Nah. I would pick Mainoo over Ceballos and I would pick Mainoo+Rabiot over nearly anything that includes Ceballos. Ceballos is Real Madrid's Lingard.It’s more beggars can’t be choosers tbhdidn’t realize I’d have to fight for more life defending him, which is not a hill I am willing to die on. If we’re signing another mid for free on top of the Case/Eriksen upgrade/understudy signings that are hopefully coming, I’d prefer a cheap technical option and he fits the outline of the ideal 8 if you squint.
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Rabiot is a pretty good 6 but naturally a box to box and he has always been good at both. One of the good thing about Rabiot is that he is tactically flexible, the issue that he has had in the past was that he wasn't adventurous enough.He can play as the 6, but he was better for Juve this season in a more Sabitzer type role. Whether you want to argue that makes him an 8 or a 10, have at it. I really don’t want to argue over 2 players who hopefully will just be rotational options and upgrades over what we currently have assuming signings at the 6 and 8
I see we’ll be shopping from the bargain bin again. Fecking Glazers fecked us so bad we’re going around begging for loans and free agents.
I really don't like him as a player. Excels at nothing, is also on the slow side. Also 1st decent season he's had in Seria A and just when his contract is up. I'm sure it's coincidence.
Imo we'd be adding another piece of deadwood on a huge salary, albeit signed on a free.
Imo we'd be adding another piece of deadwood on a huge salary, albeit signed on a free.
Pretty much this, he would be a good addition
I don’t disagree with your assessment JP. Is he of the required caliber for United? Of course. If we’re looking at him as both a Case understudy and Fred replacement, then sign him up. I just think because we’re keeping Fred + our reported targets, I’d rather we raise the technical floor and give another option for progression both via carrying and passing, because as a squad we’re awful at that. Dani does that at a decent enough level, especially on a free.
Isn't his mum a nobhead?
No thanks.
This, I have no idea what he does, even less when I watch him.
This makes me think the opposite to be honest. We clearly don't have a big budget, so we're being frugal.
I don't see how we do deals like this and then go and spend 80m + massive wages on Kane.
Because you have priorities, someone like Rabiot allow you to put a larger portion of your budget on Kane instead of having to spread it more evenly.
Yeah exactly
Yeah we need a Rabiot type and playmaker
As as we're able to bring in a proper 9 and 8, and move McTominay out, Rabiot would be a decent addition to the squad to provide cover for Casemiro.
Ye she screwed us last time and I think that was the reason we signed Casemiro
Surely you’d of thought Casemiro would have been number 1 choice.Think it's more about prioritising which positions we spend big on. We need to upgrade 4 or 5 positions but FFP prevents us from getting expensive additions in each position. I'd rather we got a free transfer as our backup CM than see us go another window with a stopgap CF on the cheap. I'm desperate to see us sign a quality modern GK as well. Hopefully we can get a Diogo Costa and a world class CF, but that won't happen if we spend big on a backup CM.
Rabiot is a brilliant player, a lot of fans here will be shocked if he does join.
Thank you for speaking some sense
Too many are judging him what happened with this mum and those wage demands last summer
Seems like a no brainer deal to me. Sabitzer, McTominay and van de Beek all to leave so we need numbers in midfield. We're on tight budget as well.
If you want him you will have to take out a contract on his mum. Otherwise, ain‘t happening.
Don't particularly see how they are related, bar one actually helping to facilitate the other.
I mean we did a deal like this (i.e. Eriksen) last summer and still went on to spend 200m-odd elsewhere in the team.
It's actually a no brainer if you think about it. Walks into and improves our starting 11 and allows us to have an option like Eriksen coming off the bench, would be a very good signing. Probably end up as good a signing as Eriksen if not better.
Glad you know all of the inner workings of United. Said this with your chest! Who else are we getting in?
arent there just insane amounts of wages coming off the books for players that have been just completely MIA/unavailable/worthless for us? People like jones, bailly, tuanzebe, williams etc who literally have contributed nothing? Feel like in the transfer window thread people can list like 8-10 players easy that literally nobody would notice are gone.
