Cristiano Ronaldo: Set to leave by mutual agreement

Is Ronaldo justified to say that he “feels betrayed” by Manchester United?

  • Ronaldo should be not be allowed to play for United again

    Votes: 1,536 81.7%
  • He's always been a massive bellend

    Votes: 884 47.0%
  • Messi has always been the better player

    Votes: 574 30.5%
  • He should be begged to come back with double the salary and ten Haag should bow to his greatness

    Votes: 126 6.7%

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You, you mean? Young players are always going to be consistent and seemingly always judged harshly. By his own admission, he doesn't try to teach the young players anything anyway. Like most of his points, it's slightly contradictory.
Just check the Greenwood thread posts pre arrest when you have time. Sounds like you have difficulty agreeing with someone you have deep disdain for.
 

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R: “Those youngsters today have it too easy!”
ETH: “Okay, so how about you have it as easy as those youngsters then and start pressing for 90mins eh?”
R: “No I didn’t mean it like that and who you are you? I don’t respect you”

Did I get this right?
 

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Just check the Greenwood thread posts pre arrest when you have time. Sounds like you have difficulty agreeing with someone you have deep disdain for.
I'm not sure what you mean. You said 'we' so I was pointing out I didn't include myself in that and I don't bother with performance threads as they're really not worth it. A lot of its knee-jerk stuff.

Ronaldo made a lot of shallow points with no real insight at all and the one about youth players was along the same lines. As was pointed out similar was said about Ronaldo's generation. I disagree with him publically slating young players, saying that they wouldn't be able to achieve longevity, and then going on to name Dalot, Martinez, and Casemiro as the only ones that would. That's really poor from a so-called senior player who was captain in a recent match. How do you think that will go down with all of the young players not mentioned?
 

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Ronaldo, who has only ever played a game for a living and been paid millions and millions of pounds to do so since he was a fecking teenager. -

Moans about Gen Z being too soft and not having to struggle like him.

I am not saying he hasn't faced struggles but the idea of him being some type of hardened veteran who came through the hard way is a bit absurd. Does he really think he had any more of a tough time coming through than someone like Antony?
 

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In my view, even if he has said things which we all (largely) principally agree with (for example thematic negatives about the Glazers), I am confused as to why people seem to be praising him for it. It matters not that he said it but why he said it. And you’d need to have your head in a giant pot of sand to not understand that he’s clearly done this to suit his personal agenda, evidenced by his other comments throughout the interview. He isn’t saying anything because he loves Man Utd, he’s saying it all because he wants something and also the attention. This is important, and why there is no reason to give him any credit for anything that he said because there is a very good chance it means nothing to him whereas it does for the rest of us.
 

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IMO United fans are the biggest winners in this fiasco. Ronaldo again showing what a massive bellend he really is, while also calling out the club parasites that are the glazers and their puppet directors. Shame about the team and ETH for being in the middle of this but ETH will handle this in good manner.
 

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In my view, even if he has said things which we all (largely) principally agree with (for example thematic negatives about the Glazers), I am confused as to why people seem to be praising him for it. It matters not that he said it but why he said it. And you’d need to have your head in a giant pot of sand to not understand that he’s clearly done this to suit his personal agenda, evidenced by his other comments throughout the interview. He isn’t saying anything because he loves Man Utd, he’s saying it all because he wants something and also the attention. This is important, and why there is no reason to give him any credit for anything that he said.
Piers Morgan admitted as much on Talksport. He said his goal was to move to another club, preferably in the CL.
 

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Maybe for a different thread but it’s Ronaldo related I guess. Shirt sales aren’t really that immediately lucrative at all comparatively for the club, they’re lucrative for the manufacturer. That said in the first 24h Ronaldo made Juve around 7.5m EUR in direct shirt sales which isn’t exactly insignificant (Independent calculated adidas taking 90%). Monetisation even short term would come mainly from social media and strategic partnerships.

When Ronaldo joined Juve, already a huge club and well known particularly in Europe. Their followers across Twitter, Instagram etc. jumped 62% when he signed - their stock increased 11% in a day. In China alone Juve followers on Weibo rose by nearly 70%. China is an icon market, many fans follow players not clubs (same for South Korea and Son where we used to dominate and now lag way behind Spurs as another example. There are now more Spurs fans in Korea than the U.K.) which is what I think Boehly is very aware of with his whole ‘franchise player’ chat.
7.5M is insignificant when the player makes 31m(not including taxes) and you paid 100m in transfer fee. In order to be lucrative you have to make money out of it and Juventus didn't.
 

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I'm not sure what you mean. You said 'we' so I was pointing out I didn't include myself in that and I don't bother with performance threads as they're really not worth it. A lot of its knee-jerk stuff.

Ronaldo made a lot of shallow points with no real insight at all and the one about youth players was along the same lines. As was pointed out similar was said about Ronaldo's generation. I disagree with him publically slating young players, saying that they wouldn't be able to achieve longevity, and then going on to name Dalot, Martinez, and Casemiro as the only ones that would. That's really poor from a so-called senior player who was captain in a recent match. How do you think that will go down with all of the young players not mentioned?
I don't support the way he went about doing it but am equally concerned when people miss or ignore some of the valid points he made, even if the motivations were not completely altruistic. Won't pull quotes but I believe some even defended the club and owners when the comments first surfaced.
 

