It seems you've somewhat turned the page from the sanctimonious diatribes you have been on. I'm happy for you and I'm excited to engage in nuanced discussion about complex topics.
FIFA as you've pointed out don't give a feck about anything, all they're interested in is money.
The actual way people experience an event is related to many factors - from geographical location to personal situation, age etc. Personally, I felt that the last 2 WCs were somewhat dampened affairs compared to some previous ones. But I am very much going to be taken in by this one - simply because it is geographically near - and many of my relatives are going to the event and many Indians have a connection with Gulf countries in one way or the other. I feel that while Europeans may feel this one as a dampened event due to the controversies, it'll be diametrically opposite for many Asian countries.
Great point.
I can definitely relate to what you’re saying. In many ways it is unfortunate that a sporting celebration of such magnitude has to be marred by any sort of controversy. I can imagine the cultural connection that this event would have for fans in the region.
It doesn't benefit anyone. The majority of it's just pure whataboutism either to deflect criticism from Qatar and/or as an excuse to bring up the evils of other countries. And you can guarantee that every person that cries about hypocrisy gets selectively outraged about many things themselves.
Fully agree! I for one will only watch it if it happens to be on in the office or elsewhere. No dollar or pound will go from my pocket to that farce of a tournament.
That first story is particularly sickening and no doubt just one of many and all for a fecking football tournament.
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FIFA and the rest of the world sadly.
I'd say a winter world cup brought to you by corruption is not really a proper WC anyways
The full context of this clip is that the danish reporter is one of the most credible journalists. TV2 who he is representing is the 2nd biggest station in Denmark, so it's not a sensational media like Fox-news.
This a 100%. The World would stop turning, if everyone should have a 100% clean slate to stand up for something
Is corruption odd for a World Cup? And surely, one day, we were due a winter World Cup? With it being a global game, and a game for all, I don't think it's beyond comprehension that sometime in the next few decades it was going to go to a place such as this. (I don't say this as any sort of justification for this tournament, and that we shouldn't do and expect better, rather that I don't think those two aspects stop it being a proper World Cup - simply that one is nothing new, and the other asepct inevitable someday).
Do you think it's possible he might have been paid to say that mate? I mean what's the price of the cheapest group game tickets, £15-20?
Don't think so - it was part of an overall fairly critical piece on Qatar. Sounded genuine enough - but even if it wasn't, it's probably true of some of the workers in the region (say taxi drivers/hotel staff or something - not necessarily stadium workers). I guess we'll see when the games start and we see the crowds but you'd think some will have saved up/got tickets somehow.
Fair enough mate.
The WC ballooning to 48 teams bothers me more.
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Most migrant workers aren't on those wages though, why have you assumed that?
Well I'm going off what I've read. I've read 8-10 articles in the last week alone with migrant workers claiming they're only making around £1 per hour.
Well now you're specialising to construction workers. Sadly, and with the greatest of respect, those folks would most likely not visit an international sporting event in their home country either. The cheapest cricket World Cup ticket 2011 was about £6.
I love using buzzwords, seems to trigger reactions on here.
Well I said migrant workers who were only making £1 an hour mate, between that and the context of this discussion I thought it was clear I was talking about migrant workers on the lower end of the Qatari pay scale.
I'm aware, most of them will be on similarly low wages though.
