Is there a case for Old Trafford to be expanded?

[Skills]

If so, what kind of capacity could the stadium fill up most weeks?

Could the local infrastructure support another 10k fans on matchday?

 

[Sushi Kagawa]

Yes we could fill out 90k or even 100k but what we really need is a new modern stadium with proper leg room and improved matchday experience

 

[Skills]

Yes we could fill out 90k or even 100k but what we really need is a new modern stadium with proper leg room and improved matchday experience

Cup holders, reclining seats, heated seats add-ons that you can buy would be great

 

[TheReligion]

Isn’t there a big thread on this already?

 

[wolvored]

With proper owners, proper run club there is no reason we cant end up the top club in England and one of the top clubs in Europe again. With this we would easily fill 90k and probably 100k stadium. We used to have 20k waiting list a dozen years ago.

 

[eire-red]

If you could expand the Bobby Charlton Stand and implement safe standing behind both goals, you could probably have close to 90k fans and a big boost in atmosphere I think.

A revamp is also needed, and wouldn't be astronomical in terms of funding needed. Having the Etihad there if any development was to go ahead is a boost too.

 

[cyril C]

The problem is on other stuff, not on capacity. The stadium needs major revamp on director box, hospitality suite, and host of modern features. We can increase the no., of seats by 10K or at most 20K, which is mainly to cover the cost of this expansion.

 

[Hal9000]

If you could expand the Bobby Charlton Stand and implement safe standing behind both goals, you could probably have close to 90k fans and a big boost in atmosphere I think.

A revamp is also needed, and wouldn't be astronomical in terms of funding needed. Having the Etihad there if any development was to go ahead is a boost too.

Think the issue if that there is so much needed in a revamp that it will cost huge... Huge engineering challenges that come with expanding the Bobby Moore stand, and I believe the current roofing also is a challenge.

 

[eire-red]

Think the issue if that there is so much needed in a revamp that it will cost huge... Huge engineering challenges that come with expanding the Bobby Moore stand, and I believe the current roofing also is a challenge.

There's no excuse though for a club like Man Utd. We have the financial means to have state of the art facilities, state of the art stadium and a world class team on the pitch. Even if it means knocking OT and rebuilding it in a more modern version, then so be it.

With the right ownership, this should have already been done. Man Utd has the support to fit 100k fans inside the stadium, week after week.

 

[Nero]

Think the issue if that there is so much needed in a revamp that it will cost huge... Huge engineering challenges that come with expanding the Bobby Moore stand, and I believe the current roofing also is a challenge.

United legend.

 

[fergies coat]

Think the issue if that there is so much needed in a revamp that it will cost huge... Huge engineering challenges that come with expanding the Bobby Moore stand, and I believe the current roofing also is a challenge.

If they could make the Bobby Moore stand as big as the Alex Mcleish stand I'd be happy.

 

[dinostar77]

Yes, fergie wanted this to happen before the glazers took over and back then it was talk of selling out a 90,000 seater stadium every week.

Problem is the railway line and the need to build a tunnel for it so the expansion can fit over it. Unless im mistaken the costs were somewhere around £500-£750mil for the work. My numbers are probably out of date.

 

[red thru&thru]

Yes, fergie wanted this to happen before the glazers took over and back then it was talk of selling out a 90,000 seater stadium every week.

Problem is the railway line and the need to build a tunnel for it so the expansion can fit over it. Unless im mistaken the costs were somewhere around £500-£750mil for the work. My numbers are probably out of date.

Numbers permitting, your overall point is correct.

However, fast forward nearly 2 decades, the technology/construction advancements, needed to do such work, have advanced, and would be more plausible.

Only issue is, the rest of the ground now needs doing, after no significant investment ploughed in over the past 17 years.

 

[dinostar77]

Numbers permitting, your overall point is correct.

However, fast forward nearly 2 decades, the technology/construction advancements, needed to do such work, have advanced, and would be more plausible.

Only issue is, the rest of the ground now needs doing, after no significant investment ploughed in over the past 17 years.

Hence thats why i think we need state ownership. Stadium upgrades/tlc/expansion will burn through a billion pounds.

 

[TheRedHearted]

If so, what kind of capacity could the stadium fill up most weeks?

Could the local infrastructure support another 10k fans on matchday?

How does it work- does United own any hotels that rent out for nights before and After match days ?

 

[red thru&thru]

Hence thats why i think we need state ownership. Stadium upgrades/tlc/expansion will burn through a billion pounds.

Yeah. The club have been quoted around £1.6bn for a new stadium.

If we got someone like Dubai, they have some experience in construction. They would idealto potentially build a state of the are facilities for the club.

 

[Lord Zlatan]

Numbers permitting, your overall point is correct.

However, fast forward nearly 2 decades, the technology/construction advancements, needed to do such work, have advanced, and would be more plausible.

Only issue is, the rest of the ground now needs doing, after no significant investment ploughed in over the past 17 years.

I dont get where the new technology comes in. The old Landsdowne Road in Dublin had a railway line running under one of the stands and that was decades old. The same railway line goes under a stand in the in the new Aviva Stadium. Total cost of that build was €410m.

 

[Vidyoyo]

Personally I'd rather use the money to build a shelter for homeless people or something. OT sits vacant maybe 6 sometimes 7 days per week

 

[Crackers]

I dont get where the new technology comes in. The old Landsdowne Road in Dublin had a railway line running under one of the stands and that was decades old. The same railway line goes under a stand in the in the new Aviva Stadium. Total cost of that build was €410m.

The building of that stadium was completed in 2010, I'm sure the construction costs (per sqm) have increased. Its also 3 sided, and only fits 51000.
Not to mention other costs like wages, consultant fees etc. They'll all have risen in a decade. It's not ridiculous to think

OT could cost 4 times as much.
There's also delivery timelines. They may want it done significantly quicker than Landsdowne Road was, to ensure we're back making money on matchday.

 

[Sushi Kagawa]

We need OT to be knocked down and rebuilt.

 

[TheNewEra]

We need OT to be knocked down and rebuilt.

Can we call it New Trafford

 

[Lord Zlatan]

The building of that stadium was completed in 2010, I'm sure the construction costs (per sqm) have increased. Its also 3 sided, and only fits 51000.
Not to mention other costs like wages, consultant fees etc. They'll all have risen in a decade. It's not ridiculous to think

OT could cost 4 times as much.
There's also delivery timelines. They may want it done significantly quicker than Landsdowne Road was, to ensure we're back making money on matchday.

My point was more to do with the technology rather than the cost. The old stadium which was built in the 60s or 70s was able to build a stand over a busy city centre railway line. I dont get how suddenly there is new technology to allow this when it was always there. Its only one side of the ground we are talking about.

 

[Hal9000]

I dont get where the new technology comes in. The old Landsdowne Road in Dublin had a railway line running under one of the stands and that was decades old. The same railway line goes under a stand in the in the new Aviva Stadium. Total cost of that build was €410m.

It doesn't go under a new stand, irc, it goes under a bridge thing that connects to the stadium. Plus it's the dart not a working passenger and frieght line. We also gave housing the other side of the rail line aswell.

It's a completely different project.