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Fair play to him for calling out the Glazers.
Ronaldo is doing this because his ego can't deal with not being the main man and refuses to accept the reasons (his poor performances) for this. Ten Hag has been nothing but respectful, almost to a fault and he still can't deal with it.

Almost everything about the club facilities is firstly untrue and also a mask to try and maintain as much fan support as possible. Him calling out the Glazers (if he does) is a very cynical attempt at masking his self-centred and delusional whining as something more meaningful or altruistic.

Ronaldo cares about Ronaldo.
 

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Piers Morgan admitted as much on Talksport. He said his goal was to move to another club, preferably in the CL.
Yeah - although I mean it was just massively obvious anyway.

At the end of the day the key point here isn’t about discussing and analysing word for word what he’s said. But to principally understand that this interview, as a whole, but also including the content, was simply unprofessional and just not appropriate.

He’s lost a lot of respect, I feel, from our fan base. Sure in future the immediate reaction will mellow and people will remember how fantastic he was in his first spell, but what he’s done here is demonstrated his actual views of United and what United really means to him. And that’ll always stick.

What’s really telling is that he could have actually achieved what he wanted to without some of the needless comments he’s made. And so it speaks to his personality that he’s gone out of his way to be unprofessional.
 

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I don't support the way he went about doing it but am equally concerned when people miss or ignore some of the valid points he made, even if the motivations were not completely altruistic. Won't pull quotes but I believe some even defended the club and owners when the comments first surfaced.
Well, I don't agree with defending the fecking parasites but the point I and others are making is that the self-serving nature of the exercise invalidates any valid points he's making because his motivation is highly suspect. He's also not said anything about the owners we don't already know. If he was in the team and scoring goals there is little chance he'd be saying anything at all. So 'not completely altruistic' is a bit of an understatement.
 

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I don't support the way he went about doing it but am equally concerned when people miss or ignore some of the valid points he made, even if the motivations were not completely altruistic. Won't pull quotes but I believe some even defended the club and owners when the comments first surfaced.
I’m sorry but I just fundamentally disagree with this. If someone has done something wrong as a whole, it’s irrelevant if there might be a minute part of their wrong action that in isolation can be considered as right. Anyone is well within their rights of course to focus on those valid points, but, in my opinion, it’d be the wrong take away from that situation. And would only detract from that wrong action they took. So in my view, it’s not worth even mentioning. There are plenty of people who do have the clubs best interests at heart making the same points he is, we don’t need to listen to Ronaldo drop them in amongst his other disrespectful comments. If anything, it undermines the point even more.
 

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After watching part 1, I couldn't quite shake the suspicion that Piers orchestrated the entire thing through his personal relationship with Ronaldo.

"I'll tell you what, why not simply do a tell all interview on my show. I'm sure that will get them to release you from your contract. I win for both of us"....kind of thing.
 

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But his overall play was below the required standard.

The team also scored a lot fewer goals than previously without him.
This is the biggest thing for me - as a team we scored 16 goals less than the season before and 7 less than the season before that. We also went from a 3rd place finish to a 2nd and to a 6th.

Our downturn from 2020-2021 to 21/22 was due to bringing back Ronaldo.
 

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Won't pull quotes but I believe some even defended the club and owners when the comments first surfaced.
The only thing I've seen on here is that some people have said/suggested that United have actually moved on post Woodward.

Which may or may not be true - the jury's obviously out on that one.

However, the point here is surely that hardly anyone (United fans, not Ronaldo's ridiculous fan club) is buying his "I care about United" bullshit.
 

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Plus he is right about the youth players attitude.

… Game set and match to Ronaldo.
I’m so glad he’s show them such a good example… that pubically trying to force a move, leaving the ground, refusing to come on as a sub, leaving the ground again, publically disrespecting the manager and your team mates on television mid-season when morale is crucial is what true elite players do.

Thankyou Ronaldo. You’ve saved our season. Especially glad he took all the focus off the last minute winner/greatest moment in one of our new youth players lives. That was particularly noble of him.
 
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This is the worst propaganda shit I’ve ever read:nono: Are you protection the Glazers or the old boys club (SAF, Robson..)?

Ole never wanted Ronaldo. We can blaim him for not having the guts to stand up against the system (like Klopp, Pep, Arteta would’ve done), but to say Ole was the driving force…:lol: We all know Ole was a nodding doll.
The old boys don't need protecting from misguided minions and I've made my thoughts clear on the Glazers on numerous occasions.

The evidence is pointing towards Solskjaer when it comes to signing Ronaldo. And Ronaldo was just one of several players he signed that made absolutely no sense when it came to implementing a 'high line, like Jurgen' which Solskjaer stated he wanted to replicate.

Solskjaer made a big mess when it came to recruitment and I will shed more light on his failure in the transfer window starting with the summer window of 2019 later this evening.
 

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This is the biggest thing for me - as a team we scored 16 goals less than the season before and 7 less than the season before that. We also went from a 3rd place finish to a 2nd and to a 6th.

