This is what I would term a reasonable position…It's possible to like and trust the manager, while not agreeing with absolutely everything he says or does. What's the point in discussing anything on this forum, if it comes down to ETH being right on everything?
No person is right about everything. Every manager makes mistakes. The fans can criticise decisions that they believe are wrong.
Not unreasonable no, I'm just surprised at some of the terms usedIt's possible to like and trust the manager, while not agreeing with absolutely everything he says or does. What's the point in discussing anything on this forum, if it comes down to ETH being right on everything?
No person is right about everything. Every manager makes mistakes. The fans can criticise decisions that they believe are wrong.
It was created before Eriksen was injuredpeople keep going on and on about ten hag and how hes the right manager but we also thought the same of ole, to most posters managers are only trusted as long as theyre winning. this thread is an example, only after we got beat by arsenal and eriksen got "injured" by a donkey was this thread created.
Sooo, what mistakes did Ten Hag make?The overall consensus is that people are behind him, but managers aren't infallible and can make mistakes and people should voice their concerns and criticisms. It's a forum after all.
Lack of rotation seems to be the main one and buying AntonySooo, what mistakes did Ten Hag make?
Nonsense, we don‘t have a bench strong enough to rotate heavily. We are not yet as strong as City.Lack of rotation seems to be the main one and buying Antony
You don't need squad as strong as City to rotate vs Reading at Old Trafford FFS, it's fine people can trust EtH and still question few of his decisions.Nonsense, we don‘t have a bench strong enough to rotate heavily. We are not yet as strong as City.
Antony is improving every game. Too early to write him off don‘t you think? Who would you have bought instead of Antony?
I think Ten Hag disagrees with you. A heavily rotated squad means you are willing to throw the game. Making a few rotations is fine as long as you trust the players. I think that is the issue here. Hag put out a team he thought could do the job.You don't need squad as strong as City to rotate vs Reading at Old Trafford FFS, it's fine people can trust EtH and still question few of his decisions.
Maybe his thinking was he can rotate vs Forest as it's a tie that's almost as good as done.
People moaning about squad, this is the same squad playing like dog shit finished 6th and then in top 4 in 2 seasons before that. You can't have 25 superstar players in the squad.
Absolutely. He’s been brilliant. We’ve gone from a club in depression where the fans detested the entire squad to possibly a top 4 finish and a huge sense of positivity.I think he has done a remarkale job turning things around.
I’m glad we played a strong team. We are what 5 years without a trophy? That’s shambolic for a club of this stature. Every cup has to be considered to be critical this season. That should be the mentality. Top 3 or top 4 in the end is the same thing really.I think Ten Hag disagrees with you. A heavily rotated squad means you are willing to throw the game. Making a few rotations is fine as long as you trust the players. I think that is the issue here. Hag put out a team he thought could do the job.
A weaker line up could easily have run into trouble. It was 0-0 at halftime.
The same people moaning about rotation wanted to replace the whole squad last season, including the likes of Rashford, Varane and Shaw.
I expected a strong line up and think we will see more rotation on Wednesday. But Hag will put out a squad that won‘t run into trouble.
Shame SAF didn't know this and he kept rotating his squad so much that we didn't field same 11 in consecutive games for some 150+ games. Maybe he always wanted to throw away the game and somehow kept winning.I think Ten Hag disagrees with you. A heavily rotated squad means you are willing to throw the game. Making a few rotations is fine as long as you trust the players. I think that is the issue here. Hag put out a team he thought could do the job.
A weaker line up could easily have run into trouble. It was 0-0 at halftime.
The same people moaning about rotation wanted to replace the whole squad last season, including the likes of Rashford, Varane and Shaw.
I expected a strong line up and think we will see more rotation on Wednesday. But Hag will put out a squad that won‘t run into trouble.
Yeah, I can name 10 times I was mad at Ferguson. This forum is basically for discussing those sorts of things, overhyping youth players and asking people who follow a league if a new transfer to the Prem is any good.It's possible to like and trust the manager, while not agreeing with absolutely everything he says or does. What's the point in discussing anything on this forum, if it comes down to ETH being right on everything?
No person is right about everything. Every manager makes mistakes. The fans can criticise decisions that they believe are wrong.
Those are the two main areas that he gets flak on, I don't go along with it personallyNonsense, we don‘t have a bench strong enough to rotate heavily. We are not yet as strong as City.
Antony is improving every game. Too early to write him off don‘t you think? Who would you have bought instead of Antony?
That painful 7 Nil was a mistake surelyLack of rotation seems to be the main one and buying Antony
It’s an incredibly badly run club that was previously incredibly well run.I have a somewhat irrational fear that this club is cursed and thus turns everyone to shite. Good players, good managers, possibly even good tea ladies and janitors. Everyone seems to regress when joining Manchester United. As such, it's hard to trust anyone now.
I have more trust in him than I had in any post-Fergie manager though.
So you think Howe is a better manager than ETH?It’s an incredibly badly run club that was previously incredibly well run.
The decisions from the very top down are almost universally poor and at times outright negligent.
In truth, ETH is probably a Spurs level manager - which is not to be sniffed at, but so unbelievably bad have the decisions been from Utd post SAF that people are (understandably) wilful to believe he’s the guy to take on Guardiola, Klopp and now Newcastle - he isn’t, but he’s a good manager.
It depends really on what your ambitions are as Man Utd fans.
I am not sure we were incredibly well run as you put it by modern football's standards. We were privileged to have one of the greatest leaders in the history of sports who had built the modern club but only he could run it in that way. The model was never sustainable which is something that was predicted during SAF's later years. We were always going to have to modernise to keep up with how modern clubs were being built like Chelsea and City and how the European powerhouses modernised with time because they never gave as much authority to the head coach.It’s an incredibly badly run club that was previously incredibly well run.
The decisions from the very top down are almost universally poor and at times outright negligent.
In truth, ETH is probably a Spurs level manager - which is not to be sniffed at, but so unbelievably bad have the decisions been from Utd post SAF that people are (understandably) wilful to believe he’s the guy to take on Guardiola, Klopp and now Newcastle - he isn’t, but he’s a good manager.
It depends really on what your ambitions are as Man Utd fans.
The fact that as the seasons worn on we have almost uniformly performed well in first halves & then fallen apart in the second is as close to concrete evidence that this is the issue as it’s possible to get…The ones that understand the implications of playing midweek fixtures every single week for 5 months straight do. Feel sorry for the unfortunate ones that don’t understand this tbh.
