So is Hellblade an Xbox exclusive? The first one was one of the most interesting games I've played in years, despite fairly limited gameplay. The trailer for the second one is incredible. I'm sure it was meant to come out last year
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But the PS3 eventually started doing well because of the games - IIRC sales weren’t as high as anticipated because of a) a ridiculously high price and b) a very poor game offering for the first year or so.
I opt for PS/Nintendo each generation because of the game output, not because of some misplaced loyalty to Sony. MS struggles because it just doesn’t have the output in terms of its game offerings. You seem to want to blame everything else other than the thing that matters most!
True but MS can get tae feck. I've always been a leaper as I find tech companies only incentivise when their market share is lower. That's often the best time to hop on the bus and party down.
The best thing for gamers IMO would be Starfield and perhaps Fable being a smash hit and more people moving over to Xbox, which would hopefully prompt Sony to consider their own priorities and make their console even better. We can see already how the threat of gamepass - as hollow as we want to consider that - put them into a position where they had to offer an alternative subscription service. I frankly don't think that would have happened otherwise but it's good it did.
Console exclusive yeah. It'll be on PC too.
Yep, we need strong competition to drive forward.
Bring back the Dreamcast.
MS fecked that one up too.
The S is excellent for people that aren’t weirdly passionate about computer games on forums and aren’t bothered about fidelity and fps.
It’s not going to hold anything back other than performance for people on the S. That’s just the edgy angle from those desperate to denigrate. Considering there are already performance options on most games - zero problem. I’d be more concerned about third party devs pumping out mediocrity. That’s what going to hold back this gen.
What is wrong with you?
How?
Had some great games on it tbf. Though I wasn’t a huge fan of the Sega Saturn.
PS1/SNES was a dream combo.
Partially tongue-in-cheek, partially true.
The version of Windows CE and Directx MS made for it never worked properly, and they never supported developers. So you had a super expensive to produce and powerful machine running games that ran like modern console to PC ports run. Add to that MS were already developing the Xbox behind closed doors at that point and there were plenty of grumbling among developers at the time that whilst maybe not deliberate sabotage, Gates definitely didn't want them to rush to fix anything. He then, when the Dreamcast was almost dead, refused to allow the DC games to be put on the Xbox to help Sega recoup some costs (after agreeing to no rival hardware in return).
Basically it's another example of Gates crushing the competition in the good ol' days.
I don't tag you because it's tiring to discuss with someone who's aim in every post is to demonstrate how much more they know than anyone else and how they knew all along and told everyone before but nobody listened.
No I agree completely. The brand loyalty is deserved for Sony and Nintendo. I'm just saying 1 or even a few games can't undo that. They need to sustain quality and quantity for years to start moving the needle and even then its unlikely to be people moving from PS to Xbox but instead an increased share of new customers as the gaming pie grows and also an increase in second (or third) console owners.
Not being able to be the market leader doesn't mean there isn't a need for more good games. That's why I don't have concerns with him saying that and don't see it being an issue.
You said I'd try to say you didn't say something.
And you only think that's my aim because you refuse to ever learn. Instead you pop up right after Phil opens his mouth and go on another one of your missions to gloss over the problems, even to the point of what the fanboys on twitter are doing and putting the blame for Redfall being forced out on Arkane.
What is actually tiring is people like you who defend all they do and buy into it regardless, which is helping hold it back. Funny though that you cannot answer my points once again.
You seem to forget the OG Xbox, the 360 and all the money and effort that went into those...And you don't have a concern with the way he's admitting they fecked it again? Yet you think in a couple of gens time they'll magically get it right when they show nothing even close to that at the moment, and the one thing they are publicly trying at huge expense you think doesn't really matter?
Nothing adds up.
