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Forson was impressive today with a hat trick. Vitek, Gore and Hugill were also good.Any players in the U21/18 teams who have a chance of making it, outside Mainoo?
Forson was impressive today with a hat trick. Vitek, Gore and Hugill were also good.Any players in the U21/18 teams who have a chance of making it, outside Mainoo?
I like him - he will go far, but I feel he lack that little extra to make it here. You just have to be very special to make it here - Elanga was better for the reserves than Forson is and he is still far away from being a first-team regular.What are people's views of Forson. I remember when United picked him up he was really highly regarded but I always get the impression that he blows a bit hot and cold.
Think he’ll end up floating somewhere between the championship and league one, which is a very respectable career.What are people's views of Forson. I remember when United picked him up he was really highly regarded but I always get the impression that he blows a bit hot and cold.
Not sure about an injury but he wasn't involved with the U/16's who beat Newcastle 2-1 with a late Oriola winner.
He was on the bench but didn't come on.Thanks for that. Hope he's OK.
Good to see the U16's won as well. Oriola was also a sub for the U18's, wasn't he?
All of our 3 first year CMs are injuredHave not seen Finley McAllister for a long time. I wonder where he is.
Been injured a fair bit here and there every season. I think he has been taking a good stride recently after coming back from injury again so let’s see. His numbers for the U21s seems to be better than the 18s for some reasons.What are people's views of Forson. I remember when United picked him up he was really highly regarded but I always get the impression that he blows a bit hot and cold.
No surprise, he didn't suit Binnion's work horse style of football in the U18'sBeen injured a fair bit here and there every season. I think he has been taking a good stride recently after coming back from injury again so let’s see. His numbers for the U21s seems to be better than the 18s for some reasons.
Shoretire, Hannibal and Mainoo not being there are good for the likes of Forson and Hansen as it forces them to take more responsibilities and being the main threats offensively in midfield.
Who'd have been the first-choice RB ahead of Nolan?I want to praise our young players a bit today. When we played (and destroyed) Newcastle 3-0 we started with the following players:
Harrison, Kingdon, Jackson, Munro, Kamason, Berry, Nolan, Fitzgerald, Scanlon, Musa, Williams
If we had fielded our strongest team - including players promoted to U21 and injured players - realistically only 2 of these players would have started (Jackson and Harrison who seems to be preferred to Hanbury)
In defence - no Fredricsson, Ogunneye, Murray, Lawrence and Aljofree
in midfield - no Gore, Oyedele, McAllister, Moorhouse, Curley and Mainoo
in attack - no Mather, Ennis, Sharpe, Norkett, Wheatley and Missin (perhaps not so strange that he was Missin with that name)
We are talking about 17 outfield-players (I might even have left someone out) who could have started against Newcastle - and the team is still near the top of the table. It'a an insane achievment, and something people should take into consideration when giving the U18s stick.
Nolan isn't even used as a RB with all the other players out. He simply isn't good enough defensively to play RB, so it has made a lot more sense to play him in midfield. But I would guess either use Jackson as RB with Aljofree/Fredricson centrally or Ogunneye. Kamason played there in the last game, and was really good going forward.Who'd have been the first-choice RB ahead of Nolan?
I thought Nolan was quite well regarded and has seemed promising of late.
Ogunneye and LawrenceWho'd have been the first-choice RB ahead of Nolan?
I thought Nolan was quite well regarded and has seemed promising of late.
Even senior players and at United and Ferguson have missed games for those reasons.Randumb question but curious for the answer: at what age group are the youths not allowed to miss out on training/games anymore for general life events (funeral/wedding/etc.)?
I was too broad with my original examples, but more so events geared towards kids like friend/family birthdays, finals at school and smaller things of that sort (Neymar and his sister excluded) The question is more about when do you stop being a kid and more training like an adult type as a general expectation at youth levels, doesnt have to be united exclusive.Even senior players and at United and Ferguson have missed games for those reasons.
if you ask Gary Neville - from the age of 3Randumb question but curious for the answer: at what age group are the youths not allowed to miss out on training/games anymore for general life events (funeral/wedding/etc.)?
We had one just a few years ago mate.What's the youth sides striker that would theoretically be closest to a first team debut? I know Hugill and McNeill are out on loan or otherwise they would be lined up. It's been a while since we've had a proper striker come up and maybe provide an option.
I'd imagine that Hugill is technically closest due to him not actually being out on loan. He has been in scoring form recently for the under 21's also. However, neither are anywhere near ready for the first team. It's likely that they never will be.What's the youth sides striker that would theoretically be closest to a first team debut? I know Hugill and McNeill are out on loan or otherwise they would be lined up. It's been a while since we've had a proper striker come up and maybe provide an option.
Wilson? I had hopes for him.We had one just a few years ago mate.
Yes I've read that he will play on loan and for the youth teams also. You never know who's ready until a proper chance is given.I'd imagine that Hugill is technically closest due to him not actually being out on loan. He has been in scoring form recently for the under 21's also. However, neither are anywhere near ready for the first team. It's likely that they never will be.
Yeah, I should have clarified that technically he is still available to play for the youth as well as Altrincham.Yes I've read that he will play on loan and for the youth teams also. You never know who's ready until a proper chance is given.
Mason GreenwoodWilson? I had hopes for him.
