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Worrying that we are getting linked to pointless players such as Mount. No way this can be true.
 

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One of those players who I’ve never seen have a good game.

I’m sure he has them, but not when I’m watching.

Not the right profile either. Hard pass.
 

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I think we can all agree that the player who was Chelsea's player of the year twice in a row and who banged in 11 league goals last year isn't actually crap, right?

Wait...
Yeah...... He is still shit.
 

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If we use all ammo on the start, we'll be forced once again loaning weird players on deadline days. Rabiot for free as financially reasonable start of the summer is not looking so tragic at all.

Mount is definitely a player that could use a wiser manager to up his game, perhaps ETH could pull it off, but the risk is still there.
 

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Their description of his strengths is pretty much what I rate about him too.

In terms of what he doesn't do, there have always been question marks about his creativity from open play, with suggestions that a lot of his stats are inflated by set-piece delivery. But fundamentally sound technique, carrying ability, pressing ability and that tactical flexibility go a long way, probably in the eyes of his managers more so than fans who might be drawn to more obvious flair and open play creativity from their nominal attacking midfielders.

If we were intending to use him in the role we currently use Eriksen though, with another AM in Bruno providing most of that creativity from open play, then it's probably less of a concern. And quite a different set-up to the one most will have seem him in with England, where he's often paired with other not particularly creative midfielders.

It still doesn't make him what I would imagine the ideal profile of midfielder to be, mind.
 

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Their description of his strengths is pretty much what I rate about him too.

In terms of what he doesn't do, there have always been question marks about his creativity from open play, with suggestions that a lot of his stats are inflated by set-piece delivery. But fundamentally sound technique, carrying ability, pressing ability and that tactical flexibility go a long way, probably in the eyes of his managers more so than fans who might be drawn to more obvious flair and open play creativity from their nominal attacking midfielders.

If we were intending to use him in the role we currently use Eriksen though, with another AM in Bruno providing most of that creativity from open play, then it's probably less of a concern. And quite a different set-up to the one most will have seem him in with England, where he's often paired with other not particularly creative midfielders.

It still doesn't make him what I would imagine the ideal profile of midfielder to be, mind.
You confident that it wont be Bruno who takes the role we currently use Eriksen in? And Mount who plays 10 (like with Sabitzer)?
 

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If EtH wants him, buy him. Nothing wrong with having a super reliable ball carrying midfielder available. He’s the kind of player that Klopp built a Champions League and Premier League winning team around. No frills, economical with the ball, fit as a flea.

It’s all well and good McT and Fred having the game if their life once every ten matches, but they’re not good enough and are wildly inconsistent.

With all that said… has to be at a sensible price.
 

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I don't think I've seen a player so universally disliked by fans when he's linked to their club, not just Utd but Arsenal and Liverpool as well.
He either must have a fantastic agent, linking him with all these clubs, or there is stuff in his game that managers actually really rate. Can Tuchel, Lampard, ETH, Southgate, Arteta, Klopp and co all be wrong?!

How rated is he by the Chelsea boys?
 

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Surely Maddison is a better and cheaper option for the areas of the pitch he covers?

Other than work-rate (arguably), I'm not sure why anyone would opt for Mount over Maddison.
 

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I don't think I've seen a player so universally disliked by fans when he's linked to their club, not just Utd but Arsenal and Liverpool as well.
He either must have a fantastic agent, linking him with all these clubs, or there is stuff in his game that managers actually really rate. Can Tuchel, Lampard, ETH, Southgate, Arteta, Klopp and co all be wrong?!

How rated is he by the Chelsea boys?
Literally asked myself why I dislike him? No idea why.
 

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Prefer Maddison so if the fee and availability is anywhere near close Mount would not be my choice. However, I do think hes a good player and could provide a goal threat we havent really had from midfielders other than Fernandes
 

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He's not better than Bruno and not better than Eriksen. Even as a wide option he's not better than Sancho or Antony.

He's a good player but nothing special and won't be all that good a player in my opinion. I think a CM signing to upgrade Eriksen is important and if that guy is Mount I worry for us.

As a signing on a free or sub £30m I could understand it but we have bigger priorities than him. He'll demand a big fee and wages too.
 

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Who is 30 and only has a year left on his contract, 100 million is obscene even for Harry Kane
£100m for one of the worlds best strikers is a sensible price. The fact we should be able to leverage a better deal because Spurs need to sell is an added bonus. £55m for Mason Mount to try and work out whether he’s an 8 or 10 (or neither) would be utter madness.
 

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You confident that it wont be Bruno who takes the role we currently use Eriksen in? And Mount who plays 10 (like with Sabitzer)?
Not particularly. :lol: But my perception of both players is that Mount makes more sense in the deeper role.
 

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I can’t really figure out if I rate him or I just hate the thought of him moving to Liverpool. What I don’t understand is why Chelsea do not want to hold on to one of their own, but I guess that says a lot about Chelsea and their philosophy. Abraham is another example.
 

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Their description of his strengths is pretty much what I rate about him too.

In terms of what he doesn't do, there have always been question marks about his creativity from open play, with suggestions that a lot of his stats are inflated by set-piece delivery. But fundamentally sound technique, carrying ability, pressing ability and that tactical flexibility go a long way, probably in the eyes of his managers more so than fans who might be drawn to more obvious flair and open play creativity from their nominal attacking midfielders.