Our downturn from 2020-2021 to 21/22 was due to bringing back Ronaldo.
That's not true. Our performances in 20-21 were extremely inconsistent and we were generally only able to play well for one half, 21-22 was simply a better reflection of our level under Ole. Ronaldo didn't help but he wasn't the main issue.
 

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7.5M is insignificant when the player makes 31m(not including taxes) and you paid 100m in transfer fee. In order to be lucrative you have to make money out of it and Juventus didn't.
I literally said shirt sales are NOT where clubs make their money. Did you bother to read the rest or just being difficult?
 

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I’m sorry but I just fundamentally disagree with this. If someone has done something wrong as a whole, it’s irrelevant if there might be a minute part of their wrong action that in isolation can be considered as right. Anyone is well within their rights of course to focus on those valid points, but, in my opinion, it’d be the wrong take away from that situation. And would only detract from that wrong action they took. So in my view, it’s not worth even mentioning. There are plenty of people who do have the clubs best interests at heart making the same points he is, we don’t need to listen to Ronaldo drop them in amongst his other disrespectful comments. If anything, it undermines the point even more.
But did they say it like he did? About the technology and facilities being the same as when he left? Maybe some degree of exaggeration, but when you look at the state of our training grounds, stadium, women's facilities over the last few years, our recruiting department...is it really so far fetched?
 

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You could consider Ronaldo's comments about the club (direction after Fergie) as something positive - yes. Of course. He's a high-profile individual saying the Glazers have been shite - more or less. So, yeah - that isn't a bad thing in isolation.

It does nothing to redeem Ronaldo himself, though. He has zero credibility as someone "calling out" the Glazers. It's all very transparent to anyone with half a brain.
 

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Why is he suddenly so in demand among all the loons (Kanye and that bald sexist youtybe guy too)? I thought he was considerd to be a bit of a joke in the UK.
He's a fantastic ass kisser. The type of interviewer those people will gravitate towards.
 

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But did they say it like he did? About the technology and facilities being the same as when he left? Maybe some degree of exaggeration, but when you look at the state of our training grounds, stadium, women's facilities over the last few years, our recruiting department...is it really so far fetched?
Whether I agree or disagree with what he is saying isn’t the point though. He could be absolutely spot on, but it’s irrelevant.
 

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That's true for literally every generations, not everyone makes it, the small difference is that current youth players are ready sooner because they are expected to act professionally sooner. And I'm talking about 14 to 20, the current players are more professional than their predecessors.
It’s almost as if no youth players succeed at all any more!!?…. Rather than… exactly the same amount that always have/haven’t.

Or that the exact same thing wasn’t said about Rooney & Ronaldo, who were the first generation to get huge contracts as teenagers rather than forced to clean the first teamers boots like the Fledgling Gen were (who themselves had it better than kids coming up in the 80s)

Everything’s a cloud when you’re an old cnut
 

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What he is saying is what everyone has been saying. Most United fans have been saying this, which is the reason for the Glazer out movement.

Him coming out saying this knowing fully that the fans will side by him if he says what the fans know about the club.

He knows what he is doing, why did he wait now to do this? 18 months after he came? Where was all of this when last season finished?

I dont buy this from Ronaldo. Him saying the new way of football is not for him and running isn't for him when that is what has won the league for the last 5 years. He talks about City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool being ahead but doesn't like that football they play, he wants it to be his style.

Also, regardless of how big the club is, you don't undermine the manager, Ronaldo has done that with Rangnick and EtH then says he prefers to lead by example? What kind of example is he setting?

Finally, we have also seen reports that since EtH has come in, there has been modernisation at the club.
He said very little of substance in that first 40 mins. He was wrong to say some stuff, but on the whole it was a pile of overhyped garbage.

Choosing to so this now in this manner, shows he feels like he don here, it was 100% wrong and for that he needs to go. Which is exactly what he wants.
 

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Just check the Greenwood thread posts pre arrest when you have time. Sounds like you have difficulty agreeing with someone you have deep disdain for.
Greenwood had every right not to listen to Ronaldo with his record and Ronaldo had more than a right not to take to Greenwood.
Theres no point here
 

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You could consider Ronaldo's comments about the club (direction after Fergie) as something positive - yes. Of course. He's a high-profile individual saying the Glazers have been shite - more or less. So, yeah - that isn't a bad thing in isolation.

It does nothing to redeem Ronaldo himself, though. He has zero credibility as someone "calling out" the Glazers. It's all very transparent to anyone with half a brain.
Exactly. If he had made these comments a year ago when he was in the team and scoring goals? Fair play.

Coming out with concerns about the owners when he is no longer first choice? Pfft
 

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I don't support the way he went about doing it but am equally concerned when people miss or ignore some of the valid points he made, even if the motivations were not completely altruistic. Won't pull quotes but I believe some even defended the club and owners when the comments first surfaced.
Context is important. This is self promotion interview. If he is really concerned about the club then there are better ways of expressing his opinion. But today it seems he is using fan‘s emotions to push his agenda and most here are refusing to play in his hand, and rightly so.
 
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