Whilst we agree they don't need to be top dogs, what you don't seem to understand is that's exactly what they were trying to be. It was only during development of the boner that they changed tack when they didn't sell the division (went cheaper basically). With the attempted purchase of Activision they are definitely trying to secure top dog status again down the line. It's completely disingenuous to act and claim otherwise, and it's not great to act like old Phil is talking straight when he is in charge whilst they are going backwards.
What are you talking about I said there's no excuse for MS to let it release in that state, that they've found no balance in studio management and that they seem to have been distracted by Activision deal which yes I don't think is necessary to being able to produce great first party output considering they already have 25 studios.
#projectglossover
#projectglossover
Activision isn't about the studios as such though, you know that. Do you even know why it was blocked?
Next year will be the year, next gen will be the gen. Before this gen, before the last, you couldn't stop saying about how MS have got it right, will sort the problems, so much is coming...Praising Phil for telling it straight is laughable, but you know that too. The fact MS haven't changed in fact they have got worse, and the likes of Phil and yourself have u-turned on all the bluster now is just all so predictable.
The Xbox division needs a clear out at the top, they have been terrible for a long time and just don't know how to understand games nor the development cycle.
All people want are the games, no one really gives a shit about all the rest of it. If they can't do that, then "brand loyalty" becomes something that means very little to all but the most dedicated.
Next year will be the year, next gen will be the gen. Before this gen, before the last, you couldn't stop saying about how MS have got it right, will sort the problems, so much is coming...Praising Phil for telling it straight is laughable, but you know that too. The fact MS haven't changed in fact they have got worse, and the likes of Phil and yourself have u-turned on all the bluster now is just all so predictable.
The Xbox division needs a clear out at the top, they have been terrible for a long time and just don't know how to understand games nor the development cycle.
All people want are the games, no one really gives a shit about all the rest of it. If they can't do that, then "brand loyalty" becomes something that means very little to all but the most dedicated.
I know the reasons they gave. I have other opinions on the real reasons it was blocked but I wont get into that here.
When did I praise Phil sorry? Just talking out of your arse as per.
I haven't said next year or next gen will be our year. I've been saying the opposite and that only if they do x, y, z can they even be part of the conversation nevermind anything else. That's the reality of where they're at.
Do you go into every United thread hounding people who say United have problems or are a bit shit because at some point in time they had some hope but your pessimistic arse always knew best.
I bet your wife can't complain about petrol prices without you reminding her that she voted for tories 15 years ago and you told her then and every day since how she'd live to regret that decision. Oh and now she's u-turning because the shit has hit the fan and she really is nothing more than bluster.
I love annoying you!In my defence I'm in a bit of a mood because I'm stuck at a family event and I've just started Returnal and am in to it, so now I've got the gaming withdrawal shakes AND I've got to admit to Elvis he is right about it. And no one needs that!
But you do always say next gen/next year and bang on about what's coming.
Its all you can say about them really isn't it. They're stuck on square one of building a library. They need to get it right every year for about 5 years to be relevant. Even when they have gotten it right its hard to see much sequel potential.
In my defence I'm in a bit of a mood because I'm stuck at a family event and I've just started Returnal and am in to it, so now I've got the gaming withdrawal shakes AND I've got to admit to Elvis he is right about it. And no one needs that!
But you do always say next gen/next year and bang on about what's coming.
Check out the returnal thread when you get a chance. Theres a post in there about changing a few options that make it a lot better.
For all the passion around Xbox bollocksing it, it’s funny that I can still play 99% of games to the same standard as the other console. People here seem to conveniently forget that part when they’re getting all passionate with their denigration.
Returnal is fantastic, my favourite game this gen. Enjoy!
In my defence I'm in a bit of a mood because I'm stuck at a family event and I've just started Returnal and am in to it, so now I've got the gaming withdrawal shakes AND I've got to admit to Elvis he is right about it. And no one needs that!
But you do always say next gen/next year and bang on about what's coming.
Wasn't Redfall made by the Deathloop team? man, that game was the most overrated game i've played in years. Couldn't believe it reviewed so well.
