

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If there are no takers and mutual termination of the contract without paying up the rest of the wages isn't an option then maybe that's what might happen. If it's a mutual end with no payment that's the best case.

The worst case scenario for me is if the club gives in and pays the rest of his deal just to get rid of him. I think that's weak and it harms the club's image. Let him rot in the reserves and let him train with the youth team. I think it happened to Becks at Madrid, Schweinstiger at United so there are precedents with big name players. It'd be a hell of a statement to make.
But once again, United get the raw end of the deal. We paid quite a bit to bring him over from Juve plus his exorbitant wages, all with not much of a payback.
 

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It's happening because of the club's corporate-like structure and people.
Ronaldo is a very family-oriented person, if something happens to him personally he expects empathy from the people who know the situation.
He had SAF who always had been caring for the players personally, then the Spanish club then the Italian club.

Imagine him talking to Richard Arnold about personal issues, and expecting a return call about his child's condition. It will never happen, that's why we will always have problems with players like him and Pogba and specific players will always feel like they are corporate employees. Unless the club gives more power to the manager and changes John Murtough with a more respected football person.

I can understand why ETH didn't check on him frequently, it just shows his lack of experience. Now he experienced the situation, it's a good thing.
It's sad to see ETH call an "executive meeting" to decide how to punish Ronaldo, it should be completely up to ETH alone.
 

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If there are no takers and mutual termination of the contract without paying up the rest of the wages isn't an option then maybe that's what might happen. If it's a mutual end with no payment that's the best case.

The worst case scenario for me is if the club gives in and pays the rest of his deal just to get rid of him. I think that's weak and it harms the club's image. Let him rot in the reserves and let him train with the youth team. I think it happened to Becks at Madrid, Schweinstiger at United so there are precedents with big name players. It'd be a hell of a statement to make.
Said this before.

That ego needs to be brought down a few notches and that will royally piss him off too which is good.
 

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I know to you guys he was/is a legend for your club but to me he has always been one of the most unlikable footballers since he broke into the game. A wonderful footballer no doubt but as a person, pretty horrible and not somebody to look up to.
Awful in how he conducts himself in his profession, but he's done a lot for various communities and I've heard firsthand from people that have met him/spent time with him that he's a lovely person.

What he's done here is unacceptable and just another episode in a series of ego-driven acts, but no need to resort to character assassination.
 

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It's happening because of the club's corporate-like structure and people.
Ronaldo is a very family-oriented person, if something happens to him personally he expects empathy from the people who know the situation.
He had SAF who always had been caring for the players personally, then the Spanish club then the Italian club.

Imagine him talking to Richard Arnold about personal issues, and expecting a return call about his child's condition. It will never happen, that's why we will always have problems with players like him and Pogba and specific players will always feel like they are corporate employees. Unless the club gives more power to the manager and changes John Murtough with a more respected football person.

I can understand why ETH didn't check on him frequently, it just shows his lack of experience. Now he experienced the situation, it's a good thing.
It's sad to see ETH call an "executive meeting" to decide how to punish Ronaldo, it should be completely up to ETH alone.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Are you so naive on how companies work? Its not a mom & pop convenient store which is how you are suggesting it should operate.

There are structures and hierarchies which is inevitable for a company that's worth several billion dollars and has an annual turnover in the 500m range.
 

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It's happening because of the club's corporate-like structure and people.
Ronaldo is a very family-oriented person, if something happens to him personally he expects empathy from the people who know the situation.
He had SAF who always had been caring for the players personally, then the Spanish club then the Italian club.

Imagine him talking to Richard Arnold about personal issues, and expecting a return call about his child's condition. It will never happen, that's why we will always have problems with players like him and Pogba and specific players will always feel like they are corporate employees. Unless the club gives more power to the manager and changes John Murtough with a more respected football person.

I can understand why ETH didn't check on him frequently, it just shows his lack of experience. Now he experienced the situation, it's a good thing.
It's sad to see ETH call an "executive meeting" to decide how to punish Ronaldo, it should be completely up to ETH alone.
You seem to be making a lot of assumptions about the amount of communication they occured and what would have been expected.

Where are you getting all of this from?
 

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A lesson from Musk... the rare ones:

Musk is another psycho himself. His comments at the diver "that pedo guy" inflating his ego calling himself Teslas founder when he invested a year later.

He's another one of the great entertainers you'd not want to be near like Ronaldo.

Musk might be violating labor laws in the US too so I can't wait for it to unravel.

I work in Software Engineering it's a good laugh to watch Elon handle the twitter fiasco, I'd actually love to see it go bust, because he's ripping the company apart right now.

The practices like the check marks are ill-thought out and he fired a thousand or so engineers based on how many lines of code they wrote, which is basically firing the top performers at the company. You have to really think about what is the most efficient or elegant solution and not botch together multiple lines of inefficient code.

It's funny that 89% of Twitter employees think he will destroy the company, and he probably will.
 

