Comparable to last season? No, that never happened. Sarabia's best was his last spell at Sevilla with 12/5 (G/A). Vinicius had 17/10 last season and looking equally dangerous this season too.I'm the same and I can't shake it. He obviously put outsanding numbers last season and seems to continue (especially in the CL because in la liga, we've seen players like Sarabia having comparable performance sheets and he's obviously not a top player) but I just can't see him as an elite player and feel his good spell could end at any time. It's just a feeling though, there's no tangible explanation. The WC will be a good start since he's been pretty disapointing with his NT so far, then the big test will be how he fares in a different sytstem without Benzema.
He's undoubtedly a top top player? He's as good of a ball carrier/dribbler with his pace and ability as anyone in the world. He's been producing elite productivity the past year as well. His pace is matched by very very few around. Defensively he is excellent with his work rate, pressing, etc.Im not questioning his talent in relation to his age. I simply wouldnt call him a top top player just yet. Give it two more seasons.
Sarabia's last season with Sevlla was 13 (or 12 depending on sources)/13, I thought it was a bit closer but it's not that far off.Comparable to last season? No, that never happened. Sarabia's best was his last spell at Sevilla with 12/5 (G/A). Vinicius had 17/10 last season and looking equally dangerous this season too.
Not to mention I have never seen three guys man marking the former.
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I think given that he’s a significant and contributing factor in the Real Madrid attack, and has been for a couple of seasons, that it’s a stretch to not see him as a top player.Im not questioning his talent in relation to his age. I simply wouldnt call him a top top player just yet. Give it two more seasons.
I stand corrected. I had a quick look at the numbers and when I saw the 5 it was corresponding to games played in another competition, not assists.Sarabia's last season with Sevlla was 13 (or 12 depending on sources)/13, I thought it was a bit closer but it's not that far off.
Not really though, he only started to be an important factor for Real Madrid last season, before that he was mainly here to pretend he's a danger on the left wing but he was far from being efficient.I think given that he’s a significant and contributing factor in the Real Madrid attack, and has been for a couple of seasons, that it’s a stretch to not see him as a top player.
The comparison with Haaland doesn't make any sense, it's 2 very different situations. Those who doubted Haaland did probably because of the league he was playing in (despite him having comparable results in the CL), he was dominant pretty much anywhere he went for 3 seasons. Vinicius was just an improved headless chicken until last season. What's strange with Vinicius is that he became very good almost overnight so the future will tell if he really improved drasticaly or if he was overperforming (even if the eye test obviously shows he got better, the question is how much better).He is a top player as currently he's one of the best in his position in a team that just won their league and champions league with him being a very important part of our attack. It's the same with Haaland people were having doubts about him while he was at Dortmund but it was pretty clear his forma and goals weren't an accident or simply luck, he didn't become a top player the moment he signed for City as he was already that good.
Vinicius has also performed in the Champions League and before that what he was lacking was his end product and decision making. To be honest I had little hope in him improving to this degree but he already had the tools. I guess he's still suceptible to regress in form or have a bad patch, like every player does, but he's already one of the best players in the world in his position.The comparison with Haaland doesn't make any sense, it's 2 very different situations. Those who doubted Haaland did probably because of the league he was playing in (despite him having comparable results in the CL), he was dominant pretty much anywhere he went for 3 seasons. Vinicius was just an improved headless chicken until last season. What's strange with Vinicius is that he became very good almost overnight so the future will tell if he really improved drasticaly or if he was overperforming (even if the eye test obviously shows he got better, the question is how much better).
Do they work well together? I haven't watched Brazil for years but presumably Neymar will play down the middle either as AM or CF right?I love Vini, he is absolutely top class and I think him and Neymar will be a strong why Brazil wins the WC in Qatar
Not working amazing so far (even if it was pretty interesting during the game against Ghana) but it could be lethal if Vicinius make the right runs. Neymar plays pretty freely but mostly on the left behind Vinicius in a left wing/midfielder mix.Do they work well together? I haven't watched Brazil for years but presumably Neymar will play down the middle either as AM or CF right?
So he's sort of no.10 but in a free role and goes deep and wide?Not working amazing so far (even if it was pretty interesting during the game against Ghana) but it could be lethal if Vicinius make the right runs. Neymar plays pretty freely but mostly on the left behind Vinicius in a left wing/midfielder mix.
It's a fairly new starting XI for Brazil since Vinicius was far from beeing a guaranteed starter until the start of 2022. I think it was the 6th game he started for them, the 3rd with Neymar in the team.
Pretty much yeah, but he naturally plays more on the left (which makes the team tilt slightly to this side).So he's sort of no.10 but in a free role and goes deep and wide?
i saw the match v Ghana and they were amazing together - had telepathic understanding of each other’s movement and the ability to deliver the correct ball effortlesslyDo they work well together? I haven't watched Brazil for years but presumably Neymar will play down the middle either as AM or CF right?
Interesting, if they can make it work then they have to be in with a good shout of winning the tournament. I could see Argentina and Brazil both going a long way.i saw the match v Ghana and they were amazing together - had telepathic understanding of each other’s movement and the ability to deliver the correct ball effortlessly
The potential is huge but they had a tendancy to end up in the same area, it could really be a lethal duo with a couple of extra games toghether though. Snce the team is tipped to the left side, Vinicius could make more runs behind the center backs instead of sticking to his side as much as what he's doing now.i saw the match v Ghana and they were amazing together - had telepathic understanding of each other’s movement and the ability to deliver the correct ball effortlessly
He's not. It's probably his 1st very good game with Brazil in a total debacle. He was nothing special in the group stage when he had the chance to carry the team without Neymar (and is mostly underwelming with Brazil).All the talk is of Mbappe and Haaland as the future superstars but this guy is up there too.
Says the PSG super fan.He's not. It's probably his 1st very good game with Brazil in a total debacle. He was nothing special in the group stage when he had the chance to carry the team without Neymar (and is mostly underwelming with Brazil).
He's also just "good" with Real Madrid in La liga this season (which is often the case when Benzema isn't playing). He's a very good player, but not "up there".
I can give you the name of many players outside of PSG that are "up there", but if one player is for Real Madrid it would be Benzema, or Modric (even if he's getting older). Vinicius is a very good team player, his composure got much better in the past 2 seasons but he's a level below up there.Says the PSG super fan.
No offense intended
He’s only 22 by the way. By 25 I think he will be up there. His dribbling is sensational.I can give you the name of many players outside of PSG that are "up there", but if one player is for Real Madrid it would be Benzema, or Modric (even if he's getting older). Vinicius is a very good team player, his composure got much better in the past 2 seasons but he's a level below up there.
He might be, I usually don't bet on the future. I sometimes have an intuition but we're often proven wrong, one way or the other.He’s only 22 by the way. By 25 I think he will be up there. His dribbling is sensational.
Valverde say hi?I can give you the name of many players outside of PSG that are "up there", but if one player is for Real Madrid it would be Benzema, or Modric (even if he's getting older). Vinicius is a very good team player, his composure got much better in the past 2 seasons but he's a level below up there.
Yeah, this season Valverde is hands down Real's best player. I had mostly last season in mind when talking about Benzema or Modric. This is not true this season.Valverde say hi?
According to toni kroos, valverde is in top 3 players in europe.
To be fair, Klopp is usually good on this kind of stuff.Tweet
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Klopp looked genuinely puzzled that the journalist could ask a question like that.Fantastic by Klopp, albeit completely mental we’re still in this day and age having to highlight and admire such responses