Same devs but diff team. It was the team who made Prey. The Deathloop team are the ones who made Dishonoured.
Cheers mate, I'll take a look. Appreciate it.
Both the X and S are fantastic machines in their own right in terms of design and build. They should never have cheaped out on the S' memory though, but all in all they are so much better than the last gen machines.
Early days, but I think I'll definitely get in to this one. I do have some minor quibbles about the ADS and shooting in general, but this is more about the movement anyway. And I'm not sure what was different on launch, but the amount of teleports and the way the game works, why were people calling it unfair and wanted checkpoints?
Anyway I'm eager to play more, which is rare of late.
It's funny, for all the praise Prey got, I preferred Dishonored. That's probably because I think System Shock 2 is one of the best games ever made (certainly for atmosphere) and I found Prey too sterile compared despite clearly taking a lot of inspiration from it.
I think Arkane's reputation is a little over blown, but I like them and at least they used to try and their stuff was still different. No idea what Redfall was supposed to be all along though, it's so weirdly unfocused.
There were some complaints about the lack of save and quit, as runs could be pretty long and someone else might want to use the PS5. That's more a convenience thing and less about fairness though.
Anyway, brilliant game. If you haven't done it already, try switching sprint to always on in settings. Was a game changer for me, but might not work for everyone.
Ahhh, that makes sense. I'm on PC and it's in there so I'm guessing they've since patched it in.
Also the sprint tip makes sense, cheers. I'm still confused about the terminology and items, but that's the best part of games for me, figuring stuff out and being overwhelmed at the start. Also no way I'm ever turning down items even if corrupted (too greedy!), so I feel like I'm in for a long ride
But this is right up my street, I liked Remnant a lot and this is the perfect fast paced compliment to that (and borrows plenty from it too, which is not a bad thing).
Anyway, probably shouldn't go on about it in here anymore. Will make the X-Bots jealous!
Returnal is a cracking game. Surprised such an esteemed gamer as yourself has yet to play it 
Waiting for PC + patches and then forgot about it. Elvis mentioned it the other day during the whole exclusives thing and reminded me about it.Returnal is a cracking game. Surprised such an esteemed gamer as yourself has yet to play it
Plus I just have so many games to catch up on, and have been teaching my son Rimworld, so yeah...shut it you.
(It's off to a cracking start, got me hooked!)
Redfall looks like a PS2 game
This thread is to discuss the Xbox Series X and its games only. Go to the PlayStation 2 thread if you wish to discuss that console, and if you wish to compare the two/console war, go to the PS2 vs Xbox Series X thread.Redfall looks like a PS2 game
Is the 64 metacritic score unrepresentative? 64 suggests a forgettable, underwhelming misfire, not the absolute shitfest it's being described as here.
Redfall looks like an Xbox 360 game
It is inflated. 64/100 should be remotely playable.
I just watched the SkillUp review and wow. It is shocking.
Saw your comment and gave it a watch. Hilarious review but feck me - what the hell were those developers up to? That bulb mission was particularly special.
No mate, metacritic is the be all and end all
Aggregated critic scores will never be reflective of games from big studio developers. Fanboy reviewers and paid-for reviews always push the average up. Forspoken also sitting at 64 on Metacritic and that's a 3/10 shitfest same as Redfall.
That's a relief
Ah yeh, makes sense. I'm not in the know with this sort of thing so appreciate the explanation.
Fecking hell, how did this get released?
Not much on Xbox I am too excited far right now until Forza Motorsport arrives. Always preferred the Motorsport games over the Horizon ones.
At the minute I am back on Cities Skylines but other than that my Xbox has become a paperweight recently. I was interested in Redfall but I think I will stay clear of it. It is giving me Fallout 76/Cyberpunk release vibes.
At the minute I am back on Cities Skylines but other than that my Xbox has become a paperweight recently. I was interested in Redfall but I think I will stay clear of it. It is giving me Fallout 76/Cyberpunk release vibes.