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Does Garnacho remind you of Ronaldo?

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This isn't a messiah thread, more curious if those of you watching us in the early 2000s relate to this.
  • Teenager
  • Insane raw ability
  • Surrounded by an experienced team.
  • Manager trying to keep him in check but clearly excited (without showing it).
  • Left winger, not afraid to run at people, can score a goal.
  • Good players in the team excited by his talent, bad players weary.
  • A bit petulant.
  • Murmurs of excitement and anticipation when he is on the bench.
  • Not the finished product, but clearly could be if he works and bulks over the next 3 years.
Its hard to explain, but when he scored this weekend, the way he totally ignored Weggy, his reaction and his stare in to the crowd, his confidence borderline total arrogance, it just gave me the same feeling as Ronaldo's first season.

IF (and a massive if) he develops the way he can, he 'feels' like a Man Utd 7.

Thoughts?
 

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The hype around Ronaldo was pretty big at the time. Garnacho is our best young talent at the moment but he’s not at that level. Greenwood was a bigger talent in recent times.

Ronaldo was also walking into a proper team with serial winners. What have our senior pros won really?
 

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If I close my eyes, still no
 

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Nah. I think Garnacho is way more direct and wants to utilise off the ball pace — Ronaldo had a lot more showmanship to his game even from the very start.

Garnacho has more rugged grit to his game.
 
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Not really, different kind of player.

Garnacho is much more of a space merchant right now, and he's brilliant at that. He hasn't really shown anything yet about playing against a tight defence. Young Ronaldo was all tricks and dribbling and beating defenders
 

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Yes. But other players have too before fading into something less bright. Martial in his first season being the most recent example or greenwood. I think garnachos still to be found out yet. Which makes him an effective weapon. No one could stop Ronaldo though, and that's where he needs to get to. Only time will tell
 
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I do see similarities, confidence being the main one. Compare Garnachos confidence at 18 to Rashford and CR7. His attitude is a lot more like CR7 than Rashford who at 18 looked a bit overawed. Garnacho is in no way overawed.
Whether he has CR7s work ethic to improve himself is another thing that none of us will know for a few years.
 

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I’ve said it in his thread - he reminds me of Michael Owen.

If Owen appeared now there is no way he would be played as the lead striker. He’d be used as Garnacho is, from wide looking to exploit his pace.
 

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Weird comparison. Ronaldo was a striker and established in Brazil’s national team early on. Garnacho didn’t even get picked for Argentina’s World Cup squad.
 

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Not really, different kind of player.

Garnacho is much more of a space merchant right now, and he's brilliant at that. He hasn't really shown anything yet about playing against a tight defence. Young Ronaldo was all tricks and dribbling and beating defenders
I’ve said it in his thread - he reminds me of Michael Owen.

If Owen appeared now there is no way he would be played as the lead striker. He’d be used as Garnacho is, from wide looking to exploit his pace.
Yeah, this. Garnacho wants to be out wide running onto through passes.
 

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Nah, he looks good but Ronaldo was electric from the off. I also didn’t see his massive improvement coming, he went from a show pony to being devastating quite fast.

Garnacho has something for sure, reminds me a bit of Di Maria as a player actually.
 

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Mentality yes. He's so determined and assured but without the undue arrogance that many other players suffer from.
 

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This isn't a messiah thread, more curious if those of you watching us in the early 2000s relate to this.
  • Teenager
  • Insane raw ability
  • Surrounded by an experienced team.
  • Manager trying to keep him in check but clearly excited (without showing it).
  • Left winger, not afraid to run at people, can score a goal.
  • Good players in the team excited by his talent, bad players weary.
  • A bit petulant.
  • Murmurs of excitement and anticipation when he is on the bench.
  • Not the finished product, but clearly could be if he works and bulks over the next 3 years.
Its hard to explain, but when he scored this weekend, the way he totally ignored Weggy, his reaction and his stare in to the crowd, his confidence borderline total arrogance, it just gave me the same feeling as Ronaldo's first season.

IF (and a massive if) he develops the way he can, he 'feels' like a Man Utd 7.