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Are you so naive on how companies work? Its not a mom & pop convenient store which is how you are suggesting it should operate.

There are structures and hierarchies which is inevitable for a company that's worth several billion dollars and has an annual turnover in the 500m range.
It's not the case for other top-top clubs, they don't mix business stuff with footballing stuff. Which is why clubs that run like us keep failing. We will fail again if we don't give full control to ETH and change DOF. Just look at United's statement that ETH is calling an "executive meeting" for Ronaldo's situation. It's absurd.
Pep is the most powerful man at the city for players, same goes for Klopp.

You seem to be making a lot of assumptions about the amount of communication they occured and what would have been expected.

Where are you getting all of this from?
From Piers's clips.
 

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It's not the case for other top-top clubs, they don't mix business stuff with footballing stuff. Which is why clubs that run like us keep failing. We will fail again if we don't give full control to ETH and change DOF. Just look at United's statement that ETH is calling an "executive meeting" for Ronaldo's situation. It's absurd.
Pep is the most powerful man at the city for players, same goes for Klopp.



From Piers's clips.
RM is the most successful club in the last decade. Do you think their managers have all the power?
 

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It's not the case for other top-top clubs, they don't mix business stuff with footballing stuff. Which is why clubs that run like us keep failing. We will fail again if we don't give full control to ETH and change DOF. Just look at United's statement that ETH is calling an "executive meeting" for Ronaldo's situation. It's absurd.
Pep is the most powerful man at the city for players, same goes for Klopp.
Agreed (if its a DOF AND ETH making decisions), I mean players are there for a manager to get results.

The DOF is also there for long term planning, but ETH knows what he wants and he's proven to have made the right decisions so far.

You know what you are missing in a squad, and you know what isn't working, who isn't performing.

The manager knows how the dressing room is, who has what attitude and where the problems lie.

He should be the first to say this player can get sold, this player is surplus to requirements and the power should be with him.

The DOF and ETH should have full power.

I mean historically speaking, centralised power never works. You need each person to have complete autonomy to do their job without having a CEO or central authority to grant permission or sanction something.
 

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RM is the most successful club in the last decade. Do you think their managers have all the power?
I think he means more that it should be down to a DOF and ETH, if he meant ETH solely then it probably won't work but ETH should have a big say too.
 

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It's happening because of the club's corporate-like structure and people.
Ronaldo is a very family-oriented person, if something happens to him personally he expects empathy from the people who know the situation.
He had SAF who always had been caring for the players personally, then the Spanish club then the Italian club.

Imagine him talking to Richard Arnold about personal issues, and expecting a return call about his child's condition. It will never happen, that's why we will always have problems with players like him and Pogba and specific players will always feel like they are corporate employees. Unless the club gives more power to the manager and changes John Murtough with a more respected football person.

I can understand why ETH didn't check on him frequently, it just shows his lack of experience. Now he experienced the situation, it's a good thing.
It's sad to see ETH call an "executive meeting" to decide how to punish Ronaldo, it should be completely up to ETH alone.
What’s the heck of this? Mind blowing really. No, it’s nuclear nonsense bomb explosion.
 

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I think he means more that it should be down to a DOF and ETH, if he meant ETH solely then it probably won't work but ETH should have a big say too.
Ronaldo is too big a 'star' that the owners have to get involved. If it was Phil Jones, I doubt if the owners even have heard of him.
 

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RM is the most successful club in the last decade. Do you think their managers have all the power?
No, but the difference is they run with football-related people who know how to manage players and fans. We don't have this kind of structure and hierarchy, which is why the manager has to be The One at our club. Or players will keep calling Richard Arnold the "president of the club".
 

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Ronaldo is too big a 'star' that the owners have to get involved. If it was Phil Jones, I doubt if the owners even have heard of him.
The Glazers probably don't realise Phil is at the club, they could pass him on the street and not realise who he is even though he's been with us for 11 years
 

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No, but the difference is they run with football-related people who know how to manage players and fans. We don't have this kind of structure and hierarchy, which is why the manager has to be The One at our club. Or players will keep calling Richard Arnold the "president of the club".
Players? you mean one player? That's just extrapolating evidence based on what one person said.
 

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Wright is consistently one of the most reasonable and level-headed pundits on the telly
 

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It's not the case for other top-top clubs, they don't mix business stuff with footballing stuff. Which is why clubs that run like us keep failing. We will fail again if we don't give full control to ETH and change DOF. Just look at United's statement that ETH is calling an "executive meeting" for Ronaldo's situation. It's absurd.
Pep is the most powerful man at the city for players, same goes for Klopp.

From Piers's clips.
Here is the official statement,
https://www.manutd.com/en/news/deta...cial-statement-on-cristiano-ronaldo-interview
Where does it say ETH is calling an “executive meeting”?
 

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Wright is consistently one of the most reasonable and level-headed pundits on the telly
He's one of those pundits you don't love or hate, because he never says anything controversial but is always fair in his judgment
 
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