Thats a relief in case we are actively trying to sign him. Last thing we need players who not 100 % committed.
I'd be happy if we brought this lad in along with maybe Lavia and a top midfielder. We could fund Lavia by selling McT and DvB so transfer hit is purely on the main signing. It would significantly strengthen and provide much more depth. Has to be on sensible wages though.
Have to save something for later mate
not this guy again, i thought there was a no more dickheads and knobs policy.
Forgot about that. That was definitely a fluff PR piece though.If we are going to improve next term we will need to be very creative in the market and with how we utilize promotions from within. Signing Rabiot and Kim would be a very good start in addition to selling players like Sancho, Maguire and others.
He may not be Frenkie or the sort of playmaker we desire but he would fit in perfectly as a box to box partner to Casemiro who will the right balance of technical ability and defensive solidity to help us avoid getting overrun in midfield or lose too many balls to loose passes in there like what is happening when we play Eriksen and Fred respectively.
We will still need to sign another midfielder under 25, preferebly a young DM to cover as learn from Casemiro. So getting Rabiot in, ensures that we come out of the summer having improved our midfield but at not too great a cost. That he is different from Eriksen means that we can use both in a single game or alternate them in a 'horses for courses' Fergiesque selection policy.
He may not be Frenkie or the sort of playmaker we desire but he would fit in perfectly as a box to box partner to Casemiro who will the right balance of technical ability and defensive solidity to help us avoid getting overrun in midfield or lose too many balls to loose passes in there like what is happening when we play Eriksen and Fred respectively.
We will still need to sign another midfielder under 25, preferebly a young DM to cover as learn from Casemiro. So getting Rabiot in, ensures that we come out of the summer having improved our midfield but at not too great a cost. That he is different from Eriksen means that we can use both in a single game or alternate them in a 'horses for courses' Fergiesque selection policy.
He's a knobhead. Gets in on a technicality.
Yeah that £250m we spent last summer must have fell off the trees.
We can have a go at the Glazers for lots of things but giving money to the manager has never been an issue. What we've done with that money has been the real issue.
Every summer we have to make the same points. People seem to think that United can just go and spend 400m every summer.
Ironically if the money spent had lead to trophies & success, I personally don’t think the fanbase would want the Glazers out as much as they currently do and would somewhat accept everything they else
I do get that, but I feel like if we're actually bothered about cash that much, paying 80m+ for Kane will just leave us in a similar position in the near future.
I agree, but then we went and spent that on players for the long term. To do that again, we'd have to sell well this time, which seems unlikely.
Quite true. With only a few exceptions such as Bruno, Martinez and Casemiro, since Ferguson left we've either chosen poorly or spent way too much. The rolling debacle began with Fellaini, who was never United quality to begin with. Then Mata, a tidy footballer but never quite regular starting material. Then Martial, who in his 8 seasons with United has had at most 2 or maybe 3 matches when his performance could be described as outstanding. Fast forward to Antony, who we spent a vast fortune on but really hasn't gotten off the blocks yet
A signing like Rabiot, Rudiger or I don't know who else isn't a sign of being bothered about money, it's an opportunity to improve your team for less than you would with a similar player that is under contract. In fact you are not going to find many players that are at his level and will cost you less than 60m, the players under that are gambles for the most part.
Now I'm not a fan of Kane's price tag if we intend to not address depth issues in other positions but someone like Rabiot and someone like Ndicka makes Kane price tag forgettable because you get a world class player while addressing your depth with good player. The thing that would be senseless is to sign Kane for 80m for then turnaround and target Paredes or Ceballos because they are shit.
A lot of that is down to them too though, they never took the time to implement any real structure to the club, just let accountants and bankers run the club with no football knowledge. They could’ve saved themselves a lot of hassle had thru done that and who knows maybe we’d have a few more titles and champions leagues since Fergie retired.
Yeah, because we tend to miss far more than we hit, the next time we do have the money to spend — half of the time it’s to try and remedy the already expensive signings we’ve just recently made!
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