Thoughts?
Ronaldo was a right winger when he joined United and I do believe he played the majority of his games on the RW. He did obviously play LW as well but in my memory he was predominantly on the right. I am open for correcting mind you as memories are not reliable
 

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I would say he reminds me more of Greenwood when he broke into the first team. Diffeeent kind of players but they both had the X-factor where you just knew they had magic moments in them and the raw ingredients to take them right to the top. One of those players where you’ll happily accept all the mistakes and bad decision making that will come with learning because you know the kid has got what it takes to be a superstar.
 

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Not really, different kind of player.

Garnacho is much more of a space merchant right now, and he's brilliant at that. He hasn't really shown anything yet about playing against a tight defence. Young Ronaldo was all tricks and dribbling and beating defenders
Ronaldo at this age was exciting yet often very frustrating. Overall he had a good debut season but very inconsistent. His overindulgence and poor decision making was very obvious.
 

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Why do him (or anyone) the disservice of comparing them to arguably the best ever player, especially with how quick our lot are to turn on a player. Just enjoy watching a potential star come through the ranks and see what happens.
 

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Yes, in terms of impact.

Not since Ronaldo has a player excited me when they receive the ball like Garnacho. Genuinely. Not pogba, not greenwood, not since Ronaldo.

I honestly think this lad had the potential to go to the very top. People forget he's only 18 and is this good already.
 

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Ronaldo was hyped a lot more. We bought him for relatively big money for an 18 year old and he was our answer to not signing Ronaldinho (even though Fergie said the plan was to also buy Ronaldo but the following season).

Garnacho looks a really good talent but some of the things Ronaldo did at that age was insane. Garnacho seems to be a more direct threat though and is pretty mature in his finishing which is fantastic at such a young age. I have high hopes he can become a great player in his own right but Ronaldo was a one in a million talent from the start.
 

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The only similarity between Garnacho and Ronaldo in his early days was the buzz when he was coming on. You could feel it yesterday, the atmosphere went up a notch or two when he came on.
 

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People exaggerate how good Ronaldo was in his teens based on his success in his later years. Based on talent alone, Garnacho has what it takes to become as good, if not as successful, as Ronaldo. It depends on himself and luck with injuries.

The only 2 footballers who were touted as extraordinary talents around the sane time as Cristiano were Messi and Rooney. Rooney, I always felt was a huge talent but quite a bit hyped up by the English media whereas Messi was the truly extraordinary talent of his generation; above everyone else.

Ronaldo's raw talent was similar to the likes of Robben, Ribery, Quaresma, Di Maria. Ronaldo was ofcourse much more successful than them because of his single mindedness, work ethic, and the unexpected development of goalscoring ability.
 

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I’ve said it in his thread - he reminds me of Michael Owen.

If Owen appeared now there is no way he would be played as the lead striker. He’d be used as Garnacho is, from wide looking to exploit his pace.
Poor old Jamie has no chance.
 

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Why do him (or anyone) the disservice of comparing them to arguably the best ever player, especially with how quick our lot are to turn on a player. Just enjoy watching a potential star come through the ranks and see what happens.
Nobody is comparing him to Messi.
 

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Ronaldo was hyped a lot more. We bought him for relatively big money for an 18 year old and he was our answer to not signing Ronaldinho (even though Fergie said the plan was to also buy Ronaldo but the following season).

Garnacho looks a really good talent but some of the things Ronaldo did at that age was insane. Garnacho seems to be a more direct threat though and is pretty mature in his finishing which is fantastic at such a young age. I have high hopes he can become a great player in his own right but Ronaldo was a one in a million talent from the start.
Simply not true. He belonged to a group of similarly talented footballers. He rose above them due to determination and hardwork that no other player had/has.
Why do him (or anyone) the disservice of comparing them to arguably the best ever player, especially with how quick our lot are to turn on a player. Just enjoy watching a potential star come through the ranks and see what happens.
Totally disagree because his game lacked the genius in his allround game of the likes of (chronologically) Pele, Maradona, L. Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Messi to name a few. What he has in his favour are stats and longevity. Hack, in the Premier league, most who are not United fans, will tell you that Henry was better.
 

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Not close. He looks like he should be a decent player. He definitely will not be close to Ronaldo level.