Thanks, I hadn’t realized we have so many not playing. How many are loans and how many are injuries?I want to praise our young players a bit today. When we played (and destroyed) Newcastle 3-0 we started with the following players:
Harrison, Kingdon, Jackson, Munro, Kamason, Berry, Nolan, Fitzgerald, Scanlon, Musa, Williams
If we had fielded our strongest team - including players promoted to U21 and injured players - realistically only 2 of these players would have started (Jackson and Harrison who seems to be preferred to Hanbury)
In defence - no Fredricsson, Ogunneye, Murray, Lawrence and Aljofree
in midfield - no Gore, Oyedele, McAllister, Moorhouse, Curley and Mainoo
in attack - no Mather, Ennis, Sharpe, Norkett, Wheatley and Missin (perhaps not so strange that he was Missin with that name)
We are talking about 17 outfield-players (I might even have left someone out) who could have started against Newcastle - and the team is still near the top of the table. It'a an insane achievment, and something people should take into consideration when giving the U18s stick.
But the first team coaches have made him a winger that's why I overlooked him.Mason Greenwood
Barca U19 won 3-1. Williams scored for us. Their goals by Marc Guiu, 15-year old wonderkid Lamine Yamal and an own goal by Toby Collyer. Ronaldinho's 17-year old (18 in a week) son João Mendes made his unofficial debut for the Barca U19s.
Looks like the United starting XI was something like this:
Vitek; Jurado, Jackson(C), Aljofree/Fredricson, Murray; Collyer, Huddlestone; Forson, Gore, Hansen-Aarøen; Hugill
Subs in (plenty more but only spotted these): Harrison; Kingdon, Nolan; Williams, Musa
Good to see a 36 year old playing against a schoolboy!Barca U19 won 3-1. Williams scored for us. Their goals by Marc Guiu, 15-year old wonderkid Lamine Yamal and an own goal by Toby Collyer. Ronaldinho's 17-year old (18 in a week) son João Mendes made his unofficial debut for the Barca U19s.
Looks like the United starting XI was something like this:
Vitek; Jurado, Jackson(C), Aljofree/Fredricson, Murray; Collyer, Huddlestone; Forson, Gore, Hansen-Aarøen; Hugill
Subs in (plenty more but only spotted these): Harrison; Kingdon, Nolan; Williams, Musa
Close enough Thanks for the info!The starting team was: Vitek; Jurado (c), Collyer, Aljofree, Murray; Huddlestone, Gore; Williams, Hansen-Aarøen, Forson; Hugill
Score was 1-1 at HT with our goal scored by Ethan Williams. In the second half United made numerous changes & had a significantly younger side who ended up conceding two goals in the final 5 minutes.
Harrison, Nolan, Jackson, Musa (u16), Kamason (u16), Berry, Scanlon (u16), Kingdon, Devaney (u16), Mantato (u15), & Munro (u16) were among those who played in the second half.
Well many of them have been moved to the U21 to cover for players out on loan - but a bunch are injured. The ones I know that are injured: Lawrence, Ogunneye, Curley, Ennis, McAllister and I think Moorhouse - probably more as wellThanks, I hadn’t realized we have so many not playing. How many are loans and how many are injuries?
He wasn't made a winger. He was being eased into the team and the league because he was a teenager. I've absolutely no doubt the longterm intention was for him to be our number 9 for many years.But the first team coaches have made him a winger that's why I overlooked him.
Nolan has played nine games at fullback this season...Who'd have been the first-choice RB ahead of Nolan?
I thought Nolan was quite well regarded and has seemed promising of late.
My contacts tell me this is basically correct. Huddlestone played centre-half and virtually all the subs came on with 20 mins to go with the score 1-1.The starting team was: Vitek; Jurado (c), Collyer, Aljofree, Murray; Huddlestone, Gore; Williams, Hansen-Aarøen, Forson; Hugill
Score was 1-1 at HT with our goal scored by Ethan Williams. In the second half United made numerous changes & had a significantly younger side who ended up conceding two goals in the final 5 minutes.
Harrison, Nolan, Jackson, Musa (u16), Kamason (u16), Berry, Scanlon (u16), Kingdon, Devaney (u16), Mantato (u15), & Munro (u16) were among those who played in the second half.
Plus Harrison Parker and Willy Kambwala...I want to praise our young players a bit today. When we played (and destroyed) Newcastle 3-0 we started with the following players:
Harrison, Kingdon, Jackson, Munro, Kamason, Berry, Nolan, Fitzgerald, Scanlon, Musa, Williams
If we had fielded our strongest team - including players promoted to U21 and injured players - realistically only 2 of these players would have started (Jackson and Harrison who seems to be preferred to Hanbury)
In defence - no Fredricsson, Ogunneye, Murray, Lawrence and Aljofree
in midfield - no Gore, Oyedele, McAllister, Moorhouse, Curley and Mainoo
in attack - no Mather, Ennis, Sharpe, Norkett, Wheatley and Missin (perhaps not so strange that he was Missin with that name)
We are talking about 17 outfield-players (I might even have left someone out) who could have started against Newcastle - and the team is still near the top of the table. It'a an insane achievment, and something people should take into consideration when giving the U18s stick.
ah yes - thanksPlus Harrison Parker and Willy Kambwala...
Thanks. That’s a whole lot of injuries for a bunch of teenagers. Makes one wonder if it’s just coincidental or some systematic factor taking effect.Well many of them have been moved to the U21 to cover for players out on loan - but a bunch are injured. The ones I know that are injured: Lawrence, Ogunneye, Curley, Ennis, McAllister and I think Moorhouse - probably more as well