If we were intending to use him in the role we currently use Eriksen though, with another AM in Bruno providing most of that creativity from open play, then it's probably less of a concern. And quite a different set-up to the one most will have seem him in with England, where he's often paired with other not particularly creative midfielders.

It still doesn't make him what I would imagine the ideal profile of midfielder to be, mind.
He's pretty much Fred at the higher end of the pitch, but with more sound technique and reliability on the ball and has a competitive streak in him. A chaotic player who can have moments of cutting edge, but it's not enough quality or consistent output to be deemed a top player.

I say chaotic because when he was at his best under Tuchel, he roamed around and was able to go into different pockets, half spaces, etc. (tactical flexibilty), then was able to pick out passes or have a shot on target once possession was regained via quick transition.

But if the play is totally in front of him and he's tasked to unlock defensives, he'll struggle more than not. His ability going into space and utlizing space on/off the ball is good.
 

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Surely Maddison is a better and cheaper option for the areas of the pitch he covers?

Other than work-rate (arguably), I'm not sure why anyone would opt for Mount over Maddison.
Prefer Maddison so if the fee and availability is anywhere near close Mount would not be my choice. However, I do think hes a good player and could provide a goal threat we havent really had from midfielders other than Fernandes
The lack of public interest in Maddison, particularly given the possibility of Leicester being relegated, makes me think he’s already nailed on to Newcastle. Otherwise there’d surely be a bunch of clubs after him
 

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He's not better than Bruno and not better than Eriksen. Even as a wide option he's not better than Sancho or Antony.

He's a good player but nothing special and won't be all that good a player in my opinion. I think a CM signing to upgrade Eriksen is important and if that guy is Mount I worry for us.

As a signing on a free or sub £30m I could understand it but we have bigger priorities than him. He'll demand a big fee and wages too.
Not better than Sancho? Did I just read that right.
 

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I think he has had one season below expectation. This one. Before that he was, at the age of 23, a very good player. Player of the year at Vitesse and team of the year at Eredivise at 19. By the age of 22 he was integral to a team winning the CL. And at 23 he had 11 goals and 10 assist in the PL. Chelsea player of the season both seasons under Tuchel.
 

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If we are looking for a Bruno rotation than Maddison is the better and cheaper option (+ we have Eriksen). If we are looking for an 8 than there are beeter options out there.
 

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fecking terrible signing and I'll really start to question ETH's talent eval if we do it, because it seems the only players he really pushes for are those he has direct experience with/against.

Doesn't fit anywhere in our current team. His best year was playing as a hybrid inside forward for that 3/5ATB Tuchel system. He's a good carrier but not a good passer. We'd be getting essentially a square peg for a round hole, and paying a premium for it. If we are going to pay 60m or in that range why in the feck would we not be looking at Caicedo instead?
 

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This cannot be true, please god no.

Wouldn't take him even on free as he'll be asking for top wages and will likely take a spot in the squad as the 'guy who does his best in the opposition third and is pretty irrelevant everywhere else on the pitch amongst our other stockpile of midfielders that don't do midfield'.
 

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Don't understand our interest in Mount. He's a hardworking #10. We already have one of those.

Bruno can't play every game. Why can't Eriksen play at #10 when he needs a rest? We can buy another, younger, centre midfielder to partner Casemiro.
 

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Don't understand our interest in Mount. He's a hardworking #10. We already have one of those.

Bruno can't play every game. Why can't Eriksen play at #10 when he needs a rest? We can buy another, younger, centre midfielder to partner Casemiro.
That would seem the obvious thing to me.

Highly doubt this. Hopefully this is agent or Chelsea driven to get a higher price from Liverpool or Arsenal. Tbf he would be very good for Liverpool.
 

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Don't understand our interest in Mount. He's a hardworking #10. We already have one of those.

Bruno can't play every game. Why can't Eriksen play at #10 when he needs a rest? We can buy another, younger, centre midfielder to partner Casemiro.
Eriksen can't play that position because he can't run, which is the main issue we face when Bruno isn't in the lineup as we lose a valuable off ball runner both in and out of possession. But we do happen to have a star prospect coming back from tearing up the championship that would be perfect to backup Bruno when he's not playing on the right side.
 

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Bruno should never be put on the wing again except in emergency scenarios. He can't fecking dribble and you negate much of the running he does so well through the middle
He’s there to fizz balls in. Which looks a lot better when Kane is on the end of them.

It’s all about the system not the player. Getting players like Mount help evolve the tactics.

I’m not at fan of Mount but for the sake of being positive I can get how it works.
 

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He’s there to fizz balls in. Which looks a lot better when Kane is on the end of them.

It’s all about the system not the player. Getting players like Mount help evolve the tactics.

I’m not at fan of Mount but for the sake of being positive I can get how it works.
It doesn't look better at all, do you realize how stupid it is to use one of your forward spots on essentially a player that's a statue on the ball just so he can cross in from a singular area? The last thing we need to do is try to accommodate players that don't fit into the side by moving others into positions they are far worse in.
 

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Think he would be a decent squad signing if we are confident this season is a blip due to the Chelsea issues. Not at that price though.
 

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It doesn't look better at all, do you realize how stupid it is to use one of your forward spots on essentially a player that's a statue on the ball just so he can cross in from a singular area? The last thing we need to do is try to accommodate players that don't fit into the side by moving others into positions they are far worse in.
Stop being obtuse. It’s an option among many line ups we will be able to play along the season. It’s not the number 1 option neither will it be used often. You’re getting away from the point.
 
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